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Does telepathy conflict with science ?


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#16    glorybebe

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 07:00 PM

IMO, telepathy can be proven by science.  How many of us have had brushes with telepathy?  Has science not explained other instances that were supposedly bunk?  What about lunatics?  People who went crazy when the moon was full?  Now, scientists have come to the conclusion that the metals in our body and the gravity of the moon can affect some people more than others and alter their persona during a full moon.  I think that we used to use telepathy a lot more before technology took off.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 07:28 PM

*sorry double post*

Edited by glorybebe, 27 March 2012 - 07:47 PM.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 07:37 PM

Great article. Very relevant to cryptozoology as well with people experiencing the 'feeling of being watched' by spooky shadows in the woods etc.

The object, known by the locals as "Bicho Voador" (Flying Animal), or "Bicho Sugador" (Sucking Animal), has the shape of a rounded ship and attacks people in isolation.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 08:02 PM

View Postglorybebe, on 27 March 2012 - 07:00 PM, said:

IMO, telepathy can be proven by science.  How many of us have had brushes with telepathy?  Has science not explained other instances that were supposedly bunk?  What about lunatics?  People who went crazy when the moon was full?  Now, scientists have come to the conclusion that the metals in our body and the gravity of the moon can affect some people more than others and alter their persona during a full moon.  I think that we used to use telepathy a lot more before technology took off.

Nice post. I also think our technology, despite beeing awesome and useful, dumb us down at some level. Animals for instance seem to have a much more developed "sixth sense" that most of us do. And they certainly do not watch TV like we do and try to make their life so much easier with technology like we do.

Just a thought. Nothing too scientific there I concur.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 11:30 PM



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Posted 28 March 2012 - 05:28 PM

We are not advanced enough to even think about trying anything to do with it. Our technology has not reached its full potential yet. I heard a while ago there's some small part of our brain that could maybe get humans to have some sort of telepathic powers. But it seems far too out there at this point in time.


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Posted 28 March 2012 - 11:27 PM

Interesting article. Nice read.


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Posted 29 March 2012 - 09:17 PM

So ... "Does telepathy conflict with science?" Apparently not. Does telepathy conflict with materialistic ideology? Now that's another question! Posted Image


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Posted 29 March 2012 - 11:12 PM

Apart from the article in the OP (which is an opinion piece and devoid of any actual references) I can't find any mention of sceptics of PSI being converted to believers - and certainly not Richard Wiseman.

Other than that, it's a bit of a 'nothing' article.

Does the idea of telepathy conflict with Science? Probably not. But it should be investigated with same rigour and standards of 'proof' as any other scientific phenomenon.

And why would the existence of telepathy turn the laws of physics upside down? The universe and it's 'laws' have proven to be "not only stranger than we imagined, but stranger than we can imagine".   I'm no expert (not even close), but I'm aware that we don't have a comprehensive view of all the laws of physics that knit all of it together right down to the smallest sub-atomic particle - which, incidentally, is something else we're currently ignorant of, in all probability.

So, why wouldn't anyone accept the possibility of extra sensory experiences? Of course, accepting the possibility and believing it likely, are two very different things.


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Posted 30 March 2012 - 03:34 AM

View PostLandry, on 29 March 2012 - 09:17 PM, said:

So ... "Does telepathy conflict with science?" Apparently not. Does telepathy conflict with materialistic ideology? Now that's another question! Posted Image
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 05:35 AM

View PostJayMark, on 27 March 2012 - 08:02 PM, said:

Nice post. I also think our technology, despite beeing awesome and useful, dumb us down at some level. Animals for instance seem to have a much more developed "sixth sense" that most of us do. And they certainly do not watch TV like we do and try to make their life so much easier with technology like we do.

Just a thought. Nothing too scientific there I concur.


I remember getting that raising of the hiri on the back of my neck and then I smelled one of the worst smells I had ever smelled....there was a momma bear and her cubs upwind of us.  I don't think we have lost the ability, I think it has gone dormant.  Sooner or later IMO, there will be a scientific break through that will if not prove will at least increase the probability of telepathy.

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 04:04 PM

View PostRlyeh, on 30 March 2012 - 03:34 AM, said:

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Wikipedia: "To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the "straw man"), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position"

So do you feel that I've constructed a strawman? How so?
I re-stated the original question, "does telepathy conflict with science?" ... and my answer, "apparently not" ... based on the content of the article. Then I proposed another question, "does telepathy conflict with materialist ideology?"  ... Well doesn't it? In any case it's just a question.

Wikipedia: "the theory of materialism holds that the only thing that exists is matter or energy; that all things are composed of material and all phenomena (including consciousness) are the result of material interactions"
  
What original proposition was I attempting to create the illusion of having refuted?

Edited by Landry, 30 March 2012 - 04:49 PM.


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Posted 30 March 2012 - 05:51 PM

View PostLandry, on 30 March 2012 - 04:04 PM, said:

Wikipedia: "To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the "straw man"), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position"

So do you feel that I've constructed a strawman? How so?
I re-stated the original question, "does telepathy conflict with science?" ... and my answer, "apparently not" ... based on the content of the article. Then I proposed another question, "does telepathy conflict with materialist ideology?"  ... Well doesn't it? In any case it's just a question.

Wikipedia: "the theory of materialism holds that the only thing that exists is matter or energy; that all things are composed of material and all phenomena (including consciousness) are the result of material interactions"
  
What original proposition was I attempting to create the illusion of having refuted?
Oh... Landry I have been over this very subject with him at least half a dozen times. Don't even engage it. It is a road to nowhere. Or Mabey you will have better luck than I. Anything he dosnt agree with is a straw man. He loves to say it.

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 05:42 AM

View PostLandry, on 30 March 2012 - 04:04 PM, said:

  
What original proposition was I attempting to create the illusion of having refuted?
Someone like you doesn't need to act dumb. You know quite well the misconceptions you've portrayed in your blogs.

For example, you demand materialists to explain how materalism is correct after a lame attempt of pretending to refute it with quantum quackery (something you like too Seeker79? ).

Edited by Rlyeh, 31 March 2012 - 06:35 AM.





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