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#46    Night Walker

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 12:22 PM

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We have no Bigfoot in U.K that I've heard of...
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Posted 06 April 2012 - 01:59 PM

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You realize that this is the INTERNET right?  It's about as secret as a bullhorn.  You share it with us and ou just shared it with every reason who is capable of running a google search.


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Posted 06 April 2012 - 02:51 PM

View PostClobhair-cean, on 05 April 2012 - 06:19 AM, said:

The problem with this is that the government has proven time and time again that it's awfully bad at covering things up. Watergate, Lewinsky, the death of Pat Tillman, Iran Contra, etc, these are just the ones off the top of my head. They could never hide the fact that an alien vehicle crashed.
I disagree only because the soldiers the government uses to retrieve crashed UFOs are a special branch of the military, sworn to secrecy, able to get to the crash site quickly because they are tracking every flying saucer that comes into Earth's orbit. When a crash occurs, they get there in just a very few hours, they have even gone into Mexico when a small plane crashed into a UFO and both vehicles crashed to the ground. The first people om site were killed by gasses, then a squad of specially trained soldiers from Fort Bliss Texas arrived and retrieved *everything** and left with it.If every branch of the government worked as well as this unit does, the United States would be a better place.


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Posted 06 April 2012 - 03:13 PM

View Postspud the mackem, on 05 April 2012 - 07:42 PM, said:

Good Post friend,A lot of the whole world would panic....but why are nearly all Aliens (except E.T & Paul) shown as the baddies in movies ?.If these guys are real and one day decide to confront us,I dont think that they would be greeted as friends,because humans cant accept the fact that there just might be someone/thing better than us.I would like to see it happen but on a friendly basis because if we aren't, then we are in deep "Poo"..Anyone/thing having deep space travel,dont fight with bow and arrows,or guns..cheers
The things they do to humans they capture are not nice at all. IMHO, "They" are not our friends. From everything I've read and studied they are occupying our oceans when they are not flying around watching us or whatever they do when they leave their bases.
There are way too many sightings from law enforcement and army members out on maneuvers, not to forget the many pictures, nor events such as what happened in Arizona when UFOs just took a tour of the state one night, Yikes Twice!! It was like a "let's go look at the silly humans who think they occupy the earth, ha ha" moment. I've seen them. Scared me half to death, and my sister fainted. I just cried I was so frightened. I had not believed they existed until I saw one close up. Personally, I wish that "they" would just go away and not come back, ever!


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Posted 06 April 2012 - 03:22 PM

View PostNight Walker, on 05 April 2012 - 11:07 PM, said:

Just as all that glitters is not gold, all that we experience is not empirical. That does not make it paranormal or supernatural but it is a very human-thing to believe that it is. Such magical thought processes provide a constant theme all throughout history and perhaps it would be more of a concern if folk were not making such sensational claims. The real “monsters” are inside us (ALL of us) and that can be very difficult thing to face. That is why the evidence is either misidentified or faked – it is both easier and often more socially acceptable to believe the “monsters” are all out there.

I predict that this latest Bigfoot DNA claim will come to naught. Excuses will be made, some will believe, others will become sceptical. Yet the stories and the merry dance will go on…
In this situation, Night Walker, I must disagree.I think that scientific proof along with clear video evidence will go a long ways towards helping the general public to believe. I'm a nurse, married to a man of science who has said that he would only believe in BF with scientific evidence such as DNA and clear films of said creatures, so we shall see if that happens what he will then do regarding believing in these animals. I saw one, a BF, I know that they exist, and I believe that it is possible to have enough evidence to prove their existence even without a body for most people
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Posted 06 April 2012 - 05:04 PM

View PostNight Walker, on 06 April 2012 - 03:00 AM, said:

Sweetsusiq (August 2, 2011 at 7:19 AM):

I don't believe that "The Shooter" shot anything.
I believe this to be a hoax, a joke perpetrated on BF believers.
"The Shooter" has certainly managed to garner a lot of attention, which is what he desires in my humble opinion..


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Posted 06 April 2012 - 05:04 PM

View PostSusiq2, on 06 April 2012 - 02:51 PM, said:

I disagree only because the soldiers the government uses to retrieve crashed UFOs are a special branch of the military, sworn to secrecy, able to get to the crash site quickly because they are tracking every flying saucer that comes into Earth's orbit. When a crash occurs, they get there in just a very few hours, they have even gone into Mexico when a small plane crashed into a UFO and both vehicles crashed to the ground. The first people om site were killed by gasses, then a squad of specially trained soldiers from Fort Bliss Texas arrived and retrieved *everything** and left with it.If every branch of the government worked as well as this unit does, the United States would be a better place.
Ahhhh - so you are a Footer and a government conspiracy theorist too?  That seems about right.  Did uncle sam make you sign an NDA about the aliens too - or do you have actual evidence of those you can share with us.  Oops wrong forum.  Nevermind.  UFOlogy is one door down and the Conspiracy Theory wing of the Mental Hospital - I mean website is even further down than that.


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Posted 06 April 2012 - 05:20 PM

Sweetsusiq (August 2, 2011 at 7:19 AM):

I don't believe that "The Shooter" shot anything.
I believe this to be a hoax, a joke perpetrated on BF believers.
"The Shooter" has certainly managed to garner a lot of attention, which is what he desires in my humble opinion..

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View PostSakari, on 06 April 2012 - 05:04 PM, said:

good call :)

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At that time I believed 100% that the entire story was a fabrication. Sadly I came to realize that it was the truth. The DNA flesh sample the shooter turned in to Dr. Melba Ketchum is now actually part of the study.
The shooter is now giving interviews and causing a lot of people to really dislike his conduct that day because of what he did. There was absolutely no reason to kill the mother nor the baby.


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Posted 06 April 2012 - 05:23 PM

I want to talk about UFOs and Nessie! A TV program I watched and happen to agree with claimed that Nessie is of a species thought to be extinct. That I sincerely believe to be true.
I did not come here to discuss just something about BF because all I know is that I saw a BF once and was totally frightened of him. I believe  BF is more likely to be proven than UFOs or Nessie unless a UFO crashes on the White House lawn, or a living Nessie eats some people while being filmed.IMHO.

Edited by Susiq2, 06 April 2012 - 05:37 PM.


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Posted 06 April 2012 - 05:41 PM

View PostSusiq2, on 06 April 2012 - 05:20 PM, said:

Sweetsusiq (August 2, 2011 at 7:19 AM):

I don't believe that "The Shooter" shot anything.
I believe this to be a hoax, a joke perpetrated on BF believers.
"The Shooter" has certainly managed to garner a lot of attention, which is what he desires in my humble opinion..

http://robertlindsay...-bigfoot-world/
good call  




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At that time I believed 100% that the entire story was a fabrication. Sadly I came to realize that it was the truth. The DNA flesh sample the shooter turned in to Dr. Melba Ketchum is now actually part of the study.
The shooter is now giving interviews and causing a lot of people to really dislike his conduct that day because of what he did. There was absolutely no reason to kill the mother nor the baby.




That story is a bunch of lies.....I lived , grew up, 43 years in Sparks Nevada......Fished and jetski'd at Frenchman Reservoir.......Hunted/fished/back packed/camped and spent many days and nights at Gold Lake and the surrounding area.....I know people whom live in Downieville, and have their entire lives.....I even talked with someone whom knows the person claiming this crap.......So, since the shooting story is a lie, what does that make the good old doctor?

If you know anything about the story, and have actually looked into it, than the bolded above should stick out like a sore thumb to you.....If not, you don't know 1/10th of it, just what you read on the internet.






Nessie :

In      2007, it was estimated that Nessie tourism brought in an estimated £6      million ($12.2 million) to the Highlands. Some are blaming skepticism and the fact that      there have been only  two sightings in the first nine months of 2007.      There were only      three sightings in 2006. A decade ago, ten to twenty sightings a year was      common.* The decline in      sightings should concern the true believers, given the ubiquity of digital      cameras, camera-phones, and the presence of webcams at various places around      the lake.



Adrian Shine, head of the       Loch     Ness Project, believes that one reason for the decline in sightings is      that people are more skeptical about what they see. “I think we live in a      more pragmatic age, and that people are becoming more aware of the sort of      illusions that can occur on water,” he said.*      If so, there may be hope for our species, after all.




The BBC claims it has proved that Nessie the plesiosaur (a marine      reptile) does not exist. What they did      was use satellite navigation technology to aim 600 separate sonar beams      through Loch Ness to ensure that none of the loch was missed and found no      trace of the monster. The research team hoped their instruments would pick      up the air in Nessie's lungs as it reflected a distorted signal back to the      sonar sensors. The only signal they got was from their test buoy moored      several meters below the surface.

     "We went from shoreline to shoreline, top to bottom on this one, we have      covered everything in this loch and we saw no signs of any large living      animal in the loch," said Ian Florence, one of the specialists who carried      out the survey for the BBC.*      The show, called Searching For The Loch Ness Monster, was made for      BBC One.







Source :   http://www.skepdic.com/nessie.html




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Posted 06 April 2012 - 06:40 PM

View PostSakari, on 06 April 2012 - 05:41 PM, said:

That story is a bunch of lies.....I lived , grew up, 43 years in Sparks Nevada......Fished and jetski'd at Frenchman Reservoir.......Hunted/fished/back packed/camped and spent many days and nights at Gold Lake and the surrounding area.....I know people whom live in Downieville, and have their entire lives.....I even talked with someone whom knows the person claiming this crap.......So, since the shooting story is a lie, what does that make the good old doctor?

If you know anything about the story, and have actually looked into it, than the bolded above should stick out like a sore thumb to you.....If not, you don't know 1/10th of it, just what you read on the internet.



I'm thrilled to hear this news. Thank you..


Nessie :

In      2007, it was estimated that Nessie tourism brought in an estimated £6      million ($12.2 million) to the Highlands. Some are blaming skepticism and the fact that      there have been only  two sightings in the first nine months of 2007.      There were only      three sightings in 2006. A decade ago, ten to twenty sightings a year was      common.* The decline in      sightings should concern the true believers, given the ubiquity of digital      cameras, camera-phones, and the presence of webcams at various places around      the lake.



Adrian Shine, head of the       Loch     Ness Project, believes that one reason for the decline in sightings is      that people are more skeptical about what they see. “I think we live in a      more pragmatic age, and that people are becoming more aware of the sort of      illusions that can occur on water,” he said.*      If so, there may be hope for our species, after all.




The BBC claims it has proved that Nessie the plesiosaur (a marine      reptile) does not exist. What they did      was use satellite navigation technology to aim 600 separate sonar beams      through Loch Ness to ensure that none of the loch was missed and found no      trace of the monster. The research team hoped their instruments would pick      up the air in Nessie's lungs as it reflected a distorted signal back to the      sonar sensors. The only signal they got was from their test buoy moored      several meters below the surface.

     "We went from shoreline to shoreline, top to bottom on this one, we have      covered everything in this loch and we saw no signs of any large living      animal in the loch," said Ian Florence, one of the specialists who carried      out the survey for the BBC.*      The show, called Searching For The Loch Ness Monster, was made for      BBC One.






Source :   http://www.skepdic.com/nessie.html


I think the only place having lake sightings of Nessie now is up in Canada where there is access to the ocean from a couple of lakes there IIRC. The only 2 things that I know are real is BF because I saw one, and UFOs because I've seen three. That is all I know about any of this stuff. I don't know what UFOs or BF are, I just happened to see them. You guys have posted all of this info about this creature that is out on the internet. You guys do great research!
My thoughts are that both of these cryptids are real, and UFOs exist. I don't know what any of them are, but there are so many pictures and stories about them there must be something real to them. IMVHO, of course..
What will it take for you guys/gals to believe in any of these things? That was just a curious question because I'm not a hard core skeptic, and I wondered what it takes for skeptics to believe. That's all I was asking. A Body for BF? A crashed UFO in your yard; Nessie eating your swimming dog?


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Posted 06 April 2012 - 07:24 PM

View PostSusiq2, on 05 April 2012 - 12:40 AM, said:

How will you cope if a UFO crashes for all of the world to see, or a Bigfoot is hit and killed somehow and it is a genuine creature?
I'm talking genuine proof, a UFO crash totally covered by all media, or a BF body,with DNA results and  pictures,also covered by mainstream media and science? A dead "Nessie" washes ashore somewhere in Loch Ness?
Will you believe that news, or still not accept it until you personally touch it?
I'll believe DNA and video from reputable sources mainly because I've seen UFOs in daylight and a Bigfoot close up, but I'm not a skeptic, I'm open to ideas of unknown creatures or visitors from someplace besides the surface of our home planet.
How would that event effect you?  I'll be frightened, but will continue on because I think that they have either been visiting or always here so for me nothing will change except that it would be verified for the world to know that they do exist.
What will you think and do if or when this happens?

I haven't personally touched a lot of things I know exist. So no, that is not a requirement for proof for me.

"I'll believe DNA and video from reputable sources" susiq2
That is the clincher. I doubt we agree on "reputable sources". So tests, research, revelations and discoveries from only pseudo-science circles is not proof of anything for me.
What exactly can be proven with any alleged DNA sample? Can you explain how that works?

These characters play by their own poker rules: Keep it close to the vest, don't let anyone see you flinch and just say "I won!" and collect your money and fame. No need to show your cards.

"A smart, well,a brilliant scientist has taken the time to do it right!" susiq2  
Can you at least tell us of your qualifications to make this judgement call? Why so certain are you that you had the confidence to come here  and elsewhere, and post your announcement to the public?

Edited by QuiteContrary, 06 April 2012 - 07:34 PM.

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 07:35 PM

View PostSusiq2, on 06 April 2012 - 06:40 PM, said:

I think the only place having lake sightings of Nessie now is up in Canada where there is access to the ocean from a couple of lakes there IIRC. The only 2 things that I know are real is BF because I saw one, and UFOs because I've seen three. That is all I know about any of this stuff. I don't know what UFOs or BF are, I just happened to see them. You guys have posted all of this info about this creature that is out on the internet. You guys do great research!
My thoughts are that both of these cryptids are real, and UFOs exist. I don't know what any of them are, but there are so many pictures and stories about them there must be something real to them. IMVHO, of course..
What will it take for you guys/gals to believe in any of these things? That was just a curious question because I'm not a hard core skeptic, and I wondered what it takes for skeptics to believe. That's all I was asking. A Body for BF? A crashed UFO in your yard; Nessie eating your swimming dog?



It is obvious from that you did not read my reply did you?.....Sorry, my " research " was Physically being there.........



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What will it take for you guys/gals to believe in any of these things?


A dead body....Confirmed by Science, not BFRO or a " scientist " on the internet.

" UFO " ......I know those exist all ready.......They are all over the place, and I have seen quite a few of them.....I have also had one " land " near me while chukar hunting in Nevada.

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 11:56 PM

View PostSusiq2, on 06 April 2012 - 02:51 PM, said:

I disagree only because the soldiers the government uses to retrieve crashed UFOs are a special branch of the military, sworn to secrecy, able to get to the crash site quickly because they are tracking every flying saucer that comes into Earth's orbit. When a crash occurs, they get there in just a very few hours, they have even gone into Mexico when a small plane crashed into a UFO and both vehicles crashed to the ground. The first people om site were killed by gasses, then a squad of specially trained soldiers from Fort Bliss Texas arrived and retrieved *everything** and left with it.If every branch of the government worked as well as this unit does, the United States would be a better place.
Youve disproven your own point here.  If the secret agency is so good at what they supposedly do then how is it you know anything about it and are able to tell what they are doing to all of us?  You must be a very high ranking nurse to be privy to all this top secret information.


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Posted 07 April 2012 - 02:19 AM

View Postvitruvian12, on 06 April 2012 - 11:56 PM, said:

Youve disproven your own point here.  If the secret agency is so good at what they supposedly do then how is it you know anything about it and are able to tell what they are doing to all of us?  You must be a very high ranking nurse to be privy to all this top secret information.
I did not discover this info on my own, it was part of a UFO program about how and why UFO crashes are usually covered up so very quickly, and the evidence removed before the media shows up. The retrieval  group is supposedly based at Fort Bliss in Texas, and have been trained on how to handle UFO retrieval with all of the equipment they may need at their disposal to use to keep themselves safe, and to retrieve the craft. My being a nurse has nothing to do with my UFO beliefs, my belief comes from seeing them. Yikes Twice, I have never been as frightened as I was when I had a close encounter with a UFO when I was about 10 years of age. It was a big sighting, 600+ people called the police, and my sister fainted when we ran crying and shaking into the house to tell our mother what we had seen. My father brought home the newspaper the next day and the front page had the story of the UFO being sighted and mentioned how many people had called the police to report it. That is how I know how many people had called the police that day. My sister and I were within 15 feet of the craft. It is not something that I will ever forget!





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