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#1    Lottie

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Posted 18 September 2004 - 12:42 PM

Militants have threatened to kill three Western hostages unless all female Iraqi prisoners are set free, according to a video shown by al-Jazeera TV.  

The three men, who were kidnapped in Baghdad this week, appear blindfolded on the video with a masked gunman.

The station said they were being held by followers of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.

The group says the US authorities have 48 hours to release Iraqi women prisoners held in two Iraqi prisons or it will kill the hostages.




It is not clear when the video was made or how it came into al-Jazeera's possession.

The three men - Briton Kenneth Bigley, and his US colleagues Jack Hensley and Eugene Armstrong - were abducted at dawn on Thursday from a house they shared in the capital.  

In the video shown by the Qatar-based satellite TV channel , the hostages, sitting in front of a masked gunman, appear to be giving details of who they are while their abductors' demands are made.  

They had been working as engineers for a building contracting firm based in the United Arab Emirates.  

All three men's families have already appealed for their safe release.

The US embassy said it had a team assigned to the case and the UK Foreign Office said all efforts were being made to find Mr Bigley.

Fighters waging a 17-month insurgency in Iraq have kidnapped more than 100 foreigners in an effort to destabilise the interim government and drive foreigners from the country.

The three men's kidnapping is the latest in a string of high-profile abductions of Westerners in Iraq.

Two French journalists were abducted almost a month ago and two female Italian aid workers, along with two of their Iraqi colleagues, were grabbed from their offices on 7 September.

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The group said to be holding the hostages, Tawheed Wal-Jihad (Unification and Holy War), wants Iraqi women in prisons at Abu Ghraib, near Baghdad, and Umm Qasr, in the south of the country, to be released.

The US government has said it holds only two women in Iraq - high-level detainees who are understood to have been part of Saddam Hussein's regime.  

One of them is Rihab Rashid Taha - the woman dubbed Dr Germ for her role in developing Iraqi biological weapons, says the BBC's Caroline Hawley in Baghdad.

  The video broadcast on Saturday is the first indication of who might have abducted the three men.  

Tawheed Wal-Jihad is led by Abu Musab Zarqawi, an ally of al-Qaeda who the Americans say is behind much of the violence in Iraq.

The US has offered a $25m reward for his capture.

The group has claimed responsibility for many attacks in Iraq, including the kidnapping of foreign workers and suicide bombings that have killed Iraqi officials.  

          

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Posted 18 September 2004 - 04:02 PM

We need to get people out of the country that are not military. It is ridiculous that there are people there that are not citizens of Iraq or soldiers.

There is no need to add the the kidnappers fodder at this point.

Furthermore we need to continue to use airstrikes against the suspected terrorist hangouts...heck, leave our boys(and girls) back on base drinking a soda while an f-16 does the work of clearing the terrorist hideouts...

Too many people on both sides of the spectrum have fallen into this mentality that a full one half of the country are the enemy for having different beliefs...in a country based on freedom of expression. It is this infighting that allows the focus to be taken away from "we the people" being able to watch, and have control over government corruption and ineptitude that is running rampant in our leadership.

People should be working towards fixing problems, not creating them.

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Posted 18 September 2004 - 04:36 PM

Yes, fluffy... they could do that... except that a lot of people will be mad because its not precise enough.

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Posted 18 September 2004 - 04:42 PM

also these foreigners are integral in rebuilding iraq


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Posted 18 September 2004 - 11:22 PM

UK 'working to free Iraq hostage'

Tony Blair says everything possible is being done to secure the release of a UK civil engineer kidnapped in Iraq.
Militants holding Kenneth Bigley and two Americans threatened to kill them unless women held in Iraqi jails were released, in a video shown on Saturday.

"We are monitoring the situation, we are doing everything we can," said Mr Blair after the ultimatum was broadcast.

The Foreign Office has advised against all but essential travel to Iraq, warning Britons risk being kidnapped.

Gunmen seized Mr Bigley with Americans Jack Hensley and Eugene Armstrong on Thursday, from a house in Baghdad's Mansour neighbourhood.

In a video aired by Arab TV channel al-Jazeera on Saturday morning, the abductors threatened to kill the hostages within 48 hours if the US did not release all women currently detained in the Abu Ghraib and Umm Qasr jails.

Mr Blair, who is due to meet interim Iraqi Prime Minister Iyad Allawi for talks in Downing Street on Sunday, said every effort was being made to secure Mr Bigley's release.

He added he did not want to say more for the sake of the hostage.

Mr Bigley, originally from the Liverpool area, is understood to be 62 and is married with one child.

The video shows the three hostages, who are sat down and blindfolded, identify themselves and describe their jobs.

Behind them, a masked militant reads out the kidnappers' ultimatum.

He claims responsibility for the abduction on behalf of the Tawhid and Jihad (Unification and Holy War) Group, led by al-Qaeda militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.

His group is believed to have carried out several attacks and kidnappings in recent months, including that of American contractor Nick Berg who was beheaded on video.

'Devastated'

According to reports, Mr Bigley had told neighbours in Baghdad he was planning to retire to Thailand with his Thai wife.

His family said in a statement: "We were devastated to find Ken had been taken, and are still struggling to come to terms with what is happening.

"It's hard to understand why Ken would be targeted... but we would appeal to those who have taken him to please return him safely to us."

The kidnapped men, who worked for Gulf Supplies and Commercial Services - a Middle East-based general services and construction contractor - lived together in the walled-off two-storey home.

The Briton's family added: "Our thoughts and prayers are with the families of his two colleagues too, who must share our distress."

More than 100 foreigners have been abducted by insurgents in Iraq over the past 17 months, in a bid to destabilise the interim government and drive foreign troops from the country.

The latest kidnappings brings the number currently held to 19.

It follows the abduction of two female Italian aid workers last week, and two French journalists on 20 August.

In August, UK journalist James Brandon was released by kidnappers a day after being abducted from a hotel in Basra.

British Muslim groups have condemned the kidnappings and called for the immediate release of the hostages.

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Posted 18 September 2004 - 11:45 PM

what this means is tony is sitting around sipping beer. XD

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 09:39 AM

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British Muslim groups have condemned the kidnappings and called for the immediate release of the hostages.


Well this is a good thing....if they really mean it.        



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Posted 19 September 2004 - 09:58 AM

Probably do, don't want a backlash

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 10:18 AM

And on it goes, will it ever end?!
The situations in Iraq just seems to get worse and worse!


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Posted 19 September 2004 - 10:20 AM

Yeah, we'll probably still be there in 20 years time.

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 02:44 PM

QUOTE(Talon S. @ Sep 19 2004, 03:20 AM)
Yeah, we'll probably still be there in 20 years time.

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That may not be such an exaggeration Talon. We will have to see how the next elections go and how the country begins to take care of itself over the next year, but this could easily turn into a long term money pit of an attempt to install a democracy.

As I have said in other threads, there should not be a single aid worker there yet, regardless of what bush says, major combat is not over and we are still in the midst of a major war which leaves no room whatsoever for aid workers.

Not until the fighting is over which will be one very long time.

Shall we start another thread to discuss the possibility of a draft again?

Too many people on both sides of the spectrum have fallen into this mentality that a full one half of the country are the enemy for having different beliefs...in a country based on freedom of expression. It is this infighting that allows the focus to be taken away from "we the people" being able to watch, and have control over government corruption and ineptitude that is running rampant in our leadership.

People should be working towards fixing problems, not creating them.

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 07:05 PM

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this could easily turn into a long term money pit of an attempt to install a democracy.


This is so much more than an attempt to install a democracy.  We are fighting terrorists.  And these terrorists we are fighting are not regular folk who became disenchanted with The USA over Iraq and decided to become terrorists.  They were terrorists before hand.  We are not breeding terrorism.  We are fighting terrorism.  In particularly we are fighting Iran...in Iraq.  Soon however, we will be fighting Iran in Iran and when we do I think we shall all be amazed to see how almost effortlessly the transistions taking place are met with success.  

As I have mentioned before, it does little good to protect your children by killing the huge wasp nest on the eave, if you ignore the huge yellow jacket nest just around the corner on the next eave.  Take out all of the threats....then your children will be safe.  We need to clean up Iran and  clean up Syria.  If we succeed...and we will...in freeing the enslaved people of Iran and Syria, I believe we will also see a shift in the politics of Hamas and Hasbala.  

At any rate,  please everyone keep in mind that while we discuss the pros and cons of it all, brave men and women from all over the world are over there in harms way.   Just keeping it in perspective. original.gif

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 07:29 PM

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Shall we start another thread to discuss the possibility of a draft again?


Didn't the last one get locked? huh.gif  laugh.gif Oh yeah, that was the one I thought you were so good in, I PMed you on how great it was and we got talking thumbsup.gif


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As I have said in other threads, there should not be a single aid worker there yet, regardless of what bush says, major combat is not over and we are still in the midst of a major war which leaves no room whatsoever for aid workers.


Yeah its a war-zone, while they're at it they may want a curfew in certain areas. If the continue to persist to pour aid workers in there they should only travel with the military in LARGE numbers.

Edited by Talon S., 19 September 2004 - 08:38 PM.

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 07:36 PM

I don't think those guys are going to come out of this alive and their families probably know that but still we must always hope for the best.


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Posted 19 September 2004 - 08:37 PM

Hostages have been released before.... but yeah a lot have died, and this does look grim for them.

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