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A Plebiscite, Not an Election


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#1    Socio

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 12:24 AM

Good read;

http://www.nationalr...n-dennis-prager

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Election Day 2012 will not be a presidential election. It will be a plebiscite.
Americans will not only be voting for a president (and a House and a third of the Senate). They will be participating in a plebiscite on the definition of America.
If Americans reelect the Democrat, Barack Obama, they will have announced that America should be like Western European countries — governed by left-wing values. Americans will have decided that America’s value system — “Liberty,” “In God We Trust,” “E Pluribus Unum” — should be replaced.
The election in November is therefore a plebiscite on the American Revolution.

This article is right, this election is American Liberty vs European style socialism, it will be an IQ litmus test for voting America.

Common sense does not need a college degree" but will it prevail November, only time will tell.


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Posted 02 May 2012 - 12:49 AM

Hi Socio,    I read most of the article and the only thing I could think was this person is interjecting snippets here and there to try to factualize their own agenda.Also I don't for a minute believe that our current president is against Liberty!

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 01:13 AM

View PostRoyal, on 02 May 2012 - 12:49 AM, said:

Hi Socio, I read most of the article and the only thing I could think was this person is interjecting snippets here and there to try to factualize their own agenda

No question about that. But what most people dont know is, each side is just one side of the same coin. Both working together for the same goals, and for the same bank. There isnt really a left or a right once you climb the top of that pyramid.

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.Also I don't for a minute believe that our current president is against Liberty!

Have you been living under a rock Royal? This administration hates freedom in every way possible. You are talking about a man who openly proclaimed he has the right to detain indefinnitly anyone on this planet including US citizans, on US soil, with no due process what so ever. He can also torcher and or kill any US citizan he deems fit. My goodness  I could go on all day long about the freedoms this man has killed, and is openly trying to kill. He wipes his ass with the constitution.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 01:22 AM

View PostSocio, on 02 May 2012 - 12:24 AM, said:

Good read;

http://www.nationalr...n-dennis-prager



This article is right, this election is American Liberty vs European style socialism, it will be an IQ litmus test for voting America.

Common sense does not need a college degree" but will it prevail November, only time will tell.

Common sence has already long been thrown out the window, long before this election begins. Romney and 0bama are one. The only guy running in this race that wouldnt have bowed to the establishment is Ron Paul. But they made sure to pull out every trick in the book to make sure he didnt get the nomination, including out right voter fraud. Just ask yourself, and if you dont know do a little research, what is the difference between 0bama and Romney? If you want to save yourself some time, I'll tell you right now. There isnt any. The federal reserve owns this country, and both candidates are thier puppets. Same as every presidencial election there has been over the last 60 years (at least).

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 01:34 AM

I agree with preacherman in many respects but I will add that the republicans wanted that bill that gives the right to detain Americans.  That's why it was attached to the NDAA so Obama would have to sign it or bankrupt the military.  I still wished he hadn't signed it even if it meant abandoning military equipment everywhere and bringing our troops home.  I hope he veto's CISPA, the republicans are the ones pushing that.


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Posted 02 May 2012 - 01:43 AM

View PostHilander, on 02 May 2012 - 01:34 AM, said:

I agree with preacherman in many respects but I will add that the republicans wanted that bill that gives the right to detain Americans.  That's why it was attached to the NDAA so Obama would have to sign it or bankrupt the military.  I still wished he hadn't signed it even if it meant abandoning military equipment everywhere and bringing our troops home.  I hope he veto's CISPA, the republicans are the ones pushing that.

Hey Hilander

You are 100% right that republicans wanted NDAA. But make no mistake, so did 0bama. He just pretended he didnt. Back in 09 he was calling openly for the same exact thing.



And he has the luxury to claim he doesnt think CISPA is a good idea, but he is  lieing. He will sign it, cause he wants it. Or I should say his masters want it.

Edited by preacherman76, 02 May 2012 - 01:48 AM.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 01:47 AM

Get this straight, there is no republicans and democrats. Its a game to keep we the people divided, so we point the finger at each other, instead of all of them, the real criminals. Its like watching professional wreasling. They arent really against each other at all. Think about it. If there was, the republicans would have called out 0bama when he said he would never detain a America with no due process. Especialy considering it was just a short time ago, he was trying to sell the same concept to the American people.

Edited by preacherman76, 02 May 2012 - 01:51 AM.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 02:08 AM

PM76 and I dissagree more often then not but he is dead on in what he has said so far. Being rather interested in American politics I have over the years educated myself on the so called democratic practices in the US and it`s not a democracy it`s a republic more akin to the Roman Empire of old if you will.  Ron Paul was the only canidate that would have made a difference and could have possibly helped restore some of the US`s prouder days.

The United States government has sold out the people now the people must use the constitution to take it back. Being owned by a bank is no different then being owned or ran by a monarchy.

Edited by The Silver Thong, 02 May 2012 - 02:09 AM.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 02:54 AM

I would have replied sooner but I was digging out from under my rock. It sounds to me like everyone is jumping on this "we're powerless to do anything about our situation because Mr. BIG is running the world" bandwagon. Well, I'm not giving up, nothing is over till we decide it is....was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 03:02 AM

View PostRoyal, on 02 May 2012 - 02:54 AM, said:

I would have replied sooner but I was digging out from under my rock. It sounds to me like everyone is jumping on this "we're powerless to do anything about our situation because Mr. BIG is running the world" bandwagon. Well, I'm not giving up, nothing is over till we decide it is....was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

Ummm you should really  read your posts before people like me can quote them LOL

Oh and ya the American people are powerless to change the 2 party system as it is.

Edited by The Silver Thong, 02 May 2012 - 03:04 AM.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 09:19 AM

View PostRoyal, on 02 May 2012 - 02:54 AM, said:

I would have replied sooner but I was digging out from under my rock. It sounds to me like everyone is jumping on this "we're powerless to do anything about our situation because Mr. BIG is running the world" bandwagon. Well, I'm not giving up, nothing is over till we decide it is....was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

Sorry about the rock thing, it was uncalled for.

I dont think we are powerless. Nor do I intend to give up either. Its why im speaking to you about it right now. In fact on paper its really easy to restore this republic. This is a war of information. If everyone understood what was going on, this consolidation of power would be over in one election cycle. But so long as the people remain ignorant this will be impossible to stop. So long as people continue to follow the left right paradigm, the bank will rule this country. If you think voting for either one of the two clowns they put before us in anyway brings a change, you are saddly mistaken.

Guess who is the top political donor to both Romney and 0bama. Goldman sacks. That alone should tell you all you need to know about both these treasonist globalist scum.

Edit to add- Germany didnt bomb pearl harbor. Japan did.

Edited by preacherman76, 02 May 2012 - 09:43 AM.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 10:24 AM

View PostThe Silver Thong, on 02 May 2012 - 02:08 AM, said:

PM76 and I dissagree more often then not but he is dead on in what he has said so far. Being rather interested in American politics I have over the years educated myself on the so called democratic practices in the US and it`s not a democracy it`s a republic more akin to the Roman Empire of old if you will.  Ron Paul was the only canidate that would have made a difference and could have possibly helped restore some of the US`s prouder days.

The United States government has sold out the people now the people must use the constitution to take it back. Being owned by a bank is no different then being owned or ran by a monarchy.

Yea, to my surprize Ive noticed a big change in your political views over the last  year or so. Then when you endorced Ron Paul as soon as he anounced he was running, I knew you had fully passed over to the good side of the force. :tu:

Edited by preacherman76, 02 May 2012 - 10:26 AM.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 10:49 AM

You make good points preacherman, I can't disagree with you totally. Also the Germany thing was a joke..... I thought everybody had seen "Animal House".

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 12:07 PM

View PostRoyal, on 02 May 2012 - 12:49 AM, said:

Hi Socio, I read most of the article and the only thing I could think was this person is interjecting snippets here and there to try to factualize their own agenda.Also I don't for a minute believe that our current president is against Liberty!


Here is 20 reasons he is a socialist (anti-Liberty);




Your relationships, whether good or bad, are a reflection of you, Obama's relationships speak volumes about him.

If you really don't think he is then see if you can find 20 reasons why he is not.


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Posted 02 May 2012 - 12:35 PM

View PostRoyal, on 02 May 2012 - 10:49 AM, said:

You make good points preacherman, I can't disagree with you totally. Also the Germany thing was a joke..... I thought everybody had seen "Animal House".

LOL, my bad. Humor escapes me sometimes. I did see animal house, but it was along time ago.

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