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Aborted Babies Are Being Chopped Up And Sold To Researchers All Over America

Did you know that aborted babies are being chopped up and sold to medical researchers all over America?  

There is a federal law which is supposed to ban this practice, but it contains a gigantic loophole that abortion clinics are using to sell huge amounts of aborted baby parts to the scientific community.

The loophole in the federal law allows "reasonable payments associated with the transportation, implantation, processing, preservation, quality control, or storage of human fetal tissue." But there are no guidelines as to what those "reasonable payments" should be.

One company in the United States has plans to inject aborted baby brain cells into the eyes of patients to see if that will help improve their vision. The following is from a recent article on LifeNews.com:

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"Scott Fischbach, the director of Minnesota Citizens Concerned for Life uncovered the information showing a clinical trial approved by the Food and Drug Administration uses brain tissue from aborted unborn babies to treat macular degeneration. StemCells Inc. will inject fetal brain stem cells into the eyes of up to 16 patients to study the cells’ effect on vision."

As Fischbach correctly notes, a fetus must be at a certain stage of development before brain tissue can be harvested for this kind of research:

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"StemCells Inc. is not using embryonic stem cells. A five-day-old human being at the embryonic stage does not have a brain, but a fetus at 10 or 20 weeks of development with visible fingers, toes and ears has a functioning brain,” said Fischbach. “Developing human beings in the womb are treated simply as raw material for laboratory experimentation by StemCells Inc. and other companies seeking to monetize aborted unborn children.”

Once again, it is supposed to be against federal law to buy aborted baby parts from abortion clinics.  But this "problem" is avoided by taking advantage of the loophole that allows for "reasonable payments associated with the transportation, implantation, processing, preservation, quality control, or storage of human fetal tissue."

An article posted on LifeDynamics.com describes how this system works:

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1.) A baby parts "wholesaler" enters into a financial agreement with an abortion clinic in which the wholesaler pays a monthly "site fee" to the clinic. For this payment, the wholesaler is allowed to place a retrieval agent inside the clinic where he or she is given access to the corpses of children killed there and a workspace to harvest their parts. In most cases, this retrieval agent is an employee of the wholesaler. In other instances, the retrieval agent is a clinic employee who was trained by the wholesaler.

2.) The buyer - usually a researcher working for a medical school, pharmaceutical company, bio-tech company or government agency - supplies the wholesaler with a list of the baby parts wanted.

3.) When such orders are received by the wholesaler, they are faxed to the retrieval agent at the clinic who harvests the requested parts and ships them to the buyer via FedEx, Airborne or a similar common carrier.

4.) These parts are "donated" by the clinic to the wholesaler who turns around and "donates" them to the buyer. The buyer then "reimburses" the wholesaler for the cost of retrieving the parts.

In the end, nobody is technically "buying or selling" anything but they all get what they want and a lot of money changes hands.

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Edited by Silvergun Superman, 22 March 2012 - 08:59 PM.

[Thanato]

Well considering that it is a very Biased website, I doubt the fact checking and well truthfullness.

~Thanato

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Thanato, on 22 March 2012 - 08:58 PM, said:

Well considering that it is a very Biased website, I doubt the fact checking and well truthfullness.

~Thanato

It doesn't take much to verify whether it is true or not. If need be I will look into finding other sites confirming this information.

If true do you have any thoughts on the issue, or did you simply care to make the comment above as a means of telling yourself these practices aren't being done?

ETA: I linked to the source I did because it is the first site I came across with this information that doesn't have graphic pictures of aborted babies shown as part of the article.

You can Google search "Aborted Babies Brain Tissue" or "Aborted Babies Sold" to find other sources carrying the same story if you wish. I warn you though that you may see images you do not care to see.

Edited by Silvergun Superman, 22 March 2012 - 09:25 PM.

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IF this is accurate then as a culture we are nearly finished and yes that is a religious conviction.  For the record I would rather be blind, paralyzed or terminally ill than to use a product of such research.  It would be much worse a decision if the person those illnesses afflicted were my child but I pray my decision would still be the same.  This is an almost unspeakable tragedy for America and if the day comes that we ever see a mushroom cloud over one of our cities this is the first thing I'll think of because God IS just.

[Yamato]

If we're killing babies in the womb in this culturally-accepted genocide, what small potatoes to mull over how respectful we should treat the corpses.  Should we light some candles?   Should we say some prayers?  Should we start some cemetaries and funeral services for those who were killed in their fetal stage of development?   There is no respect for life when it's destroyed.  The only choice we respect in this "pro-choice" culture is death.  It's telling when the griping begins over how the dead are treated.  And the federal gobmint needs to legislate this issue too, why?  Because throwing life out like it's trash doesn't injure our moral sensibilities and medical research does.  Alrighty then!

[bouncer]

I was actually going to post this a day or so ago, but the link I stumbled across I deemed a little too graphic, but now a threads going and people know what to expect, then the following is the link I found, and hesitated about posting

*snip*

Edited by Saru, 23 March 2012 - 01:11 PM.
Removed link to graphic content

[Simbi Laveau]

I think animal bodies aree sold as well.All those kill shelters.They get money for all of it,and use it in gross ways. Is believe it

[Wickian]

As long as the woman who got the abortion consents to this, why not?  Stem cell research could always use raw materials.  It's no different someone donating their body to science or their organs after they die.

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Wickian, on 22 March 2012 - 09:31 PM, said:

As long as the woman who got the abortion consents to this, why not?  Stem cell research could always use raw materials.  It's no different someone donating their body to science or their organs after they die.

I feel... hmm, I was going to say "sorry," but that isn't really accurate. I guess "worry" would be a better word for it. I worry about people who share your point of view. It concerns and saddens me.

The selling of aborted babies body parts is nothing like someone donating their body to science after they die. People who do that give their consent. They live their full life and prior to death they let it be known they are an organ donor and / or will donate their body to science.

Aborted babies don't consent to anything that is done to their bodies. They don't even get the chance to live. Your viewpoint above is wrong on so many levels. If you can't understand how and why on your own though I'm not so sure anything I say will make you realize your flawed morals.

Edited by Silvergun Superman, 22 March 2012 - 09:56 PM.

[HerNibs]

Is there an article on this that IS NOT a biased website?

Nibs

[bouncer]

HerNibs, on 22 March 2012 - 09:46 PM, said:

Is there an article on this that IS NOT a biased website?

Nibs

you could always do a google for yourself!

[HerNibs]

bouncer, on 22 March 2012 - 09:50 PM, said:

you could always do a google for yourself!

I have.  All I come up with are either forums or anti-abortion/pro-life publications/sites.  I was looking for the actual act or whatever.

Nibs

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Yamato, on 22 March 2012 - 09:26 PM, said:

There is no respect for life when it's destroyed.  The only choice we respect in this "pro-choice" culture is death. It's telling when the griping begins over how the dead are treated. And the federal gobmint needs to legislate this issue too, why? Because throwing life out like it's trash doesn't injure our moral sensibilities and medical research does. Alrighty then!

There are still some of us who realize abortion on  (almost) any "level" is wrong (I say "almost" because in cases of rape and / or where the mothers life is at risk I realize the reasons for considering abortion aren't simply because someone doesn't want to be "burdened" with a child).

For those that don't have any issues with abortion though, then I suppose the process of selling aborted babies for scientific study shouldn't bother them either. It only makes their standpoint more disturbing to me however.

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HerNibs, on 22 March 2012 - 09:46 PM, said:

Is there an article on this that IS NOT a biased website?

Nibs

What would you consider "not a biased" website?

I mean, one could argue that sites that aren't reporting the story are biased themselves - hence the reason they won't run the story.

[HerNibs]

Silvergun Superman, on 22 March 2012 - 09:54 PM, said:

What would you consider "not a biased" website?

I mean, one could argue that sites that aren't reporting the story are biased themselves - hence the reason they won't run the story.

Well, the federal law and the loophole would help.  

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