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Posted 03 April 2012 - 11:54 AM

www.livescience.com said:

Ash and charred bone, the earliest known evidence of controlled use of fire, reveal that human ancestors may have used fire a million years ago, a discovery that researchers say will shed light on this major turning point in human evolution.

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Posted 03 April 2012 - 08:05 PM

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You could call it the original baptism of fire: the moment hominins first began controlling flames. There is now evidence that moment came at least 1 million years ago, a finding that will reignite the debate over whether human anatomy was changed forever by cooking.

Fire is a tricky thing to pin down in the archaeological record.According to Michael Chazan at the University of Toronto, Canada, the oldest obvious hearths are just 400,000 years old – though the remains of burned wood, stones and food at an Israeli site suggests that hominins were using fire 790,000 years ago.

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 10:41 AM

Did they find marshmallows, hershey bars and graham crackers?
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 12:23 PM

It really peaves me off that mankind is looked at as intellectually inferior etc in what is perceived of as 'cave man' era from what is called,by science,'pre history'. Doesn't anyone realise that we are all descendants of the early humans & that early humans were intellectually & physically superior,&,speaking simplistically,when you make a copy of a copy in the gene pool etc,like in human history,doh,the quality degenerates.We have all been lead down the garden path.We are mere shadows of what our ancestors were.Man knew fire,chemicals,astronomy,agronomy,science,music etc etc This story is utter rubbish.Even Darwin has been disproved with his theories of evolution.Apes are apes & humans are humans as dogs are dogs & birds have many varieties,but they are still bloody birds.We are not linked to apes!!!Why do we follow all the fairy stories of what these idiots dictate to us???Well.doh!! LOL He knew bloody well how to make fire!!

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 12:24 PM

It really peaves me off that mankind is looked at as intellectually inferior etc in what is perceived of as 'cave man' era from what is called,by science,'pre history'. Doesn't anyone realise that we are all descendants of the early humans & that early humans were intellectually & physically superior,&,speaking simplistically,when you make a copy of a copy in the gene pool etc,like in human history,doh,the quality degenerates.We have all been lead down the garden path.We are mere shadows of what our ancestors were.Man knew fire,chemicals,astronomy,agronomy,science,music etc etc This story is utter rubbish.Even Darwin has been disproved with his theories of evolution.Apes are apes & humans are humans as dogs are dogs & birds have many varieties,but they are still bloody birds.We are not linked to apes!!!Why do we follow all the fairy stories of what these idiots dictate to us???Well.doh!! LOL He knew bloody well how to make fire!!

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 12:26 PM

PS Sorry about the double-up.I pressed enter twice.Oh,& I am not an ape LOL

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 02:23 PM

View PostGirlfromOz, on 04 April 2012 - 12:24 PM, said:

It really peaves me off that mankind is looked at as intellectually inferior etc in what is perceived of as 'cave man' era from what is called,by science,'pre history'. Doesn't anyone realise that we are all descendants of the early humans & that early humans were intellectually & physically superior,&,speaking simplistically,when you make a copy of a copy in the gene pool etc,like in human history,doh,the quality degenerates.We have all been lead down the garden path.We are mere shadows of what our ancestors were.Man knew fire,chemicals,astronomy,agronomy,science,music etc etc This story is utter rubbish.Even Darwin has been disproved with his theories of evolution.Apes are apes & humans are humans as dogs are dogs & birds have many varieties,but they are still bloody birds.We are not linked to apes!!!Why do we follow all the fairy stories of what these idiots dictate to us???Well.doh!! LOL He knew bloody well how to make fire!!
convetional history states we were making cave paintings as cave men 10 thousands yrs ago, when they are found structures up to 32 thousand bc -.-, it makes no sense, if they push back the times, many things will change in our understanding of our selves, and identity and i think that is wthey refrain from speaking the truth about us.
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 05:25 PM

@GirlFromOz, according to your genetic code, you are indeed an ape.  A great ape to be precise, and that is nothing to be ashamed of.

Seriously, I know some silverbacked gorillas I'd rather hang with than humans who would deny their own genetic heritage...

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 05:51 PM

View Postseller2006, on 04 April 2012 - 02:23 PM, said:

convetional history states we were making cave paintings as cave men 10 thousands yrs ago, when they are found structures up to 32 thousand bc -.-, it makes no sense, if they push back the times, many things will change in our understanding of our selves, and identity and i think that is wthey refrain from speaking the truth about us.
Did you mean 23K years ago (link)? That is some wall in a cave humans built to keep out the cold. I can't find anything ealier than that that has been confirmed.

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It really peaves me off that mankind is looked at as intellectually inferior etc in what is perceived of as 'cave man' era from what is called,by science,'pre history'.
Who has ever claimed mankind is inferior, even back then? Our brains have may have developed a a tiny bit since then, but the general package was there around the 'cave man' era.

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Even Darwin has been disproved with his theories of evolution.
The theory of evolution has been disproven? Really .. when did this happen?

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 07:47 PM

It didn't happen. Sounds more like an opinion than fact.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 12:11 AM

Very cool. It is easy to hypothisize then that Modern Humans, Homo Sapiens Sapiens, evolved from earlier forms and that fire was always present during that time 200,000 years ago.
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 08:47 AM

Dear BrandofAmber.Wouldn't you think that instead of saying that humans were an offshoot of apes,that it was the other way around??!The theory is that apes were an offshoot of humans!!Maybe close but not the full deal.Let's all get the story right! OK?!

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 07:16 PM

View PostGirlfromOz, on 05 April 2012 - 08:47 AM, said:

Dear BrandofAmber.Wouldn't you think that instead of saying that humans were an offshoot of apes,that it was the other way around??!The theory is that apes were an offshoot of humans!!Maybe close but not the full deal.Let's all get the story right! OK?!

Well, technically Humans and apes are both offshoots of another common ancestor species. To say one is an offshoot of the other is incorrect.

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 05:23 PM

View PostRightInTheStatisticals, on 05 April 2012 - 07:16 PM, said:

Well, technically Humans and apes are both offshoots of another common ancestor species. To say one is an offshoot of the other is incorrect.
Yup it's like saying a turkey came from a chicken they share a common ancestor one off chute becoming a chicken and one becoming a turkey, same for humans and apes.
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Posted 08 April 2012 - 06:29 PM

It's comforting to hear that we've  always had fire..  some ideas are persistent!    Home is where the Hearth is.
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