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Invasion of moles in Ireland in 896

Started by the L , Mar 17 2012 10:40 PM

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#1    the L

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 10:40 PM

Recently I read that in year 896 in Ireland was invasion of wierd moles that eat everything that got in their way.
Does anyone knows anything about it?

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 11:34 PM

Maybe this should be in ancient mysteries :blink:

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Posted 18 March 2012 - 01:59 AM

View PostMelo, on 17 March 2012 - 10:40 PM, said:

Recently I read that in year 896 in Ireland was invasion of wierd moles that eat everything that got in their way.
Does anyone knows anything about it?
Link?  Might be helpful to get a discussion going.

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Posted 18 March 2012 - 07:24 AM

Seems to be referenced once, in the Annals Cambriae, some sort of history book I'm assuming.

http://hefenfelth.wo...ermin-invasion/

Doesn't seem too impressive to me :/

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Posted 18 March 2012 - 10:37 AM

Pretty sure the Irish would have recognized mice and rats etc. this sounds like it was something else. maybe an unusual plague of insects swept over in a storm. The teeth may have not been teeth but instead mandables (spelling). I know when i first encountered a mole cricket in Australia I was not sure if it was a small mammal or an insect.
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Posted 18 March 2012 - 08:12 PM

I read in some book years ago...written by one english historian...

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Posted 18 March 2012 - 10:14 PM

How about voles? I live in Ireland, they're not so uncommon. Still, strange one. I've never heard of it before.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 01:13 AM

My looking around the internet shows me that supposedly there are no native Moles in Ireland. The closest thing is the pygmy shrew. I doubt a shrew would cause this damage. I'm going to have to go with either the voles, or the mice.
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Posted 03 April 2012 - 02:09 PM

View Postbulveye, on 18 March 2012 - 10:37 AM, said:

Pretty sure the Irish would have recognized mice and rats etc. this sounds like it was something else. maybe an unusual plague of insects swept over in a storm. The teeth may have not been teeth but instead mandables (spelling). I know when i first encountered a mole cricket in Australia I was not sure if it was a small mammal or an insect.
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 11:44 PM

View Postbulveye, on 18 March 2012 - 10:37 AM, said:

Pretty sure the Irish would have recognized mice and rats etc. this sounds like it was something else. maybe an unusual plague of insects swept over in a storm. The teeth may have not been teeth but instead mandables (spelling). I know when i first encountered a mole cricket in Australia I was not sure if it was a small mammal or an insect.
I always recognised mole crickets as insects since I first saw one as a child. Their size is a dead giveaway.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 11:54 AM

View PostMelo, on 17 March 2012 - 10:40 PM, said:

Recently I read that in year 896 in Ireland was invasion of wierd moles that eat everything that got in their way.
Does anyone knows anything about it?
I did history in secondary school[high school]. If something like this did happen it wouldve been mentioned in general school history books. As far as memory serves I dont recall anything at all and im quite informed on my countries history. Well at least the oppressed violent side of it anyway.

I could be wrong and we were invaded by weird mole creatures  :wacko:
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Posted 14 April 2012 - 11:57 AM

View PostMelo, on 18 March 2012 - 08:12 PM, said:

I read in some book years ago...written by one english historian...
An english historian writing about Irish history that happened in 896, was it you said?

ok.  :w00t:
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Posted 14 April 2012 - 05:59 PM

I myself live in Ireland and ive never heard anything of the sort
i would really like to find out more

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 09:59 PM

View Postrobbie360, on 14 April 2012 - 05:59 PM, said:

I myself live in Ireland and ive never heard anything of the sort
i would really like to find out more
I also am from Ireland and have never heard of this story.


It's an odd tale for sure.  Possibly the kind of legends and pseudohistory you might expect from medieval 'history' books where miracles attributed to saints the the like are included without question.

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 10:11 PM

As has been mentioned the invasion of moles is taken from the Annales of Cambriae written around the 10th century and it predominately focuses on events in Wales, although it does mention some events from the rest of the UK and elsewhere.


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"Bread failed in Ireland. Vermin like moles with two teeth fell from the air and ate everything up; they were driven out by fasting and prayer."

The way the annals are written and the fact they mostly focus on events in Wales means you could also read the above quote as 2 separate events, like so:

In 896

Bread failed in Ireland.

while

(In Wales) Vermin like moles with two teeth fell from the air and ate everything up; they were driven out by fasting and prayer.
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