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Bush's CURVEBALL Says Iraqi WMDs a Lie


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#16    questionmark

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 02:47 PM

View PostDredimus, on 04 April 2012 - 01:09 AM, said:

  ^5 for not reading the information provided... for not knowing that the serin itself was still very volatile... for not knowing that that it was more than a "Barrel" of some liquid some where. But hey, don't take my word for it... keep living in your anti repub world and denying facts from people that were actually there and saw what they saw... You cant learn anything with such a closed mind... for people like you it has to be one way or the other at all times and I for one refuse to try to inform you or entertain your closed mindedness any more.

   Just as a parting note, I want to make it clear. I HATED the fact that we were in Iraq, I HATED watching my brethren die around me. I HATED the look of fear on everyone's face because they didn't know what was going to happen from one day to the next, soldiers and civilians alike....  I think we should have taken Saddam out in the early 90's when we had the chance. HOWEVER, I Have seen the life they live now... I have seen the joy on a child's face when he see's his home with real, stable electricity for the first time. The grown men and women bawling and praying and screaming for joy at the opportunity to vote for some one who wasn't a complete tyrant. But none of that matters... the horrible crap wasn't happening stateside, so look over it, right?

I don't live in an anti-Repub world, just wish they would get their act together so they are electable once more by non-fanatics. As far as Sarin, it remains volatile as long as it exists, in fact there are people getting poisoned by some that was sunk in the North Sea after WWI (no, not 2, 1) when they pull it up with their fishing nets.

According to your logic, that stuff sunk in the North Sea makes Germany a country with weapons of mass destruction. Well, a weapon is not a barrel of chemicals rotting away somewhere, that would be called an environmental hazard but certainly not a weapon. A weapon is something you can deploy to inflict bodily harm to other persons. And as shown, Saddam had none of those. And the old saga of the convoys going somewhere, right after my ex-boss presented it in at the UN it was demonstrated that the story was fabricated (which is why he quit as Secretary of State a little later). So lets keep the legends out of this and concentrate on the reality. And the reality is: Hans Blix was right. Which is why Dubya and Bambi were in such a hurry to start the war before the Blix final report (because it would not have mattered to wait 2 weeks for it, except that there would have been no justification for the war).


And many Iraqis are even more joyous now that they see that the ayatollahs take command of the country. I have to say: Thank you for serving (and I really mean that part) but all you did is strengthen the Shi’ite fanatics (and recover some receipts that would have made Rumsfeld look bad).

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 02:58 PM

They searched and searched and searched,and never found a single weapon.
So they claimed he was hiding it all.
We could find Osama,10 years later,but we couldn't find a single weapon.
Its all a huge joke,and the joke is on us.

Edited by Simbi Laveau, 04 April 2012 - 03:00 PM.

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 03:34 PM

View PostDredimus, on 03 April 2012 - 06:17 PM, said:

I really wish people would stop substituting "WMD" for "Nuke". Weapons of Mass Destruction were found in iraq, in large quantities.

Thank you! Are you Airborne as well? We were deployed in Bagdhad during the initial stages of Iraqi Freedom, I was in the 101st Airborne at the time.

I've said this many times here as well. You're going down a dead end I'm afraid my friend. The people only believe what is reported by the bias media and will not accept information from those who lived, bled and sacrificed over there and lived it!

Edited by ColoradoParanormal, 04 April 2012 - 03:40 PM.


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Posted 04 April 2012 - 04:59 PM

View PostDredimus, on 03 April 2012 - 06:17 PM, said:

I really wish people would stop substituting "WMD" for "Nuke". Weapons of Mass Destruction were found in iraq, in large quantities.

Indeed. They were useless, degraded tho, rendering them outside the category of WMDs. And guess who sold it to them? The USA. And thusly our government KNEW that those weapons did not pose a threat.

Someone made a statement about the nukes. That is what the Bush fAdministration wanted us to think, that Iraq had weapons that could harm us within fractions of hours. "Imminent" was the word that was used from the Bush fOefficials. They lied. They didn't stop lying to us.

Remember: "Perception lags reality" Ari.

Edited by regeneratia, 04 April 2012 - 05:00 PM.

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 05:01 PM

View PostSimbi Laveau, on 04 April 2012 - 02:58 PM, said:

They searched and searched and searched,and never found a single weapon.
So they claimed he was hiding it all.
We could find Osama,10 years later,but we couldn't find a single weapon.
Its all a huge joke,and the joke is on us.

Osama has be dead for at least a decade.
The USA government is messing with heads. I will not allow it.

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 05:15 PM

View Postregeneratia, on 04 April 2012 - 05:01 PM, said:

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The USA government is messing with heads. I will not allow it.
Hi regeneratia -- what will you not allow ... someone messing with your mind? Or something else? I'm not sure I understand your post here.


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Posted 04 April 2012 - 05:25 PM

View PostKarlis, on 04 April 2012 - 05:15 PM, said:

Hi regeneratia -- what will you not allow ... someone messing with your mind? Or something else? I'm not sure I understand your post here.

I won't allow perception control from the government. Will you?

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 05:51 PM

View PostDredimus, on 03 April 2012 - 08:30 PM, said:

Yes, Many degrading chemical weapons were found, mustard gas and serin being among the top. Warehouses (new warehouses) such as the one in Mosul in late 2003 were setup for major chemical/biological weapons manufacturing but were hit before they could be put to effective use.

   A National Ground Intel. Report documented all of this back in 2006 and articles were posted on defense.gov about the findings of over 500 munitions that were degraded yet viable. Most of the weaponry was supposed to have been destroyed after the UN Sanctions in the mid to late 90's but were instead hidden. Keep in mind that This Report is from 2006 and does not cover the later finds. I know as a soldier that even up until 2010 we were still making major finds. Things that I cannot talk about but bits and pieces were uncovered through wikileaks. Take This Article for example.




View PostColoradoParanormal, on 04 April 2012 - 03:34 PM, said:

Thank you! Are you Airborne as well? We were deployed in Bagdhad during the initial stages of Iraqi Freedom, I was in the 101st Airborne at the time.

I've said this many times here as well. You're going down a dead end I'm afraid my friend. The people only believe what is reported by the bias media and will not accept information from those who lived, bled and sacrificed over there and lived it!

I'll choose to believe what the two soldiers who were there say. The media and all the other know-it-alls here have no credence. BTW, thanks for serving fellas.

Edited by Is it for real, 04 April 2012 - 05:51 PM.

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 06:06 PM

View Postregeneratia, on 04 April 2012 - 05:25 PM, said:

I won't allow perception control from the government. Will you?
I'm not sure what perception control from the government is. Could you explain in more detail regards that?


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Posted 04 April 2012 - 09:02 PM

View PostColoradoParanormal, on 04 April 2012 - 03:34 PM, said:

Thank you! Are you Airborne as well? We were deployed in Bagdhad during the initial stages of Iraqi Freedom, I was in the 101st Airborne at the time.

I've said this many times here as well. You're going down a dead end I'm afraid my friend. The people only believe what is reported by the bias media and will not accept information from those who lived, bled and sacrificed over there and lived it!

27th Engineers, Sapper, so yes, Airborne, under the 82nd flag. As an "All American" I have respect for the 101st Screamin Chickens... as it was said by some great man some where "Thats the cleanest bunch of drunks I've ever seen" lol

Edited by Dredimus, 04 April 2012 - 09:04 PM.


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Posted 05 April 2012 - 02:04 AM

View PostIs it for real, on 04 April 2012 - 05:51 PM, said:

I'll choose to believe what the two soldiers who were there say. The media and all the other know-it-alls here have no credence. BTW, thanks for serving fellas.
Thank you! It really does mean a lot to hear that from people. More than I think anyone would know.

View PostDredimus, on 04 April 2012 - 09:02 PM, said:

27th Engineers, Sapper, so yes, Airborne, under the 82nd flag. As an "All American" I have respect for the 101st Screamin Chickens... as it was said by some great man some where "Thats the cleanest bunch of drunks I've ever seen" lol

lol! That's awesome. I actually just ran into a Zoomie on this board as well, he's a rather nice guy and level headed. Glad to see some of my brothers here finally. Thank you for your service brother.


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Posted 05 April 2012 - 01:02 PM

Nor was I duped by the rantings of Bush & Co.

They picked and choosed and found somebody who would tell lies to support their lies.  You lie, and I will swear to it.  Old as the hills.

And then, the Mission Was Accomplished--the american people bought the lies big time.   :ph34r:


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Posted 10 April 2012 - 02:54 AM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 05 April 2012 - 01:02 PM, said:

Nor was I duped by the rantings of Bush & Co.

They picked and choosed and found somebody who would tell lies to support their lies.  You lie, and I will swear to it.  Old as the hills.

And then, the Mission Was Accomplished--the american people bought the lies big time.   :ph34r:


You were too smart for them though, huh? :w00t:
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Posted 10 April 2012 - 04:50 AM

View PostDredimus, on 03 April 2012 - 08:30 PM, said:

Yes, Many degrading chemical weapons were found, mustard gas and serin being among the top. Warehouses (new warehouses) such as the one in Mosul in late 2003 were setup for major chemical/biological weapons manufacturing but were hit before they could be put to effective use.

   A National Ground Intel. Report documented all of this back in 2006 and articles were posted on defense.gov about the findings of over 500 munitions that were degraded yet viable. Most of the weaponry was supposed to have been destroyed after the UN Sanctions in the mid to late 90's but were instead hidden. Keep in mind that This Report is from 2006 and does not cover the later finds. I know as a soldier that even up until 2010 we were still making major finds. Things that I cannot talk about but bits and pieces were uncovered through wikileaks. Take This Article for example.

The evidence shows that Saddam wasn't a threat to anybody and the war was a disgraceful sham.  

If you have evidence that suggests otherwise, why keep it a secret?  Any Republican in his right mind even remotely interested in the results of future elections would be releasing the evidence hand over fist.  If a few hundred rusty shells was what we gained for several tens of thousands of casualties, the government has gone completely off its hinges and needs to have its policies reined in.

Edited by Yamato, 10 April 2012 - 04:51 AM.

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 01:00 PM

View Postand then, on 10 April 2012 - 02:54 AM, said:

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You were too smart for them though, huh? :w00t:
Whatever.......


I don't know if 'smart' is the right word.

'Perceptive' may be a better choice, based upon knowledge and experience.

Minimal military experience by way of ROTC told me that in 2003 Iraq was no threat to this man's Army.  Their army was annhilated in the First Gulf War, they had no air force and no navy.  For 12 years they had been crushed by UN sanctions and No Fly zones.

But in 2002 they are a threat to our national security?  Puh-leeze.





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