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[bmk1245]

Englishgent, on 21 April 2012 - 03:07 PM, said:

If this is the case, as one other poster has also mentioned, then I stand to be corrected and will happily apologise to the OP.  But the reason mainland lighthouses are blacked out on the landward side are obvious. To stop light polution and annoyance to nearby residents.

While you are correct in blacking out the lights, there are things called reflection/scattering: light from the actual source gets reflected from the glass around the source. You are a little bit into photography, you should be familiar with that (no pun intended, not to mention that I really enjoy photos you post on UM).

[booNyzarC]

zoser, on 21 April 2012 - 03:34 PM, said:

I must say that you are highly unlikely to get to the truth about these matters with such a fierce dismissive nature.  During the Rendlesham Forest incident one US military guy allegedly touched one of the small craft and sketched the symbols etched on it.   He felt the heat from the craft and his testimony was supported by colleagues; why would they lie?  How seriously have you investigated this case?

Of course this little detail didn't come out until years later (after hypnosis, or as I like to refer to it...  memory implantation...) and wasn't corroborated by his companion.  Oh drat.  Serious investigation indeed.

Englishgent, on 21 April 2012 - 03:37 PM, said:

Ok,...Thanks  Boony,  will dig deeper into it tomoz when I have time.
In the meantime, nighty night all. 'tis bedtime here

Sounds good mate.  Have a good sleep and don't get abducted!

[Flibbertigibbet]

zoser, on 21 April 2012 - 03:34 PM, said:

I must say that you are highly unlikely to get to the truth about these matters with such a fierce dismissive nature.  During the Rendlesham Forest incident one US military guy allegedly touched one of the small craft and sketched the symbols etched on it.   He felt the heat from the craft and his testimony was supported by colleagues; why would they lie?  How seriously have you investigated this case?

It seems he was in an altered state of consciousness. In other words, it was a hallucination or vision of some sort.

[Sky Scanner]

zoser, on 21 April 2012 - 03:34 PM, said:

I must say that you are highly unlikely to get to the truth about these matters with such a fierce dismissive nature.

To be fair, you're not going to get the truth about these cases, period. You could take just about any ufo case you like and find some earthly cause to it, simply because there is always something earthly going on. Meteor shower, plane, star, lighthouse, military toy, atmospheric phenomena, man with a torch, kamikaze hang glider doing the loop to loop..take your pick, you'll always find something....or you can think that people make excellent machines for recording data when faced with a perplexing situation, and choose that side of the fence.....it all depends what you're looking for!

In answer to the OP though...If you're just interested in the cases, without the need to attribute something to something that has insufficient evidence either way, then pretty much any thread by Karl12 is a great case...

[Oppono Astos]

Englishgent, on 21 April 2012 - 03:04 PM, said:

Hi Boony
I have read the link but have not got time to watch the video this evening.
I cannot see anything in the link other than one sentence refering to possible light from the lighthouse.
The lighthouse in question, which is situated a couple of ,miles from where the incident allegedly occured, has the landward side of the light window blacked out.  It has always been blacked out. Only seaward light is seen.

Sorry, you need to do some research on this one; this subject has been discussed a few times here on various Rendlesham threads.  Orford Ness lighthouse has a light-shield, but on a bearing of 302 degs; with the 'notches' in the shield, only 30 degs are fully blanked off - ie from 287 degs thru to 317 degs.  
Woodbridge's East Gate is 9km (not "a couple of miles") from the lighthouse on a bearing of 272 degs, the sweeping of the beam was/is viible from East Gate, the direct light was/is visible from the forest down to, and from, Capel Green.

A photo of the lighthouse is in this East Anglian Daily Times article, the light-shield is aligned with the track in the background - Googlemaps will confirm its direction.

Edited by Oppono Astos, 21 April 2012 - 06:12 PM.

[DONTEATUS]

I think everyone will agree the best UFO case will be the One where theres actually a Physical UFO to inspect ,maybe ride in  Meet the real occupants,Start a dialog with said Aliens,and learn how they got past what we are today.
That is without blasting everything thats in front of us we dont like ,and such.
Now thats the BEST UFO ever ! Afterall then it will become  for evermore a E.T. race of creatures and then a Known E.T Craft .
Simple isnt it ?

[SikFly]

Hazzard, on 21 April 2012 - 01:04 PM, said:

Hard to say in this day and age, with all the hoaxers, liers and the human mind beeing what it is, missidentifications, etc...

Personally I like the 1976 Tehran UFO incident.

Some researchers consider it strong evidence for the extraterrestrial origins of the UFO because there was a blackout on the F-4 just when it was going to fire and because of instrumental breakdowns on two different aircraft while they were on the chase. A military spy satellite also recorded this incident. The DSP-1 satellite detected an infrared anomaly during the time of this event that lasted for about an hour.

Radar detection, two F-4s going crazy, and a DSP detection of the whole thing. Nothing I would call scientific hard evidence that ET is visiting Earth, but it is one of those unexplained mysteries that we all (skeptics and believers) think about, and what keeps UFOology alive.


Its the what if,...?  

Agree. I would probably look more to the historical stories before there were cameras. So many stories have been faked since the camera's invention that its gotten way out of hand. Naturally there were plenty of liars since man walked the earth but in this day and age, its easier to discern ancient fairy tales from a more likely story in regards to unusual things in the sky or crash landings of sorts.

Personally, i think if any of the sort was real regarding Aliens, then it would be either blatantly obvious and impossible to cover up or completely invisable to us. You don't just go to another planet and interfere unless its a necessity. instead you would watch with your advanced technology without letting anyone being able to detect your observation. Failure to do so is extremely risky for you and the planet's inhabitants.

[Flibbertigibbet]

DONTEATUS, on 21 April 2012 - 06:51 PM, said:

I think everyone will agree the best UFO case will be the One where theres actually a Physical UFO to inspect ,maybe ride in  Meet the real occupants,Start a dialog with said Aliens,and learn how they got past what we are today.
That is without blasting everything thats in front of us we dont like ,and such.
Now thats the BEST UFO ever ! Afterall then it will become  for evermore a E.T. race of creatures and then a Known E.T Craft .
Simple isnt it ?

Which case is that?

[booNyzarC]

Flibbertigibbet, on 21 April 2012 - 11:06 PM, said:

Which case is that?

Tehrassweldsham.

[Macroramphosis]

SikFly, on 21 April 2012 - 06:52 PM, said:

Personally, i think if any of the sort was real regarding Aliens, then it would be either blatantly obvious and impossible to cover up or completely invisable to us. You don't just go to another planet and interfere unless its a necessity. instead you would watch with your advanced technology without letting anyone being able to detect your observation. Failure to do so is extremely risky for you and the planet's inhabitants.

In an improbable way, you're assuming only one race of aliens is visiting the world. If all the evidence over the course of history is correct, then we are being visited by a great many different craft, using different technologies, and in some cases, being piloted by very different beings. We should not expect them all to behave the same way, nor maintain human protocols.

[SolarPlexus]

Here are some off the top of my head
- The Battle of LA
- Stephenville, Texas
- Sufolk base 2010
- Jerusalem 2011

EDIT: Oh and the Tether incident..

Edited by SolarPlexus, 22 April 2012 - 12:41 AM.

[Englishgent]

Oppono Astos, on 21 April 2012 - 05:52 PM, said:

Sorry, you need to do some research on this one; this subject has been discussed a few times here on various Rendlesham threads.  Orford Ness lighthouse has a light-shield, but on a bearing of 302 degs; with the 'notches' in the shield, only 30 degs are fully blanked off - ie from 287 degs thru to 317 degs.  
Woodbridge's East Gate is 9km (not "a couple of miles") from the lighthouse on a bearing of 272 degs, the sweeping of the beam was/is viible from East Gate, the direct light was/is visible from the forest down to, and from, Capel Green.

A photo of the lighthouse is in this East Anglian Daily Times article, the light-shield is aligned with the track in the background - Googlemaps will confirm its direction.

Hi OA.
Thank you for this info. It would appear that I do in fact stand corrected and therefore I apologise to the OP for my original post
However, regarding this particular incident I doubt very much that the light from the lighthouse caused what was allegedly seen by the witnesses at the time. I know this incident has been debated at length in other threads so I am not trying to start another debate here.
As far as my own opinion is concerned,  I dont know what the witnesses saw exacrly, but it is certainly an interesting case and I dont think it was light, or reflections from the lighthouse .

[Englishgent]

bmk1245, on 21 April 2012 - 03:37 PM, said:

While you are correct in blacking out the lights, there are things called reflection/scattering: light from the actual source gets reflected from the glass around the source. You are a little bit into photography, you should be familiar with that (no pun intended, not to mention that I really enjoy photos you post on UM).

Hi bmk.
I agree that light could be reflected although the description of the lights allegedly seen at this incident would not fit the description of this type of light (IMO).
You are also correct that I am a little bit into photography. 'Little' being the important word here lol. It's merely a hobby, but I am pleased that you like my photographs. Thank you.

[Mentalcase]

booNyzarC, on 22 April 2012 - 12:01 AM, said:

Tehrassweldsham.

I was a witness in that incident. Life changing, traumatizing event.  

[booNyzarC]

Mentalcase, on 22 April 2012 - 01:58 AM, said:

I was a witness in that incident. Life changing, traumatizing event.  

Yes, it was quite the humdinger.  I'm shocked that you even survived.