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[Arpee]

Scale of love

Love (Attraction, Affection)
Peace (Acceptance)
Hope (Trust)
Indifference (Boredom)
Fear (Concern, Worry, Doubt)
Sadness (Disappointment, Desperation, Jealousy)
Hate (Avoidance, Control, Anger)


Justification

Love attracts and hate repels, so it is the lowest level of love
Sadness is disappointment, but it doesn't repel like hate.
Fear is concern, which is a part of love.
Indifference is the lack of emotion, it is acceptance without emotion.
Hope is putting trust in love, it is the hope that things will be better.
Peace is acceptance, it is allowing things to be as they are.
Love is the highest level of love, it is self explanatory.


The quality of each emotion

The basis of love is source, which is the connectivity of all things.
The basis of peace is mind, which is the acceptance of personality.
The basis of hope is expression, which is communicating thought.
The basis of indifference is emotion, which arises from indifference.
The basis of fear is intuition, which is born from concern.
The basis of sadness is creativity, which is born from disappointment.
The basis of hate is power, which is the ability remove disliked things.


Chakras (if you believe)

Crown Chakra - Love (Source)
Third Eye Chakra - Mind
Throat Chakra - Expression
Heart Chakra - Emotion
Solar Plexus Chakra - Intuition
Sacral Chakra - Creativity
Base Chakra - Power



What do you think?

[Simbi Laveau]

Hmmmm,there is something similar in Chinese medical theory.
Every organ system had an emotion,a color,a season,a direction,and external manifestation on the body.


For example,when someone has terrible sadness,it affects the lungs (which usually are exerted during crying).
I'd have to map it all out and see if they match up.

Right from the get go,the colors are very different,and I am aware of at least one more chakra ? Possibly two,and they manifest above the head.
They have to do with metaphysical issues I believe.They connect you to the angelic realm ,especially if you are aware of them.
Im wondering what their color and emotions might be.
I do not know a lot about chakras.
I think of them as energy stores for the body,with the use of Qi.

Edited by missymoo999, 30 March 2012 - 03:49 PM.

[Arpee]

missymoo999, on 30 March 2012 - 03:47 PM, said:

Hmmmm,there is something similar in Chinese medical theory.
Every organ system had an emotion,a color,a season,a direction,and external manifestation on the body.

I didn't know this. Interesting. If you can find more information about the Chinese understanding of the chakras and emotions. Please tell me more.

[Simbi Laveau]

Arpee, on 30 March 2012 - 04:17 PM, said:

I didn't know this. Interesting. If you can find more information about the Chinese understanding of the chakras and emotions. Please tell me more.

well chinese medical theory doesnt use chakras.
In the years ive been interested in all of these things,i have made certain observations ,and tried to see if they matched.
There are 12 major meridians on the body,and i think they all correspond to a zodiac signs .
The chinese do use astrology to treat mind you,but ive never heard anyone say ,gallbladder is the Rabbit,Heart is the Tiger,but i think they has definative connections .

i know the chakras from a form of meditation that i do .Its from india .
It reminds me a lot of qi gong.
Id say somewhere way back,all of this was one school of thought,and they broke off into separate factions ,as people migrated to other parts of the world.
The medicine and theory they liked best,they keot with them .
So theories changed from place to place

i have a basic understanding of ayurvedic medicine,but it has far fewer padigrams within their theory,
Three basic body types etc.
Chinese medicine is far more complex.
the five elements within yin and yang ,and then deciding which of the units of the 12 meridians is unbalanced.

Actually ,there are 3 major meridian citcuits,so i guess it can be compared,but i dont see it clearly as definative matches.
Then there is Tibetan medicine,which has to do with the medicine wheel ....which i find facinating,but know very little about.

But lets look at chakras. They are areas of the body,that govern certain areas.Enegy collects in them.
So that is already similiar,but different, from chinese medicine.

let me find you an on line chart of organs and emotions etc.it must be on line somewhere,as i am not patient enough to write it all out .
hold on .

Edited by missymoo999, 30 March 2012 - 04:46 PM.

[Simbi Laveau]

http://taoism.about....ive_Element.htm

As you can see,its very comprehensive.

Edited by missymoo999, 30 March 2012 - 04:51 PM.

[Simbi Laveau]

You will note on that chart,the 5 element diagram is a pentagram.
Most great ancient oriental healers,were also magicians.
In japan,they were called the Onmiyodo.In china,taoist monks.
So they were versed in medicine,philosophy,magic,energy,astrology ,usually martial arts.

The pentagram was central to the medicine,as were the elements.
i absolutely believe,that the pentagram and four elements were stolen from  asian theory,by modern witches,and just adapted to suit them.
The pentagram is now this mystical witch thing,and earth air fire and water rule their rituals.They eliminated an element ,and changed metal to air.

ancient stuff from china.
i think so anyway .

Edited by missymoo999, 30 March 2012 - 05:02 PM.

[JayMark]

Deep inside of me I think there is some profound truth in the chackra thing.

When I feel joy or euphoria, I can really feel a "explosion of energy" right where the emotional heart chackra is.

Just like fear will generate it a little lower in the abdominal area.

And sexual desire will generate in in the sacred area.

I'm not talking about the organs so you know. Just the feeling of this "energy" stimulating those points and flowing through the body.

For me, it's more than a physiological reaction induced by electrochemical activity through the nervous system.

My thoughts.

Peace.

[Simbi Laveau]

JayMark, on 30 March 2012 - 05:07 PM, said:

Deep inside of me I think there is some profound truth in the chackra thing.

When I feel joy or euphoria, I can really feel a "explosion of energy" right where the emotional heart chackra is.

Just like fear will generate it a little lower in the abdominal area.

And sexual desire will generate in in the sacred area.

I'm not talking about the organs so you know. Just the feeling of this "energy" stimulating those points and flowing through the body.

For me, it's more than a physiological reaction induced by electrochemical activity through the nervous system.

My thoughts.

Peace.

I think there is absolutely something to it,but most people go by what is in their comfort zone.
So we all move our energy in different ways .
I feel it is the same concept though

[Beany]

My experience with energy in the root/base chakra had nothing to do with hate, but with sensuality & sexuality. It's like being mildly & continuously slightly aroused. At least that was my experience, and it was quite pleasant. I'd be happy to have a repeat experience!

[JayMark]

Beany, on 30 March 2012 - 06:48 PM, said:

My experience with energy in the root/base chakra had nothing to do with hate, but with sensuality & sexuality. It's like being mildly & continuously slightly aroused. At least that was my experience, and it was quite pleasant. I'd be happy to have a repeat experience!

I once participated in a very deep meditation session and the more I expanded my consciousness, the more it felt as if I was in a continuous "near orgasm" state although there was absolutely nothing sexual about it.

That made me wonder a lot.

I later read in a book something about the fact that in higher planes of consciousness ("over" ours) the more it will feel like this (in a non-sexual way). It also stated that when you get back into collective consciousness, you are immerged in masculine/feminine unity, just kind of like we do when we have an orgasm. Thus, in the "other plane" the need of finding a soul mate collapses and you can go on to "another quest" in spiritual evolution. Getting back to Source (highest plane) would then be something by far more intense that can't be immagined or described.

I find sens to it.

My thoughts.

Peace.

[bLu3 de 3n3rgy]

The root is also the seat of the good old kundalini. Depends on your beliefs of course, but the root and solar plexus go hand in hand i think. If one is blocked or dysfunctional it will mirror in the other. Once the heart chakra is awakened properly everything changes and to me it's almost as if the whole chakra system realigns with new path ways. Maybe this is what triggers the kundalini experience when these path ways open.

[bLu3 de 3n3rgy]

The solar plexus has a lot to do with 'self empowerment' as well. It's believed to be the seat of the soul, it's the core point of the body and if it is not functioning correctly it can throw off the root, which is also power based, but more primal and to do with security. This is where insecurities and fears will stem from. Those with unbalanced roots because of insecurities troubling them at the root level, ie anything to do with survival, need, fight or flight responses can be exaggerated by having an imbalanced (over active or under-active) root. If this is mirrored in the solar plexus, which is 2 densities up from the primal base level, it can manifest with feelings of disempowerment, mistrust and confusion, bad decision making, responding aggressively, operating in battle axe mode. It's an exaggeration in trying to compensate for the loss of power feeling. When all it could be is a imbalanced root problem.

[bLu3 de 3n3rgy]

In a sense each chakra is a containment of consciousness, and each chakra has a part to play in processing the emotional, mental, primal, spiritual, bodies, which all correlate massive amounts of info. The throat chakra for instance is at the level of expression, if the throat chakra is unbalanced then no matter how well the rest of the chakra system is functioning, the person is going have issues communicating themselves clearly. If this goes on for too long, guess what is going to happen ? the feelings of inadequacy and not being able to relate or be related too are going to creep in, resulting in a loss of confidence in speaking up for your self. That relates directly to the solar plexus (self empowerment) and root mirroring again.

Equally those who have an over active throat, speak too much with little substance or thought behind what they are saying. Dominate conversations, talk over people, fail to listen to others and what is going on. That can lead to a sense of alienation eventually too.

Edited by AnVil, 30 March 2012 - 08:42 PM.

[Beany]

AnVil, on 30 March 2012 - 08:29 PM, said:

The solar plexus has a lot to do with 'self empowerment' as well. It's believed to be the seat of the soul, it's the core point of the body and if it is not functioning correctly it can throw off the root, which is also power based, but more primal and to do with security. This is where insecurities and fears will stem from. Those with unbalanced roots because of insecurities troubling them at the root level, ie anything to do with survival, need, fight or flight responses can be exaggerated by having an imbalanced (over active or under-active) root. If this is mirrored in the solar plexus, which is 2 densities up from the primal base level, it can manifest with feelings of disempowerment, mistrust and confusion, bad decision making, responding aggressively, operating in battle axe mode. It's an exaggeration in trying to compensate for the loss of power feeling. When all it could be is a imbalanced root problem.

This makes sense to me, because when the whole kundalini thing was going on, I was also experiencing a lot of energy in my solar plexus. So you're saying that the two resonating at the same level can bring about balance? And you're not calling me a battle axe?

[Beany]

AnVil, on 30 March 2012 - 08:12 PM, said:

The root is also the seat of the good old kundalini. Depends on your beliefs of course, but the root and solar plexus go hand in hand i think. If one is blocked or dysfunctional it will mirror in the other. Once the heart chakra is awakened properly everything changes and to me it's almost as if the whole chakra system realigns with new path ways. Maybe this is what triggers the kundalini experience when these path ways open.

You know, this happened to me backwards, not an unusual occurrence in my life. First I had the experience, then I had to figure out what the heck it was and try to make sense of it. I had no belief system, no dogma, no religion, no spiritual traditions, no teachers, didn't meditate, had taken no classes. I kinda got dope-slapped by the universe, saying, HEY, PAY ATTENTION!