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[DoesntReallyLike]

Flibbertigibbet, on 20 April 2012 - 02:59 PM, said:

Ok thanks. Do the Democrats have a nickname?

I have a few but I won't share them because I hate women!  

[Tiggs]

tapirmusic, on 20 April 2012 - 09:15 PM, said:

You act as if getting abortions is something that "just happens" to all women all the time.

2% of women between the ages of 14 and 45 will have an abortion this year.

40% of Women in America during their lifetime will have had an abortion.

Forty percent.

Is that not a high enough potential death toll for you to call it a War?

Are you not entertained?

How many women need to die, exactly, before you'll call it a War?

Perhaps you could run us through the percentages of the overall female population that are killed during Muslim "honor" killings, Bride-kidnappings. Genital Mutilations and Forced Sex-Slavery.

Y'know. Those things that you'd quite happily classify as literally being Wars but don't actually involve military forces.

Edited by Tiggs, 20 April 2012 - 10:23 PM.

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Tiggs, on 20 April 2012 - 10:11 PM, said:

2% of women between the ages of 14 and 45 will have an abortion this year.

40% of Women in America during their lifetime will have had an abortion.

Forty percent.

Is that not a high enough potential death toll for you to call it a War?

Are you not entertained?

How many women need to die, exactly, before you'll call it a War?

Perhaps you could run us through the percentages of the overall female population that are killed during Muslim "honor" killings, Bride-kidnappings. Genital Mutilations and Forced Sex-Slavery.

Y'know. Those things that you'd quite happily classify as literally being Wars but don't involve military forces.

Do you have a source for that Tigg?  I never dreamed the number could be so high.  I was shocked at the 2% annual figure as well.

[tapirmusic]

Did I miss the part where GOP leaders are storming into homes accompanied by the military and forcing women to have unprotected sex?

[Farmer77]

I love it , one headline about a "war on women" and people are at each others throats. Never mind the wars in Afghanistan and Africa we're currently embroiled in, the massive national debt, the erosion of the constitution, a president who according to investigators couldn't even pass E-Verify, economies in the toilet, millions on welfare........but THIS is worth spending our time fighting over  

[Imaginarynumber1]

bigtroutak, on 20 April 2012 - 10:41 PM, said:

I love it , one headline about a "war on women" and people are at each others throats. Never mind the wars in Afghanistan and Africa we're currently embroiled in, the massive national debt, the erosion of the constitution, a president who according to investigators couldn't even pass E-Verify, economies in the toilet, millions on welfare........but THIS is worth spending our time fighting over  

That's right. Women's rights aren't important ant all........

[Farmer77]

Imaginarynumber1, on 20 April 2012 - 10:48 PM, said:

That's right. Women's rights aren't important ant all........

Of course they are, but they seem to become MORE important during an election year   ......must feel great to be used by the powers that be like that.

[Imaginarynumber1]

bigtroutak, on 20 April 2012 - 10:55 PM, said:

Of course they are, but they seem to become MORE important during an election year   ......must feel great to be used by the powers that be like that.

Everything becomes more important during an election year. That doesn't mean we should stop discussing things.
Some of the laws that have been voted on have been downright retarded.

[Michelle]

Not to mention, women make 74% to 77% on the dollar that men do. I don't see Dems or Pubs doing anything about that either.

[Tiggs]

and then, on 20 April 2012 - 10:23 PM, said:

Do you have a source for that Tigg?  I never dreamed the number could be so high.  I was shocked at the 2% annual figure as well.

The 2% annual figure is actually 1.96% currently - 19.6 per 1000 women according to Guttmacher:




The forty percent figure is from two differing studies by Stanley K. Henshaw for Guttmacher, with slightly different projections -  a 1992 study estimating 43% and a 2008 study estimating 35%.

I plead guilty to having taken some liberty with rounding for dramatic effect.

It should also be noted that if Abortion rates stay at the 2008 figure, Guttmacher calculate that only 30% of 18 year old's today are likely to have an abortion, so it's at least heading in the right direction.

[Tiggs]

tapirmusic, on 20 April 2012 - 10:28 PM, said:

Did I miss the part where GOP leaders are storming into homes accompanied by the military and forcing women to have unprotected sex?

Are the military involved in any of the other things that you're quite happy calling wars?

[Tiggs]

Michelle, on 20 April 2012 - 11:05 PM, said:

Not to mention, women make 74% to 77% on the dollar that men do. I don't see Dems or Pubs doing anything about that either.

Perhaps you missed Wisconsin's Equal Pay Enforcement Act getting repealed earlier this month.

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Tiggs, on 20 April 2012 - 11:23 PM, said:

Perhaps you missed Wisconsin's Equal Pay Enforcement Act getting repealed earlier this month.

And "surprisingly" there is an ® behind his name

[Flibbertigibbet]

Sorry, maybe I've missed something important here, but I find the idea that women's rights are somehow tied up with, and dependent, on being pro-abortion to be despicable.

[Michelle]

Tiggs, on 20 April 2012 - 11:23 PM, said:

Perhaps you missed Wisconsin's Equal Pay Enforcement Act getting repealed earlier this month.

http://www.unexplain...1

This one? I don't miss much and this is very important to me.

Unlike some people, I am not blind to what either party does.

Edited by Michelle, 20 April 2012 - 11:54 PM.