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[Mbyte]

quillius, on 10 April 2012 - 09:28 AM, said:

curious as to why you think it may have been post production?

maybe I need to watch it again as I am sure he zooms whilst filming?!?!

Ah for **** sake people.. honestly!!!??

This video is fake. Now I shall explain in impeccable detail as to why it is fake, read on. First and foremost I am believer

At first glance I thought instantly... this is a bad fake but I always give the video chance just in case my initial opinion is wrong I watch it in detail to find exactly what my honed eye saw the first time. I am a film enthusiast and over the years of playing games and watching movie and making movies I can spot post production a mile away. In fact I hate seeing it in movies unless it's done well. Most people don't even realize that half of their favorite shows are filmed with using a lot of green screen.

Anyway let's get down to business. Firstly the big give away is the zoom. The original footage is a tiny bit shaky, the zoom however is way too smooth and too calculated. The zoom is completely independent to the original footage. It looks like the zoom zooms in on shaky footage. You'd tell if the zoom is authentic because it would show in the shake of the footage. You have to handle the camera differently in order to zoom. The zoom moves around the original footage very inhuman like and the end is the most obvious because the camera comes to a sudden stop. That would be impossible to do hand held. Just watch from 10:00  to 12:00 the camera pans diagonally then stops dead with amazing precision.

Another thing is that the zoom is a digital zoom. There are two type of zooms on a camera, there is a digital zoom and an optical zoom. Optical zoom uses the glass in the lens to move and bend light in order zoom in on an object much like a telescope. Digital zoom however is the camera artificially zooming in on an image, this is exactly like zooming in on a picture until you see all the colored squares called pixels which make up the image.

This footage uses digital zoom. There are two ways to digital zoom footage, the camera does it, or you do it the editing program. Due to the nature zoom and movement of the panning of the camera while zoomed the zoom is defiantly caused in post production. I can even see on the original footage that it's a digital zoom. The zoom is fake and has all the characteristics of being fake.

The sound used on the footage reminds me of the Jerusalem dome footage which was also fake. The sound could have been taken from anywhere on YouTube and put on the footage. I'm done with dissecting this, watch this and be amazed

Edited by Mbyte, 10 April 2012 - 10:31 AM.

[quillius]

Mbyte, on 10 April 2012 - 10:26 AM, said:

Ah for **** sake people.. honestly!!!??

This video is fake. Now I shall explain in impeccable detail as to why it is fake, read on. First and foremost I am believer

relax, its good to know the detail.

I too am a believer, and my money would have been on CGI for this video....however I see nothing wrong with understanding the detail behind why it is....my first hunch of CGI had nothing educated behind it, so thats why I kept asking.

anyhow, thanks for the explanation  

edit to add: Chrlz, someone just saved you a long post

Edited by quillius, 10 April 2012 - 10:41 AM.

[preacherman76]

Hard to say with this one. It doesnt look obviously fake, but who knows.

[Chrlzs]

quillius, on 10 April 2012 - 10:40 AM, said:

edit to add: Chrlz, someone just saved you a long post

{Grins}  Thanks, Quill.. I'm taking that as a compliment!  I confess I haven't even looked at this footage, but it seems to have been pretty well covered.  If any significant doubts remain, speak up now.. or I won't bother and wait for something decent.  Surely *one day* it will come.

Heck, I'd even settle for a *decent* hoax - you know, the proverbial *good* hoax where the imagery is good, and (deep breath) the STORY matches it and is logical..  Gasp.

No sign of that to date, despite CGI being available to every Tom Dick and Harry... Why are hoaxers so shockingly incompetent at putting together a decent, believable story?

Maybe *I* should do one..    Trouble is, I'm not that much of a CGI artiste.  If anyone wants to donate me some good footage...?  {kidding..}

[quillius]

Chrlzs, on 10 April 2012 - 10:52 AM, said:

{Grins}  Thanks, Quill.. I'm taking that as a compliment!  I confess I haven't even looked at this footage, but it seems to have been pretty well covered.  If any significant doubts remain, speak up now.. or I won't bother and wait for something decent.  Surely *one day* it will come.

Heck, I'd even settle for a *decent* hoax - you know, the proverbial *good* hoax where the imagery is good, and (deep breath) the STORY matches it and is logical..  Gasp.

No sign of that to date, despite CGI being available to every Tom Dick and Harry... Why are hoaxers so shockingly incompetent at putting together a decent, believable story?

Maybe *I* should do one..    Trouble is, I'm not that much of a CGI artiste.  If anyone wants to donate me some good footage...?  {kidding..}

ha ha, I knew this would be right up your street......

please dont add any more mud....drives me insane.

[The New Richard Nixon]

Its a fake, end of story.

[Chooky88]

Paxus, on 09 April 2012 - 01:28 PM, said:

It doesn't look 1-dimensional.
How do you know it's fake?

I don't. Just my opinion as I need more evidence. Thisvis just too... Convenient

[Chooky88]

SquareTraveler, on 09 April 2012 - 03:42 PM, said:

keenu, I find it hilarious when hypocrites like you accuse people of being closed-minded when they're drawing their conclusions from the evidence presented, while in the meantime, you disregard the evidence and conclude that it's as likely to be real as any completely unrelated sighting.  It's an obvious fake.  You're the one being closed-minded, because you're ignoring the obvious in favor of what you prefer to believe.  All of us here have the inclination to believe.  We're just not willing to close our minds in order to do so.

well said!

[spud the mackem]

quillius, on 10 April 2012 - 09:38 AM, said:

hmm going back over thread I couldnt find two? who are they?

    Hee Hee,Just a wind up friend,believe in what you must, ABBA believe in Angels ,they sing it in a song,but never underestimate believers as one day they may be proved right,then we shall all have "egg on face".I guess I am agnostic...cheers

[quillius]

spud the mackem, on 10 April 2012 - 04:12 PM, said:

Hee Hee,Just a wind up friend,believe in what you must, ABBA believe in Angels ,they sing it in a song,but never underestimate believers as one day they may be proved right,then we shall all have "egg on face".I guess I am agnostic...cheers

I am on that side of the fence myself, but I would hate to see people with 'egg on face'  

[DONTEATUS]

quillius, on 10 April 2012 - 04:16 PM, said:

I am on that side of the fence myself, but I would hate to see people with 'egg on face'  

Well in South or North Korea just put a little Kim-chee on that egg&face This will at least make it ok to eat !
justDONTEATUS.

[Legaia]

Erix, on 10 April 2012 - 12:47 PM, said:

Its a fake, end of story.

How insightful. Thanks!

[sestra15]

Did people on the ground see it above them?

[spud the mackem]

DONTEATUS, on 10 April 2012 - 04:52 PM, said:

Well in South or North Korea just put a little Kim-chee on that egg&face This will at least make it ok to eat !
justDONTEATUS.

Dont you mean Egg ,Flied Lice ?

[zenfahr]

I dunno, looks pretty good too me.  Could be real.  I dont see anything that jumps out as fake to me.