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James Randi on cold fusion and Carl Sagan


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#1    Saru

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 10:18 AM

James Randi on cold fusion and Carl Sagan
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James Randi discusses the latest news about cold fusion on this episode of his regular podcast.




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Posted 15 April 2012 - 12:46 PM

I used to have some respect for James Randi from when he was debunking magic tricks.  But after watching this lame shilling attempt, I don't any more.  
Some day, I think his opinion on this topic will be looked back at with a humorous chuckle, and relegated to the trashbin of history.


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Posted 15 April 2012 - 07:10 PM

View PostJamesBe1, on 15 April 2012 - 12:46 PM, said:

I used to have some respect for James Randi from when he was debunking magic tricks.  But after watching this lame shilling attempt, I don't any more.  
Some day, I think his opinion on this topic will be looked back at with a humorous chuckle, and relegated to the trashbin of history.

I suspect you never actually watched the vid. as he speaks perfect sense throughout. No doubt he will as you say be relegated to the trash bin of history, but only by the very people (scammers) he exposes.

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 07:41 PM

View Postitsnotoutthere, on 15 April 2012 - 07:10 PM, said:

I suspect you never actually watched the vid. as he speaks perfect sense throughout. No doubt he will as you say be relegated to the trash bin of history, but only by the very people (scammers) he exposes.

No, I watched the entire video from beginning to end.  I even watched a couple of selected portions more than once.

James Randi has exposed numerous hoaxers and scammers over the years, no doubt about that.  It's just that, on this point, he is absolutely flat out wrong.  The history of cold fusion is full of suppression and naysayers.  But the evidence (if you care to research it yourself) has pretty much moved from being highly probable, to being almost an absolute certainty (I paraphrase Eugene Mallove there).

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