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#1    Mr. Smith

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 11:41 PM

an atheist is just an agnostic that hasn't figured out what infiniti is yet. Es verdad?


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Posted 10 April 2012 - 12:15 AM

View PostFramling, on 09 April 2012 - 11:41 PM, said:

an atheist is just an agnostic that hasn't figured out what infiniti is yet. Es verdad?

Care to expand on that a little?

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 05:37 AM

View PostEuphorbia, on 10 April 2012 - 12:15 AM, said:

Care to expand on that a little?

View PostEuphorbia, on 10 April 2012 - 12:15 AM, said:

Care to expand on that a little?

Sure.
"An atheist is just an agnostic that hasn't figured out what infiniti is yet."

Just wondered the other day as I thought about alot unexplained mysteries.  

Or what about the ultimate unexplained mysteries, "how did ALL life begin and when/how did  intelligence enter the picture, are we alone? "

And ones like  "What's at the end of our universe" are we the only "Big Bang"" or "could there be trillions and countless trillions more across the frontiers of infinity??"

I used to  think i knew it all, now bareley nothing at all and everything at once.

And no im not smoking anything. :)


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Posted 10 April 2012 - 08:15 AM

What does that have to do with atheism again?


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Posted 10 April 2012 - 08:37 AM

And what does it have to do with agnosticism?

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 11:08 AM

You figure it out. To put the quote ( I wouldn't call it a hypothesis, just tossingto it outa there. In simpler terms :


Understanding infinity in terms of time and space can turn a hardened atheist into an agnostic softy.


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Posted 10 April 2012 - 04:31 PM

View PostFramling, on 10 April 2012 - 11:08 AM, said:

You figure it out. To put the quote ( I wouldn't call it a hypothesis, just tossingto it outa there. In simpler terms :


Understanding infinity in terms of time and space can turn a hardened atheist into an agnostic softy.
I don't see how.

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 04:55 PM

View PostFramling, on 10 April 2012 - 11:08 AM, said:

You figure it out. To put the quote ( I wouldn't call it a hypothesis, just tossingto it outa there. In simpler terms :


Understanding infinity in terms of time and space can turn a hardened atheist into an agnostic softy.
Still doesn't make sense as atheism is the rejection of deities.


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Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:01 AM

View PostRlyeh, on 10 April 2012 - 04:55 PM, said:

Still doesn't make sense as atheism is the rejection of deities.t

But that's why it might  make sense. Agnostics choose to keep an open mind where atheists chose to not believe in any devine intervention from a much, much, much more advanced life form or entity. With infinity of time past and space, subspace, and beyond...


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Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:14 AM

View PostFramling, on 11 April 2012 - 12:01 AM, said:

But that's why it might  make sense. Agnostics choose to keep an open mind where atheists chose to not believe in any devine intervention from a much, much, much more advanced life form or entity. With infinity of time past and space, subspace, and beyond...

Who says Atheists don't have an open mind?........oh yeah....you.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I have a very open mind! Give me something substantial to change my mind that makes sense and I will change my mind or views very quickly.

And by the way, Atheists don't choose to not believe......we just don't believe. You're getting into some pretty weird stuff here.

Sorry Rlyeh, I know this was meant for you but I had to respond.......

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 07:36 AM

"Open mindedness" is the folk-psychology word for the universal human capacity to attend to changes in a body of evidence. Positions about the question of God, including the agnostics', harden because there is rarely any major change in the evidence to be "open minded" about.

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where atheists chose to not believe in any devine intervention from a much, much, much more advanced life form or entity.
The subject matter of atheism, like that of agnosticism, is the existence of god(s). "More advanced life forms" aren't gods.

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With infinity of time past and space, subspace, and beyond...
While spatial unboundedness may help someone believe in the existence of alien MALFs, unbounded distances seem to complicate your hypothesis that they intervene here. That, however, is a staple of the UFO-origins debate, which has its own board here at UM. Atheists, theists, agnostics and apathetics are equally eligible to participate in that debate, on either side.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 08:32 AM

View Posteight bits, on 11 April 2012 - 07:36 AM, said:

"Open mindedness" is the folk-psychology word for the universal human capacity to attend to changes in a body of evidence. Positions about the question of God, including the agnostics', harden because there is rarely any major change in the evidence to be "open minded" about.


The subject matter of atheism, like that of agnosticism, is the existence of god(s). "More advanced life forms" aren't gods.


While spatial unboundedness may help someone believe in the existence of alien MALFs, unbounded distances seem to complicate your hypothesis that they intervene here. That, however, is a staple of the UFO-origins debate, which has its own board here at UM. Atheists, theists, agnostics and apathetics are equally eligible to participate in that debate, on either side.

Who said anything about UFO's? But if I did who cares?  It's one of who knows how many possibilities another one is allowed to contemplate as an agnostic.


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Posted 11 April 2012 - 08:41 AM

Quote of the day:'Infiniti is the debut full-length studio album from singer-songwriter/multi-instrumentalist Salman Ahmad, and the eighth with his band...'

Edit: Serious comment pending.

Edited by Timonthy, 11 April 2012 - 08:41 AM.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 09:08 AM

View PostFramling, on 11 April 2012 - 12:01 AM, said:

But that's why it might  make sense. Agnostics choose to keep an open mind where atheists chose to not believe in any devine intervention from a much, much, much more advanced life form or entity. With infinity of time past and space, subspace, and beyond...
So agnostics call aliens, gods now?

That is assuming by life form you are speaking of biological life form.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 09:24 AM

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Who said anything about UFO's?
I did. I said that your MALF theory is just the thing for another board here at UM, and doesn't distinguish atheists from agnostics, contrary to your claim.

You didn't specify the mechanism for your aliens to arrive here in order to "intervene." I chose one that is typically proposed, something that flies. Stargates are good, too, I suppose, and have cool action figures.

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