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#76    _Only

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 07:33 PM

View PostPurifier, on 11 May 2012 - 05:00 PM, said:

WHAT?! And miss out on final world peace sometime in the future! Oh no, no, no, we gotta see if that delusional dream comes about first before we call for the end of the world, man.

Where's your self-imposed optimism for godsakes?

How dare they even entertain such delusions.

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 03:32 PM

View PostMichelle, on 10 May 2012 - 10:13 PM, said:

"Nearly 15 percent of people worldwide believe the world will end during their lifetime"

How did this become about Americans again? :unsure2:


Just to clarify for those who were concerned when my late night responses wound up in another threat somehow (got me.. :unsure2: .!).


16% of the population would imply roughly 50 million Americans.

Not wanting to single out 50 million Americans with the distinction of beleiving in this sort of crap( I have no pride in that distinction), I'll state that this implies a billion people world wide share in this delusion.
That's a distressing number of people.  For every believer in the United States, there are 20 someplace else in the world.


...egad :cry:  

But--the good news is that this figure implies that there are approximately 6 billion people in the world that do not believe the end of the  world is  imminent (i.e., "coming".).


Yay! :clap:


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Posted 16 May 2012 - 01:56 AM

this is gonna be like Independence Day movie again where aliens try to take over the earth but fail cuz of Smith


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Posted 16 May 2012 - 01:47 PM

I don't think one has to follow the Mayan calendar to recognize the trouble the world is in. I mean, each day we wake to see news that forces us to wonder how we got in this handbasket and why are we going to hell.


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Posted 16 May 2012 - 03:33 PM

I have pndered this phenomena and my personal opinion is that this group of people can be separated into a few different philosopies/camps.

1) The religous believers.  It doesn't matter if it's Christianity, Judaism or Islam, they believe the world has decended into such wickedness, debauchery and genuine evil that it must be destroyed and cleansed.  They see the fulfillment of prophecy in the headlines of each new day and nothing is going to convince them otherwise.  Their texts were so cleverly written as to seemingly appear to each age or century that it can be and has been "expected" for thousands of years.

2) The new age thinkers.  They also believe man has become so predatory to his fellow man that there "must" be a change of direction or consciousness or we are doomed to destroy ourselves.  They pull on ancient prophecy and legend from a plethora of cultures as justification for their ideas and to them, each new "anomaly" or "Unusual phenomena" gives credence their position.

3) The Hopeless.  Sadly, there is a group of people out there have just given up on hope and positive change.  They see the world as being completely out of their control or influence...that their very lives are no longer in their hands and they have become as a leaf in the wind.  They look at the world and think that the "powers that be" are not going to suddenly change their ways.  They are not going to step up and say "we have been doing this wrong all along and now we are going to make the world right for all mankind".  These people (the hopeless) just want it to end because short of one of the first two things occuring, only cataclysm and a slap back to the stone age is going to correct the paths we have chosen over the millenia our species has been advancing.  They are miserable and find nothing to look forward to tomorrow except continuing struggle, suffering and hardship.

I personally would like to see the world made into a more "user friendly" place.  Though I have hope that as more people study philosophy and seek to understand what makes people do the things they do... that at some point, our technology and our collective goals to be better will merge.  Maybe I am the one who is delusional....hard to say.

I don't believe the world is ending...though I do agree that change is needed.  I feel like the political-economic path we as a country and as a world is on is totally unsustainable and we either fix it or IT WILL collapse.  That collapse might spawn wars, famine, disease, or all three and we might very well get smacked back to the stone age and have no choice but to start over when all of our electronic intellect is lost and no longer works.

Just my opinions though.  Fascinating topic of study and discussion as it brings several things into the conversation...religion, politics, science and philosophy...great thread!

Edited by Damrod, 16 May 2012 - 03:33 PM.


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Posted 16 May 2012 - 08:07 PM

View PostDamrod, on 16 May 2012 - 03:33 PM, said:

Fascinating topic of study and discussion as it brings several things into the conversation...religion, politics, science and philosophy...great thread!

I agree. If more would have that viewpoint, beyond the obvious "the end is nigh" or "I can't wait for this nonsense to end on December 22nd", some great discussion can happen.

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 07:32 PM

my lifetime? i doubt it.


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Posted 19 May 2012 - 04:50 PM

View PostRedoubt, on 16 May 2012 - 01:47 PM, said:

I don't think one has to follow the Mayan calendar to recognize the trouble the world is in. I mean, each day we wake to see news that forces us to wonder how we got in this handbasket and why are we going to hell.

Where is this "hell" you speak of?


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Posted 19 May 2012 - 04:55 PM

View Postcsspwns, on 16 May 2012 - 01:56 AM, said:

this is gonna be like Independence Day movie again where aliens try to take over the earth but fail cuz of Smith

It's actually going to be like 2000.
Just as folks woke up on 1-1-2000 and suddenly realized that the hype put forth didn't happen.  Indeed, little was going on that morning, save many folks would later wake up with a terrible headache and hang over.

On 12-22-12, folks will wake up similarly...and possibly gullible  believers will have a hangover and headache (they may have been imbibing heavily to dull the pain of their impending doom!).

Distressingly, that could be 40-50 million Americans, and..

...a billion drunken hung over folks world wide!
Amazing, isn't it?

Edited by MID, 19 May 2012 - 04:57 PM.


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Posted 19 May 2012 - 05:12 PM

I'm looking forward to what'll be sold on ebay, since I missed out on the sales in 2000.

But seriously, this does concern me, makesme woder how the percentage is spread out. it's probably heaver in some countries than others.

I know many of the people I meet here in the bible belt expect Jesus to return with their lifetime. I think the expected to date is 2050.
  I don't see how it's expected that plans can be made for the long term future with such a significant percentage.


Anyway, I love the avatar MID.

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Posted 19 May 2012 - 05:37 PM

View PostRedoubt, on 16 May 2012 - 01:47 PM, said:

I don't think one has to follow the Mayan calendar to recognize the trouble the world is in. I mean, each day we wake to see news that forces us to wonder how we got in this handbasket and why are we going to hell.
Turn it off if you want it to be like the good ol' days.


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Posted 19 May 2012 - 06:25 PM

View PostShadowSot, on 19 May 2012 - 05:12 PM, said:

I'm looking forward to what'll be sold on ebay, since I missed out on the sales in 2000.

But seriously, this does concern me, makesme woder how the percentage is spread out. it's probably heaver in some countries than others.

I know many of the people I meet here in the bible belt expect Jesus to return with their lifetime. I think the expected to date is 2050.
  I don't see how it's expected that plans can be made for the long term future with such a significant percentage.


Anyway, I love the avatar MID.





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Edited by MID, 19 May 2012 - 06:25 PM.


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Posted 19 May 2012 - 06:40 PM

View PostMID, on 19 May 2012 - 04:50 PM, said:

Where is this "hell" you speak of?

The mind.

Perception.

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Posted 19 May 2012 - 07:22 PM

View Post_Only, on 19 May 2012 - 06:40 PM, said:

The mind.

Perception.

I would tend to agree, in the presence of a complete sentence.
However, I asked Redoubt the question.


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Posted 19 May 2012 - 07:42 PM

View PostRedoubt, on 16 May 2012 - 01:47 PM, said:

I don't think one has to follow the Mayan calendar to recognize the trouble the world is in. I mean, each day we wake to see news that forces us to wonder how we got in this handbasket and why are we going to hell.

Yea because the past is so full of joy and peace...

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