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[Karlis]

news.gather.com said:

Video: Whatever it is, an enlargement of the object doesn't reveal a traditional body shape for smaller jets. It's rounded, has no wings and doesn't appear to have any markings identifying it as a commercial aircraft. Read more...

[PersonFromPorlock]

Interesting. The object starts out small and dim and both grows and brightens as it approaches the airliner, which is what a real object would do. I do note that the flap on the 747's wing appears to be partially extended, which indicates that the airliner wasn't flying at anything like its top speed.

Could be real, could be CGI. If real, could be something 'ordinary' in supersonic flight surrounded by a nimbus of condensation. But interesting.

[Realm]

This aircraft seems to be holding altitude, flaps down on a landing approach. His speed would be around 180 - 190 kts max. Whatever came past
in the footage wasn't traveling at an incredible speed, however, it was fast.

Biggest problem I have is, did the cameraman see it before, or after he filmed it.

If he was the one asking "Did you see that"? Then why didn't he pan the camera forward to watch in front of the wing for the exit trajectory.

And if the cameraman didn't say that, Why didn't he answer the one asking the question?

[Englishgent]

I agree, the aircraft appears to be coming in to land so wont be going too fast. However, what the UFO is, I have no idea. Very interesting. Maybe somebody else can come up with reasons as to a possible fake or not

[JGirl]

that was a very interesting video. i'm looking forward to hearing more about it, hearing some of your responses to it. doesn't look faked to me...?

[Chrlzs]

I'm going to lazily call CGI.. There are others here that are better at downloading the best quality video and analysing it frame by frame - hopefully one of them might be less lazy than me..  my spider sense tells me that the motion/motion blur is just not quite right.

A few other notes - given the obviously slow speed of the aircraft on approach, there is no way that the anomaly (if real) is anywhere near supersonic speed.  Further, Realm's observations are spot on - the story doesn't make sense:

- why does he leave the camera right there (and/or not answer), given the comment about seeing it?
- what was he filming in the first place?  If he was filming the approach, it seems odd to have so much wing in the frame (but of course having a steady-ish image makes cgi easier..)
- why so few details about precisely where, what camera, etc?
- where can the original, uncompressed footage be found?  there is a dead end at 'CBN'

Interesting coincidence - the story is from Tom Rose (who seems to do a LOT of these, all equally shallowly investigated), and the video was taken, apparently, by Thomas (Tom) Roth.  I'm not suggesting anything, but people seem to make a lot of coincidences - I think it's only natural that they crop up quite frequently like that.

And if Mr Roth is not willing to post the original, straight-from-camera-media footage, then I think I know where this is heading..  Somebody call Jaime Maussan!

[Kryso]

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Did you see that flying blob?

Looks real enough. But then, CGI is so advanced these days, without specialist equipment being used on the original film, its impossible to tell

[zoser]

Kryso, on 06 April 2012 - 08:12 AM, said:

Looks real enough. But then, CGI is so advanced these days, without specialist equipment being used on the original film, its impossible to tell

The CGI jobs are usually more dramatic than this and you instinctively become suspicious.  It makes me think that these things must be flying around all the time but 90% of the time we just don't register them.  These videos account for 10% of the examples that are actually noticed.

[Hazzard]

True. These days everyone got a UFO app in their smart phone.

Makes my "job" so much harder.  



10 Best UFO Hoax Videos on YouTube. http://mashable.com/...est-ufo-videos/

Edited by Hazzard, 06 April 2012 - 08:31 AM.

[Paxus]

This is EXACTLY another one of those that I keep saying isn't worth posting!!!
What's the point in speculating about a fuzzy little blob?!?!!?!?
SERIOUSLY?!

Again and again, you people speculate like loons over a little fuzz!

Unless you saw it and how it moved etc... maybe then you might have something interesting to say but just a still picture of a light little nothing?? Nah, don't waste my internet time....

If you people keep posting rubbish, I'm leaving for another 3 months!
I'll do it!

[Realm]

Paxus, on 06 April 2012 - 08:29 PM, said:

This is EXACTLY another one of those that I keep saying isn't worth posting!!!
What's the point in speculating about a fuzzy little blob?!?!!?!?
SERIOUSLY?!

Again and again, you people speculate like loons over a little fuzz!

Unless you saw it and how it moved etc... maybe then you might have something interesting to say but just a still picture of a light little nothing?? Nah, don't waste my internet time....

If you people keep posting rubbish, I'm leaving for another 3 months!
I'll do it!

There's a video beneath the still picture. Scroll down a bit.

[DONTEATUS]

Threats again Pax ? Well Its at least a better video than the ones of late. The speed of this object is moving close to 2,000 mph If the Air liner is doing 170 or so ! Thats what a really fast military jet would be cookin.
But who knows for sure. Its fun to watch though right ?

[1963]

Reminds me of these two recent videos that were taken from aeroplane windows around the Netherlands area...



and..

http://www.youtube.c...&v=nwBCQmbiVwE#

Cheers.

[Chrlzs]

DONTEATUS, on 06 April 2012 - 09:29 PM, said:

Threats again Pax ? Well Its at least a better video than the ones of late. The speed of this object is moving close to 2,000 mph If the Air liner is doing 170 or so ! Thats what a really fast military jet would be cookin.
But who knows for sure. Its fun to watch though right ?

WHOA there!!!

I like your posts, Dont, but I can't let this one past.  Please show your mathematics and reasoning for your estimate.

You cannot possibly make such a determination without knowing the distance of the 'thing' from the camera, along with some other information.. I'm happy to elaborate, but I have to say that estimate is WAY over the top, given what I think would be sensible guesses at the possible ranges of distance and the field of view.

If it's a real object, I'll happily wager it is nowhere near supersonic let alone 3x that - which is what you are suggesting.

[PersonFromPorlock]

Hmm... on further thought, it occurs to me that a shoulder-launched SAM fired at the airliner, or at another airplane in the vicinity, might look something like that under some conditions of humidity. I don't know that for a fact, but it seems possible.