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#1    Paracelse

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 06:23 AM

news.yahoo.com said:

PARIS (AP) A string of murders involving the same weapon have raised concerns a serial killer may be on the loose in a Paris suburb, and come as France is still reeling from a wave of terror-related shootings in its south.

Four murders have taken place in the Essonne region of the capital since November, the latest that of a 47-year-old woman Thursday.The same semiautomatic gun was used in all four attacks, prosecutor Marie-Suzanne Le Queau said during a news conference Friday.

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There are some serious errors in the article, fact is the killings started in 2011 so there are not a continuation of the Toulouse Montauban killing the work of a deranged djiadist.  Second, the gun used in the four shooting in this case is a 7,63 mm not a 45 caliber (11,43 mm) and if there is a copycat technic it was use by mohamed merah and not the other way around.  Yep French a peaceful people and there are no crimes since guns have been banned.
Who said when guns are outlawed only outlaws have guns?

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 09:40 PM

View PostParacelse, on 07 April 2012 - 06:23 AM, said:

There are some serious errors in the article, fact is the killings started in 2011 so there are not a continuation of the Toulouse Montauban killing the work of a deranged djiadist.  Second, the gun used in the four shooting in this case is a 7,63 mm not a 45 caliber (11,43 mm) and if there is a copycat technic it was use by mohamed merah and not the other way around.  Yep French a peaceful people and there are no crimes since guns have been banned.
Who said when guns are outlawed only outlaws have guns?
I'm not sure who said it, but they nailed it!
I understand the cultural differences.  I understand that very old and staid, traditional countries like France and Britain can see no need for firearms to be available to the general public.  But when they look down the nose at America as though we are stupid for not recognizing that more guns equals more gun deaths it makes me a little angry.  We as a nation have decided to pay that price to maintain a right given to us in the Constitution.  If the gendarmerie tomorrow decided to begin random arrests or even opened fire on the citizens as is happening in Syria, what then?  It is a dangerous thing to give any government completely unchecked power.  While the "threat" of violence against government is actually rather hollow, it is not something lightly dismissed if they piss off enough of the citizenry.  The irony is that I once was involved in Service Rifle competitions.  I owned a custom AR-15 with special trigger and heavy barrel.  We fired 200,400 and 600 yd. targets with iron sights, no scopes.  It was great fun and comraderie.
Today I don't even own a lowly shotgun.  Had to sell everything to survive last year.  One day I hope to get back into the sport though.  And at least have a shotgun for home defense.

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 10:48 AM

View Postand then, on 09 April 2012 - 09:40 PM, said:

I'm not sure who said it, but they nailed it!
I understand the cultural differences.  I understand that very old and staid, traditional countries like France and Britain can see no need for firearms to be available to the general public.  But when they look down the nose at America as though we are stupid for not recognizing that more guns equals more gun deaths it makes me a little angry.  We as a nation have decided to pay that price to maintain a right given to us in the Constitution.  If the gendarmerie tomorrow decided to begin random arrests or even opened fire on the citizens as is happening in Syria, what then?  It is a dangerous thing to give any government completely unchecked power.  While the "threat" of violence against government is actually rather hollow, it is not something lightly dismissed if they piss off enough of the citizenry.  The irony is that I once was involved in Service Rifle competitions.  I owned a custom AR-15 with special trigger and heavy barrel.  We fired 200,400 and 600 yd. targets with iron sights, no scopes.  It was great fun and comraderie.
Today I don't even own a lowly shotgun.  Had to sell everything to survive last year.  One day I hope to get back into the sport though.  And at least have a shotgun for home defense.
French people had constitutional rights to own guns (actually it was unlawful not to own one) until someone, a very egocentric tall dude decided to have it removed in the 5th republic and a socialist who used to be a cagoulard (extreme right wing in late 30's France) created laws to make it illegal.

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République No.6
It's time for a sixth republic.




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