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[Stellar]

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what he said /\

the tanks are being moved ON US SOIL,to other places on US SOIL.
and its hundreds of them.
*why* do we need HUNDREDS of tanks,small easly movable ones, on city streets kind of tanks,on US soil ?
And did we miss the link that Oblamya just quietlu declared martial law here...
HELLO

Are you for real? Where do you expect the US to keep their tanks? All overseas? Of course the US has tanks on US soil. EVERY country has tanks on their own soil!

[rashore]

I was kind of thinking practice too. The number in it's entire sounds kind of alarming, but if you break it down to X amount of agents firing off X amount of rounds in weekly target practice, that can add up to quite a lot of ammo pretty quickly.

For example, one of the hunters around here that happens to live across the street. As turkey hunting has approached he does target practice at least three or four times a week, and can use around 75-100 rounds firing off his various guns each time. Now that the season is almost upon us I bet he goes through about 500 rounds a week because he's firing almost daily. And that's just one neighbor who has to buy his own ammo as he can afford it.

I would bet that a HS agent would be mandated to do target practice on a regular basis with the government footing the bill for the ammo. And the government can buy a crapload of ammo.
So for the sake of simple math... Say you have 1000 agents that have to do target practice once a week, using 50 rounds in practice each time. By then end of one year, that's 2,600,000 bullets. Now again, I just used simple math for the example, I don't know how many agents there really are, or how often they are supposed to practice or how much they are supposed to fire off for practice. It's just an example of how quickly target practice can add up.

And the trains with tanks vids? Those are from 2009. Where ever those tanks were going, they have been there for years now. It's probably more likely that they were being transported from one training center to another, or are being sent over rail to be shipped out, or heading to a depot to be retooled. And geez, how else are they supposed to transport a bunch of tanks, drive them? People would be really freaking out if they did that. And tanks are usually slower than trains and driving them over the road would likely be a logistics nightmare. Trucks? Seriously more expensive to have a truck per tank for transport than to ship them out on rails. And again a convoy like that would be a logistics nightmare.

[Corp]

missymoo999, on 19 March 2012 - 06:05 PM, said:

what he said /\

the tanks are being moved ON US SOIL,to other places on US SOIL.
and its hundreds of them.
*why* do we need HUNDREDS  of tanks,small easly movable ones, on city streets kind of tanks,on US soil ?
And did we miss the link that Oblamya just quietlu declared martial law here...
HELLO

If you know of a technology that can magically transport tanks from the factories, to bases, to storage units, etc you really should share that knowledge. Though if you don't want your tanks Canada would gladly take them off your hands.

And there's already a thread about Obama confirming a law that has been in the books for over sixty years. And martial law hasn't been declared in any way, shape, or form. Try not to read too much into the paranoid blogs.


On the HS I do admit my brain skipped over that part. Just went to wondering why Americans buying ammo was a big deal. Though are there any other sources on this? IE news agencies and not random blogs?

Edited by Corp, 19 March 2012 - 07:22 PM.

[Myles]

rashore, on 19 March 2012 - 06:35 PM, said:

I was kind of thinking practice too. The number in it's entire sounds kind of alarming, but if you break it down to X amount of agents firing off X amount of rounds in weekly target practice, that can add up to quite a lot of ammo pretty quickly.

For example, one of the hunters around here that happens to live across the street. As turkey hunting has approached he does target practice at least three or four times a week, and can use around 75-100 rounds firing off his various guns each time. Now that the season is almost upon us I bet he goes through about 500 rounds a week because he's firing almost daily. And that's just one neighbor who has to buy his own ammo as he can afford it.

I would bet that a HS agent would be mandated to do target practice on a regular basis with the government footing the bill for the ammo. And the government can buy a crapload of ammo.
So for the sake of simple math... Say you have 1000 agents that have to do target practice once a week, using 50 rounds in practice each time. By then end of one year, that's 2,600,000 bullets. Now again, I just used simple math for the example, I don't know how many agents there really are, or how often they are supposed to practice or how much they are supposed to fire off for practice. It's just an example of how quickly target practice can add up.

And the trains with tanks vids? Those are from 2009. Where ever those tanks were going, they have been there for years now. It's probably more likely that they were being transported from one training center to another, or are being sent over rail to be shipped out, or heading to a depot to be retooled. And geez, how else are they supposed to transport a bunch of tanks, drive them? People would be really freaking out if they did that. And tanks are usually slower than trains and driving them over the road would likely be a logistics nightmare. Trucks? Seriously more expensive to have a truck per tank for transport than to ship them out on rails. And again a convoy like that would be a logistics nightmare.

I forgot all about practice.   That solves this conspiracy.

[Princess Serenity]

Doesn't seem strange to me. Sure they needed that stuff to defend and protect Americans from its enemies.

[DoesntReallyLike]

He is slowly reducing our international military presence ( defunding military, troop withdrawals ) and building our domestic one ( more police officers via stimulus package, defense authorization, Fast & Furiou and other Justice Dept abuses of power ). Wake up, he is a communist working to create a police state. He idolizes himself after Hugo Chavez or Fidel Castro. You can believe it now or later when its too late  

Edited by Illuminerdi, 19 March 2012 - 08:20 PM.

[RightInTheStatisticals]

OverSword, on 19 March 2012 - 05:38 PM, said:

Are you guys crazy, ignorant, government propanda trolls or what? Why does the department of homeland security, a police force, need tanks?  450 million rounds of ammo?

This is ridiculous.  How much debt is our nation in, and they spend money on tanks for a police force?

WAKE UP!  THE GOVERNMENT IS OUT OF CONTROL!

[Corp]

Illuminerdi, on 19 March 2012 - 08:19 PM, said:

He is slowly reducing our international military presence ( defunding military, troop withdrawals ) and building our domestic one ( more police officers via stimulus package, defense authorization, Fast & Furiou and other Justice Dept abuses of power ). Wake up, he is a communist working to create a police state. He idolizes himself after Hugo Chavez or Fidel Castro. You can believe it now or later when its too late  

[_Only]

Illuminerdi, on 19 March 2012 - 08:19 PM, said:

He is slowly reducing our international military presence ( defunding military, troop withdrawals ) and building our domestic one ( more police officers via stimulus package, defense authorization, Fast & Furiou and other Justice Dept abuses of power ). Wake up, he is a communist working to create a police state. He idolizes himself after Hugo Chavez or Fidel Castro. You can believe it now or later when its too late  

Maybe I've become jaded with so much misinformation and clouded judgements I've come to see on the net, but I always get a bad taste in my mouth and see a red flag when someone tells me to "wake up".

[Thanato]

Ok. Lets get to the bottom of this.

Bullets. Ok Hundreds of Millions of Bullets. hmm... That is going to be stored in various storage facilities and they are going to be used for years. They arnt going to keep buying hundreds of millions of bullets. They are well as stated needed for practice and needed for the officers own firearms. Perhaps the millions of rounds currently are aged past the point of safe use and they want to replace their current stock.

Now for the Tanks. Umm do you want to destroy your nations road ways by having them travel on pavement. That train is transporting hundreds of tons of military hardware. Transporting via train is the easiest, safest, and most economical way to transport military vehicles accross any country... Now as for the destinations... Military Training Base, Returned to Unit from a Port, Shipping to a Port, heading back to the factory for refit and repair.

~Thanato

[Stellar]

The funny thing is, if the tanks were driven on the roads, the same people would be cryin' "MARTIAL LAW" and ask why the tanks werent put on trains instead.

[Corp]

Jerry Only, on 19 March 2012 - 10:52 PM, said:

Maybe I've become jaded with so much misinformation and clouded judgements I've come to see on the net, but I always get a bad taste in my mouth and see a red flag when someone tells me to "wake up".

Well maybe if you'd stop falling asleep in the middle of threads...


http://www.washingto...ry.html?hpid=z2

Yep Obama sure is destroying capitalism.

[Simbi Laveau]

Stellar, on 19 March 2012 - 06:29 PM, said:

Are you for real? Where do you expect the US to keep their tanks? All overseas? Of course the US has tanks on US soil. EVERY country has tanks on their own soil!

But why are we moving them to all parts of the country ?
And its not a couple,its hundreds of them.
Have you seen the videos people have been filming all over the USA in the last year or so?
About 200 tanks go by .
They film it because they're so bored waiting for the flashers to turn off and the train to go by,so they can cross the road.Theyre stuck for almost ten minutes.
They've been filmed all over the east coast,west coast,and mid west ,that I know of.
You would assume all our army based have more than enough tanks on army property now,and have no need for an extra 300 or so.

[Simbi Laveau]

Stellar, on 19 March 2012 - 11:43 PM, said:

The funny thing is, if the tanks were driven on the roads, the same people would be cryin' "MARTIAL LAW" and ask why the tanks werent put on trains instead.

For me,it really kind of doesn't matter how they are moved,and he DID declare martial law,3 days ago.

[Simbi Laveau]

Corp, on 19 March 2012 - 07:18 PM, said:

If you know of a technology that can magically transport tanks from the factories, to bases, to storage units, etc you really should share that knowledge. Though if you don't want your tanks Canada would gladly take them off your hands.

And there's already a thread about Obama confirming a law that has been in the books for over sixty years. And martial law hasn't been declared in any way, shape, or form. Try not to read too much into the paranoid blogs.


On the HS I do admit my brain skipped over that part. Just went to wondering why Americans buying ammo was a big deal. Though are there any other sources on this? IE news agencies and not random blogs?

Any time martial law would be declared,it would site an old law on the books for years,unless of course it's one of the ones from the constitution hes made redundant in the last 6 weeks.
http://nation.foxnew...ime-martial-law

http://www.newsmax.c...03/19/id/433104
How many links you want.
And this has nothing to do with Iran.It wasn't done for Afghanistan or iraq.
He tried to do this once before in 2009 during the alleged H1N1 pandemic as he termed it .
This is because of OWS.Its what NDAA is about,and why they want to control the internet.
http://www.freerepub...s/2342121/posts
http://www.godlikepr...ssage882136/pg1