Yes, I do. Absolutely none of that compares in a logical way however to this topic.
We do name are children, do we not?
Also, you may want to read the article in the opening post. These fetus' are not being aborted within a 5 day span. They aren't developed enough within 5 days to provide scientists with the "materials" they are looking for to conduct this type of research.
Nonetheless, life begins at conception. So whether it was after 5 days or 5 months really makes no difference. You are still killing the being within the womb.
If you don't believe life begins at conception, then perhaps you should read through this post, in which you will find that even prominent abortion advocates readily admit life begins at conception and that abortion takes away another's life.
Again, these abortions aren't being done after 5 days. And as I stated above, even if they were it is still an act of killing and the taking away of another's life.
We know what this "clump of cells" is going to develop into - a human being. To speak of it as if it is no different then a "flesh-plant" (or a cancer cell, or sliver of skin as others have equated it to) is ridiculous.
Doing so is to clearly devalue human life.
I've been quite calm. To be honest with you, while my views on this topic differ greatly with a number of people who have posted within this thread, I've been pleasantly surprised that the discussion has taken place without outrageous behavior.
Yes, eating meat/vegetables/using products tested on animals does relate, because clearly you have a stupid ideal on what life is. You have a problem testing on or using human tissue for science, but you have no problem with plant or animal life being used for your potential health and eating habits.
There is a difference between 5 days and 5 months. You're being stupid if you're sticking by that.
A 5 month old baby has grown nerves and a working heart and brain. A 5 day clump of cells has not.
Of course life begins at contraception. Sperm is living. I don't see you championing for banning mast(ur)bation! (MODs can we get this word unfiltered please? We're mostly adults here!)
You do not know the cells are going to develop in to a human being.
That foetus/(eventual) child may die while in side the womb.
The fact is, the article is not talking about human beings when they're developed.
You have some form of obsession that the cells will form in to a human. So? The moment they are potentially being used for experiment, they are not a human being. They never will be a human being. Their life experiences are not being cut short.
You have no value for life. If you did you would regard eating animals/plants are the same as eating humans in different stages of living. Plants = sperm meets the egg forms a hybrid. A foetus with no brain/nerves (a vegetative state). Meat = brain/heart/blood/feelings/experiences.
I've noticed posts you've made in this thread. You've come across quite passive-aggressive, not calm at all.
Edited by voidla, 26 March 2012 - 07:53 AM.