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#1    Mekorig

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 02:33 PM

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SAN JUAN, March 14 (Reuters) - Republican presidential hopeful Rick Santorum told Puerto Ricans on Wednesday they would have to make English their primary language if they want to pursue U.S. statehood, a statement at odds with the U.S. Constitution.

Santorum traveled to the U.S. territory to campaign ahead of the island's Republican primary election scheduled for Sunday, where he, Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich are vying for 20 delegates.

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 02:36 PM

I don't really get this statehood thing by the Puerto Ricans: It is evident that most of the 50 States don't want them.

Edit: But this statement will sure hurt Luis Fortuño's bit to get reelected in fall, after all he is the Republican Puerto Rican posterboy.

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 02:59 PM

Santorum is an idiotic religious zealot.  That he is as successful as he is illustrates just how morally and intellectually bankrupt the US political system is.


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Posted 16 March 2012 - 03:30 PM

I am trying to put this... PG... but I really really really hate that homophobic... bigoted... ignorant... braindead... b@st@rd...

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 04:28 PM

How is it in any way wrong to want them to speak English as a primary language? Are you sure PR even wants to be a state? I thought they preferred their current status.


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Posted 16 March 2012 - 06:17 PM

View PostParsip, on 16 March 2012 - 04:28 PM, said:

How is it in any way wrong to want them to speak English as a primary language? Are you sure PR even wants to be a state? I thought they preferred their current status.

The current guv, Luis Fortuņo(Rep), has announced that there will be a referendum on the status of the Island, campaigning for statehood, this fall. And he got some funny answers from Washington: If there is a simple majority for independence they would let PR go. If they want statehood they need a super majority (like 75% +). Neither of the two options are realistic besides about 30-40% for statehood there is 20-30% for independence, the rest (so far in 2 times the Reps have tried to change the status in the last 50 years they were the majority) does not want to change anything.

And wanting them to speak English is wrong in as far as many administrations have assured the Puerto Ricans that they can keep their culture, and in their culture you speak Spanish. Besides, it is up to each and every state to decide what its official languages are, not up to the Federal Government.

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 06:34 PM

In related news:

Santorum rowing back on Puerto Rico

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 07:44 PM

View PostParsip, on 16 March 2012 - 04:28 PM, said:

How is it in any way wrong to want them to speak English as a primary language? Are you sure PR even wants to be a state? I thought they preferred their current status.

Because the U.S. has no official language.

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 09:03 PM

View PostOdin11, on 16 March 2012 - 07:44 PM, said:

Because the U.S. has no official language.

You're right we don't.To the immigrants of the past, Americans spoke english and any history they learned in their home country may have mention the American Revolution and their fight for independence from the British Crown. My great grandparents on my dad 's side were german, but they learned english, and spoke several other languages as well.
Mom's side was hungarian and they learned english too.They took pride in being americans. To many, this country was a land where they could be free, and build a better life for their children.My dad's grandparents came because he was a younger son, and whatever lands or such the family held were more likely to go to the eldest son.It was a place of opportunity for him too.
Leaders of forgein countries come here and they use a translator when they meet the president if they can't speak english,so to me english  should be the official language.


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Posted 16 March 2012 - 09:15 PM

English is already America's language, just not officially. Anyone can see that America has always been an English nation, part of the Anglosphere, with English/British origins. Melting pot does not mean a multi-cultural mess with dozens of languages.


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Posted 17 March 2012 - 08:53 AM

Actually, American is the language spoken in America. There are linguistic cues, spellings and word meanings unique to America that differeniate the language beyond simple cultural ideoacyncracies.


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Posted 17 March 2012 - 01:09 PM

View PostWearer of Hats, on 17 March 2012 - 08:53 AM, said:

Actually, American is the language spoken in America. There are linguistic cues, spellings and word meanings unique to America that differeniate the language beyond simple cultural ideoacyncracies.

The nice differences.... mostly due to the fact that in other English spoken countries there is an insistence about the right usage and spelling. In the USA, once enough people spell a word wrong or it is used out of context the dictionary gets changed.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 02:06 PM

Last time I was in PR I attended an event at the Governor's mansion and got into a fairly in-depth conversation with some anti-statehood folks.

One of their big reasons for not being a state was that they would lose their Miss Universe/Miss World contestants - I **** you not.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 02:23 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 17 March 2012 - 01:09 PM, said:

The nice differences.... mostly due to the fact that in other English spoken countries there is an insistence about the right usage and spelling. In the USA, once enough people spell a word wrong or it is used out of context the dictionary gets changed.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 02:39 PM

View PostRafterman, on 17 March 2012 - 02:06 PM, said:

Last time I was in PR I attended an event at the Governor's mansion and got into a fairly in-depth conversation with some anti-statehood folks.

One of their big reasons for not being a state was that they would lose their Miss Universe/Miss World contestants - I **** you not.

The biggest reason is that being a state has absolutely no advantage over the present status. And if I were living on my farm there I would be absolutely in the don't rock the boat camp. In Puerto Rico (as US Citizen) you have all the advantages of being a US citizen but not several of the drawbacks (like Federal taxes comes to mind). Statehood is a game of politicians that aim at higher goals, like running for Prezz of the USA (in fact some are in the running for VP as they also have a residence in Florida...not mentioning any names...)

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