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Was Jesus a Buddhist monk?


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#106    Harsh86_Patel

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 05:34 AM

View PostM.A.D CapeBretoner, on 28 October 2012 - 12:49 PM, said:

Buddhist do not have a belief in God our father if anything he saw where they took the secerects of our Father God and put forth in there own crooked view. They are part of that Dragon not God our Father.
A link highlighting similarities between Krishna (also known as Mithilesh comparable to Mithra) and Jesus the Sun of God.
http://www.religious...g/chr_jckr1.htm


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Posted 29 October 2012 - 05:37 AM

View PostM.A.D CapeBretoner, on 28 October 2012 - 12:49 PM, said:

Buddhist do not have a belief in God our father if anything he saw where they took the secerects of our Father God and put forth in there own crooked view. They are part of that Dragon not God our Father.
here is an interesting view linking christianity and sun worship.(posted only one link it has three parts so don't skip the other two)



The lord our father is probably the Sun.


Jesus Never Existed--The Greatest Story Ever Sold (1of 3).flv




Incase the link doesn't show up you can search using the above title on youtube and you will find it

Edited by Harsh86_Patel, 29 October 2012 - 05:39 AM.


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Posted 31 October 2012 - 02:22 AM

View Postthe L, on 15 April 2012 - 09:06 PM, said:

Hello Umers,

In the past when Lama dies Buddhist monks looks for the sign in the sky for reincarnation of Lama. When they find reincanated Lama then they took that child and teach him -at ages where he could be thought properly.
Were Biblical Magi buddhists monks? So is Jesus raised in India?
We dont know much about Jesus early life except gnostic documents.

Nicolaj Notovič  Russian Cossack officer ,spy and journalist, studied Buddhism in Tibet and wrote book: Unknown life of Jesus.
In his book he said that Buddist at Tibet wrote that "divine child is born in Judea-Isa .Isa came to India at age 14 and study Buddhism and leave at age of 29 and set on the way to Jerusalem. Where he teach people and later was killed." In short.
http://en.wikipedia....colas_Notovitch

As I heard Buddha also healed people,walk on water,feed mass of hungry people...so...

Also there are legends among people in India about Jusasa  who was sheperd and healer.(as I heard)(?)

Hi The L,

I think this book could be very interesting for you: Édouard Schuré, Les Grands Initiés. Esquisse de l'histoire secrète des religions, 1889
http://en.wikipedia....‰douard_SchurĂ©
The Great Initiates is a good reading, and I have to say that the introduction shocked me, it seems written today, not 120 years ago (we would go off topic, basically he complains that religion and science took different paths, instead of working together, and this sclerotized both positions, leading the world to bad times).


Anyway, I think that Jesus could have very well been Buddhist.
Or better, he was Buddhist as much as Siddharta was Christian. They had a message (the same message), that each of them conjugated based on the culture and religion they lived in.
Jesus based his teachings on Judaism, while Buddha on Hinduism, but they were only layers applied to make people better understand and accept their teachings (and this could explain why the Christian God is so different from the Jewish one.)
I don't follow Schurè's writings, but probably they told the same message to different cultures (and thus with different religious connotations): at the end they were the same expression of something greater.
I'm not saying that Jesus wasn't the son of God, but maybe he wasn't in the way we've been taught.

If you come to think, Buddhism is technically a philosophy, not a religion. It took Hindus references and connotations, since it developed in India, but its teachings are universal (just think about Japanese Buddhism).

Confucius too, who lived more or less in the same time period of Siddhartha, taught the same principles.
They could all be expressions of something higher, that through them managed (or tried) to reach us.

I find the discussion between Aus Der Box Skeptisch and Harsh86_Patel very interesting. Their positions point out a very discussed topic in Western philosophy: whether what we see and feel comes from inside or outside us. As SDBS says, "a good philosophy is a good philosophy", but why? Is it because two "good men" can think the same thing, even if completely unconnected, or maybe because both of them are expressing something that lies deep beneath in our souls and is connected to something bigger? In the first case, the two philosophies come from inside, because anyone good and wise can think it. In the second one, it comes from outside, because what we think, what we feel, is indeed the thought of God. So, being God behind everything, they start from the same point, take different paths, and get to the same conclusions. Well, I don't know if I managed to explain me very well.

To me, it depends on what we believe: we can see that they came to their conclusions based on their reasonings, or we can see the hand of God behind them.
Nothing of what others will say will change it, because we'll see everything we'll be told only as further corroborations of our positions.


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Posted 31 October 2012 - 06:12 AM

I highly suspect that Jesus was a near death experiencer and Christianity at it's very heart is a near death experience religion and the New Testament is a highly embellished and out of sequence near death experience story.


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Posted 01 November 2012 - 01:52 AM

View PostArtaxerxes, on 31 October 2012 - 06:12 AM, said:

I highly suspect that Jesus was a near death experiencer and Christianity at it's very heart is a near death experience religion and the New Testament is a highly embellished and out of sequence near death experience story.

Ok, let's suppose your post is genuine, why do you suspect that?
The resurrection is only one of the many miracles Jesus did and chronologically even the last one (apart from the ascension).
Your suspect could have a logic if he first died, then resurrected and then did all other miracles and teachings, but it's not so (it's the opposite).
And to tell the truth, his teachings in themself have nothing to do with resurrecting, but with love and respect each other. It doesn't talk about tunnels of light or things like that.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think you don't know very well the subject. Anyway, I'd like to be proven wrong.


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Posted 02 November 2012 - 11:52 AM

View PostParsec, on 31 October 2012 - 02:22 AM, said:


If you come to think, Buddhism is technically a philosophy, not a religion.

I mostly agreed with you and have nothing to add, although I wouldnt call Buddhism philosophy rather religion.  But again we think the same.

JFK: "And we are as a people, inherently and historically, opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths, and to secret proceedings.
For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy..."

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 05:40 AM

Yes I believe he was, but he was Jewish though... so it was kind-of odd. The main difference is that his robe is looser and he casts out demons...

Edited by SpiritWriter, 03 November 2012 - 05:41 AM.

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 05:52 AM

View PostHarsh86_Patel, on 20 October 2012 - 06:14 AM, said:



You don't need to research the claims of one individual to establish the connections,just compare the teaching of christ as asserted by the new testament to the teaching of Yahweh in the old testament and to the teaching of Buddhism and Vedic hinduism(especially Nirguna Brhman) and you will be able to see a connection.
Marcenious did have a point that the God of the new testament is different from the God potrayed in the old testament.

"Kingdom of God is within you"-Chritianity (and hence God is within you?)
"God is manifest in all of us"-Hinduism

Correct, when Jesus died on the cross, the bible depicts the tearing of the veil of the temple. This is symbolic, for when he was alive, he did teach this, the kingdom of God is within you... yes...

Edited by SpiritWriter, 03 November 2012 - 06:08 AM.

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 06:06 AM

View Postkmt_sesh, on 29 October 2012 - 01:28 AM, said:



I was raised Roman Catholic, but there is a line that should not be crossed. Because Buddhism is different from Christianity, there must be something wrong with Buddhism? Christianity is supposed to have some monopoly on religious worship and all other faiths be damned?

Seems a bit...Dark Ages in mentality, doesn't it?

It benefits both (all) sides to take a good look at the other.

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 06:08 AM

I like this topic... :D

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 06:27 AM

View PostArbitran, on 17 April 2012 - 01:32 AM, said:



I believe that Jesus of Nazareth was indeed a Hindu and Buddhist yogi/monk, yes. I find that the evidence is compelling, and points towards such a truth. The fact that Jesus very clearly quotes Buddha and the Hindu writings multiple times, both in the canonic and non-canonic gospels, is one of the most obvious indications that Jesus was well-learned in the Eastern philosophies.

I believe all these things are of God and therefore do not necessarily need to come from the same 'root' BUT that God IS their root. All things have a beginning, all things come through God. He is the creator... He made each of these 'men'. Women also are creators...





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Non-ambiguity and non-contradiction are one sided and thus unsuited to express the incomprehensible. -Jung

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 09:38 AM

Yet though it is tempting, given what Jesus is recorded as saying, to see some Buddhist influence, there is still no evidence that he was ever in Tibet or India, not one tiny shred even. Now, though there is also no physical evidence of Jesus being in Egypt during these lost years, it is far more believable that he may have been in Alexandria. Certainly there is no hard evidence, for or against, but surely commonsense dictates Egypt being a more likely place. I know the Jesus as Horus scenario generates a lot of hot air, yet can it all be nonsense? for at least a list of comparisons and circumstantial evidence can be presented for this case, unlike the total nonsense of the hoaxer Novotich. I told further up this thread that his book reads as an obvious tall story in Russian, yet translations do not convey correctly the sense of what he had written, and he did not complain to his foreign publishers when the $ started to roll in. In this affair, Novotich was a 19th century version of Beuval, Hancock, Stichin etc, and should be treated as such.


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Posted 04 November 2012 - 09:20 PM

View Postkmt_sesh, on 28 October 2012 - 03:44 AM, said:

Now that was a good laugh. Does comedy somewhat reflect reality in this case? :w00t:

If reality is only perception, it certainly does!  Be warned, It could be dangerous - to one's sanity - to to discuss this further.

For my own health I hope this post was off topic!  :wacko:


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Posted 06 November 2012 - 12:25 PM

Kind Of Interesting i gonna find that book secret life of jesus...

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 07:32 AM

View PostAtentutankh-pasheri, on 03 November 2012 - 09:38 AM, said:

Yet though it is tempting, given what Jesus is recorded as saying, to see some Buddhist influence, there is still no evidence that he was ever in Tibet or India, not one tiny shred even. Now, though there is also no physical evidence of Jesus being in Egypt during these lost years, it is far more believable that he may have been in Alexandria. Certainly there is no hard evidence, for or against, but surely commonsense dictates Egypt being a more likely place. I know the Jesus as Horus scenario generates a lot of hot air, yet can it all be nonsense? for at least a list of comparisons and circumstantial evidence can be presented for this case, unlike the total nonsense of the hoaxer Novotich. I told further up this thread that his book reads as an obvious tall story in Russian, yet translations do not convey correctly the sense of what he had written, and he did not complain to his foreign publishers when the $ started to roll in. In this affair, Novotich was a 19th century version of Beuval, Hancock, Stichin etc, and should be treated as such.
There is no definite physical evidence that Historical Jesus even existed.Your objections can apply to say almost 80% of mainstream history.In most cases historical facts are actually pure hypothesis.Say for example 'The Aryan Invasion/Migration theory' has absolutely nothing to support it,not even circumstantial evidence but is still heralded as a mainstream theory.
Though there is a lot of circumstantial evidence that Christianity is actually a continuation of Sun worship.





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