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#1171    Gummug

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Posted 11 August 2012 - 11:12 PM

Thanks for your post and then. Personally, I wish the trial or the indictment could be thrown out due to extreme media bias...maybe that would teach the media a lesson, but I suppose that is just a pipe dream. The thing that really gets my goat is the thought of the innocent that have been hurt already by the media's dishonesty, and as you so aptly point out, those that may be hurt in the future. And to think the media is practically deaf, blind and dumb when it comes to the killings done by the "gangstas"...the media reminds me of those three monkeys, see no evil, speak no evil, hear no evil. :angry:

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Posted 11 August 2012 - 11:27 PM

Fact is, if Zimmerman is exonerated the man's going to have to go into hiding if not protective custody because his life will be in very real danger. Irrespective of what motivated the shooting, he shot a someone whose community has rallied behind with fanaticism. There have already been threats to his life. And if he does go to gaol, then he'll have to be in solitary as he'll be shanked there for sure otherwise.


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Posted 12 August 2012 - 02:12 AM

View PostWearer of Hats, on 11 August 2012 - 11:27 PM, said:

Fact is, if Zimmerman is exonerated the man's going to have to go into hiding if not protective custody because his life will be in very real danger. Irrespective of what motivated the shooting, he shot a someone whose community has rallied behind with fanaticism. There have already been threats to his life. And if he does go to gaol, then he'll have to be in solitary as he'll be shanked there for sure otherwise.
This is so true and I feel we have our wonderful media to thank for that.

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 02:51 AM

The most disturbing aspect of this situation has been the reminder of how close to the surface our racial divide has become in the US.  People on both sides seem poised and waiting for violence and the media seems to want to instigate it so they can have something exciting to cover.  As a country we seem to be focused on ourselves like some aberrant "reality program" and it's becoming self destructive, cannibalistic even.

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 01:27 PM

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The most disturbing aspect of this situation has been the reminder of how close to the surface our racial divide has become in the US.

this coming from a canadian's point of view, but, it seems your gov. is doing everything it can to nurture these divided feelings :/


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Posted 12 August 2012 - 01:45 PM

Good point Bavarian Raven, but it is not only racial fears and divisivness that is stoked by the government.  All sorts of prejudices and mistrust issues are strangely advanced by government policy.


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Posted 12 August 2012 - 06:12 PM

View PostBavarian Raven, on 12 August 2012 - 01:27 PM, said:

this coming from a canadian's point of view, but, it seems your gov. is doing everything it can to nurture these divided feelings :/
The government AND the media, imo. Good point Raven.

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 11:24 AM

I noticed this and figured I'd update the thread.  It seems there is still a lot of anger out there just waiting to be restoked when this goes to trial.  Hopefully the trial will happen in the Winter months.
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Posted 22 August 2012 - 03:19 PM

View Postand then, on 22 August 2012 - 11:24 AM, said:

I noticed this and figured I'd update the thread.  It seems there is still a lot of anger out there just waiting to be restoked when this goes to trial.  Hopefully the trial will happen in the Winter months.
http://usnews.nbcnew...n-shooting?lite

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 07:59 PM

Has anyone heard anything about the trial? The reason I ask is that they were talking about the shooting on TV today so I thought maybe the trial had begun.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 11:21 AM

I heard yesterday that the trial date was set for June.  And that was followed by the comment of how many months it had been since the shooting - implication I took from it was that the person writing the story thought it unfair that justice was being delayed.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 07:24 PM

'Kay, thanks And then. I was sitting in McDonald's and they were talking about it on the T.V. and I think they were saying that the shooting was justified, or something like that. I guess we'll have to wait 'til June and then I expect this thread will take off again. Thanks again. I wonder if that person who felt that justice was being delayed, would feel the same if Zimmerman is acquitted; because the more I learned about the circumstances, the more it seems to me that the shooting was justified, although admittedly I wasn't there.

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Posted 20 October 2012 - 08:48 AM

The modern thoughts on a "speedy trial" are a little different than they traditionally were, I think.  These days it seems it's better to let the dust (and heat) settle for awhile. If Z had been tried last Spring he might have been lynched in the press - almost was anyway - and hopefully cooler heads can look a little more fairly at the evidence.  I also read yesterday that the judge in the trial has allowed the defense access to Trayvon's social media and other online history to see if he had "violent" tendencies.  So next Spring/Summer Zimmerman will be tried and I suspect the media will use the occasion to make the teen a martyr and the "white" Hispanic the villain.  But maybe I'll be surprised and they'll cover it fairly.  Something like a Zimmerman acquittal on a murder 2 rap following an Obama loss might just be an occasion for some steam venting by the black community.  A great deal of the identity and pride of that community has been intertwined with this Obama presidency and they are rightfully proud of his achievement but I think they will as a group not take well his losing in November.

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Posted 20 October 2012 - 07:10 PM

What gets me a little bent out of shape is why the black community wants to defend those who by all appearances seem to be little more than thugs. Was it you that posted that Bill Cosby is not popular with the black community for saying that "the black community is the black community's own worst enemy"? (or words to that effect)

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Posted 20 October 2012 - 10:57 PM

View PostGummug, on 20 October 2012 - 07:10 PM, said:

What gets me a little bent out of shape is why the black community wants to defend those who by all appearances seem to be little more than thugs. Was it you that posted that Bill Cosby is not popular with the black community for saying that "the black community is the black community's own worst enemy"? (or words to that effect)
I don't recall, but he did say those things and I respect him for it.  He spoke truth and was subjected to ridicule - that says a LOT about those who he angered.

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