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#16    DemosKratos

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Posted 28 April 2012 - 07:00 PM

View Postand then, on 28 April 2012 - 04:00 PM, said:

Wow, another supporter of the Mullahs...I'm shocked.  Thanks for the history lesson but friend it's the very children and grandchildren of the poor Iranians who were so grievously used that are protesting in the streets,when they can, to change the current bloody regime.  You are comparing a time when such behavior was common among world powers to today and it doesn't compare well..... so?  It's history and proving your people have good memories doesn't do much to improve their lot in life.  It wouldn't be possible for me to care less which government the people of Iran choose, that's their business.  But the IRGC likes to kill Americans and will pay a cumulative price for it one day I think, just as Iraqis did. If the mullahs get delusions of grandeur after they get spanked by tiny Israel then the USAF will leave the surviving IRGC members sleeping outdoors and not eating very well.  The mullahs are more afraid of the Iranians than they are of Israel or the US, and they SHOULD be :whistle:

I don't support the Mullahs. What I support is the idea that we should mind our own business in the world. What do you think these regimes use for justification when they do things that you don't approve of? Is it our freedom or is it the fact that we use drones to kill innocent people. Is it because we are not Islamic or is it because the sanctions we put on the country hurt the people of that country, not the government. Listen, I was in Iraq, I know what the Iranians were doing and I was not mad at them for it. I was mad at my government for using me and all my fellow soldiers on a war for profit. The leaders in Iran might be a lot of things but they are not stupid. They know that once we got into the region we were not leaving. Russia knows that military action against Iran is coming soon, they predict this summer. Can you blame Iran for wanting to take a toll on the United States knowing what is going to happen to them? I don't. I blame my governments foreign policy of abusing foreign countries for their financial gain.

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Posted 28 April 2012 - 07:19 PM

View Postand then, on 28 April 2012 - 03:38 PM, said:

Did you notice the video of the DEAD in the streets or take note of the hundreds imprisoned?

a difference in intensity not intent.

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  Do you really want to compare the deeds of a lunatic, despotic regime with the republican party?

there is no difference

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OWS was nothing more than a cobbled together street party that couldn't even agree on a specific list of grievances.

a list of grievances was not their intent - by design. Maybe you missed that.

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Their main tactic was to block business and create problems for people trying to work for a living.

Right because camping in parks blocks business. :whistle:  And a majority of protestors were working for a living.

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How dare you compare people risking their LIVES for a little freedom with a bunch of homeless and a few students blocking traffic while being paid by people //

Whose risking their lives? what people are you talking about? Republicans are risking their lives? That's funny. OWS was NOT a bunch of homeless students who blocked traffic. You are seriously misinformed.

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Posted 28 April 2012 - 07:32 PM

View PostHero of War, on 28 April 2012 - 07:00 PM, said:

I don't support the Mullahs. What I support is the idea that we should mind our own business in the world. What do you think these regimes use for justification when they do things that you don't approve of? Is it our freedom or is it the fact that we use drones to kill innocent people. Is it because we are not Islamic or is it because the sanctions we put on the country hurt the people of that country, not the government. Listen, I was in Iraq, I know what the Iranians were doing and I was not mad at them for it. I was mad at my government for using me and all my fellow soldiers on a war for profit. The leaders in Iran might be a lot of things but they are not stupid. They know that once we got into the region we were not leaving. Russia knows that military action against Iran is coming soon, they predict this summer. Can you blame Iran for wanting to take a toll on the United States knowing what is going to happen to them? I don't. I blame my governments foreign policy of abusing foreign countries for their financial gain.

And in my opinion we were minding our own business on 9/10/01.  But the true adherents of Muhammad's flavor of Islam decided that we needed sorting.  The world is what it is and those who attack my country deserve to be slaughtered in my opinion.  I don't agree with the lunacy that WAS Iraq but Iran having the ability to quickly assemble a nuke will be generally bad for business globally and if the only way to stop that is to pound the country into rubble every 6 months or so then I'm OK with that.  THEY ARE EVIL.  What their leaders do is EVIL.  EVIL is a reality in this world that needs to be named and fought.  And I think G.Bush was right - you're either with us or against us.

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Posted 28 April 2012 - 08:19 PM

Like bombing Sudan and Afghanistan? Like bombing Iraq and creating sanctions against the Iraqi people for the actions of their non-representative government? Like sending billions to Israel? Supporting the regime in Egypt? We did none of these things? Why don't you watch this video; it is Ron Paul talking about our foreign policy in 1998. The conclusion of the video is most interesting, it is an interview with Bin Laden.

If you choose to live in your bubble where America did/does no wrong, there is nothing I can do to help you, but there is a heck of a lot you are doing to hurt us and others by thinking that way.

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Posted 28 April 2012 - 08:24 PM

What our government does in the name of you and me is what I find evil.

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Posted 28 April 2012 - 09:08 PM

View PostHero of War, on 28 April 2012 - 08:24 PM, said:

What our government does in the name of you and me is what I find evil.

Then perhaps you should consider emigration?

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Posted 28 April 2012 - 09:29 PM

Is that your polite way of saying "If you don't love America than feel free to leave."? I would rather help to change what we are doing, leaving does not solve anything. Why is it so incomprehensible to you that bad things are being done by the government of your country? BTW, do you still feel like we were twiddling our thumbs on 9/10/11.

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