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[third_eye]

I'd like to know the fella that thought of making a clock go "cuckoo" or "cookoo" every hour ... depending on what language you're comfortable with

frankly I like the ones that go "boing" or "gong"

I'm a traditionalist ... if it was good enough for a good thousand years then its more than good enough for me, I like the ones with someone actually banging the the things that go "boing" and "gong" best, damn machines makes such a puny sound ... "biong" is just not the same as"boing"
so is "guung" as a matter of fact, "gong" really gets the blood pumping ... the ancients knows their stuff they do

[jmccr8]

Hello Questionmark and Oniomancer,

Thanks to both of you for your additional posts and links.It does re-inforce what I seem to remember from past reading in other threads about the hardness of copper and bronze and the alloys used.The pics of the tools is helpful indeed,and yes some tools have not changed so terribly much since then.Just running off to work so I will stop by later and see what other gems get polished today.Thanks and best wishes.jmccr8

[Oniomancer]

Time to post this again:

http://www.videopedi...ire-Part-3-of-6

[the L]

Onionmancer,

It could be but its very streched. Especially last multiple cornered example. Some of the stone puzzles are heavier then 20 t. Last part with wooden sticks is silly. How would you place those wooden sticks without hill and more wall height and on cliffs. Is there any archaeological find that back this up, as plummet?

[questionmark]

Oniomancer, on 19 May 2012 - 04:14 AM, said:

Time to post this again:

http://www.videopedi...ire-Part-3-of-6

Now lets see what inanity some will use to deny that what they saw happened.....

[Abramelin]

questionmark, on 19 May 2012 - 07:29 AM, said:

Now lets see what inanity some will use to deny that what they saw happened.....

I watched the video, and at the moment they said something like, "what about a 25 tons boulder", the video stopped, lol.



Maybe it's in part 4, and where can we watch that part 4?

.++

EDIT:

Ah, here it is:

http://www.videopedi...ire-Part-4-of-6

And no 25 tons boulder.

Here's a transcript of the complete documentary:

http://www.pbs.org/w...s/2404inca.html

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Edited by Abramelin, 19 May 2012 - 08:06 AM.

[Banksy Boy]

And a response.

http://davidpratt.info/andes2.htm#a1

[questionmark]

didn't take long, did it?

[Oniomancer]

Banksy Boy, on 19 May 2012 - 08:46 AM, said:

And a response.

http://davidpratt.info/andes2.htm#a1

He's not exactly soundly thrashing Protzen's arguments there.  He's not helping his own by quoting Davidovit's since-discredited evidence or sources like Blavatsky of all people either.

Some of his other points and citations are questionable too. For example he makes an issue of rhyolite but fails to mention that it's also a fine grained extrusive rock with properties similar to andesite, including potential knappability, even referring to it erroneously as "rose granite".  He also cites a comment about trachyte not being splittable. It didn't take me long to find almost a half-dozen mentions of varieties of trachyte that do indeed split into thin units, which at least calls into question the nature of that discussed and therefore it's relevance.
On the veracity of the legendary record, I'll also admit to being a bit curious how even a 20x15x3' stone getting loose on a steep traverse could manage to kill 3-4 thousand people. You'd think it would've ground to a halt after piling up against the first couple hundred or so.

[questionmark]

Oniomancer, on 20 May 2012 - 03:28 AM, said:

He's not exactly soundly thrashing Protzen's arguments there.  He's not helping his own by quoting Davidovit's since-discredited evidence or sources like Blavatsky of all people either.

Some of his other points and citations are questionable too. For example he makes an issue of rhyolite but fails to mention that it's also a fine grained extrusive rock with properties similar to andesite, including potential knappability, even referring to it erroneously as "rose granite".  He also cites a comment about trachyte not being splittable. It didn't take me long to find almost a half-dozen mentions of varieties of trachyte that do indeed split into thin units, which at least calls into question the nature of that discussed and therefore it's relevance.
On the veracity of the legendary record, I'll also admit to being a bit curious how even a 20x15x3' stone getting loose on a steep traverse could manage to kill 3-4 thousand people. You'd think it would've ground to a halt after piling up against the first couple hundred or so.

The problem with exploiting the gullibility of some is that some don't even bother to check the claims. Worked for the Guild of Quacks for a few thousand years and most probably will for the next few thousand, to quote Russel: People rather die than think. And to quote me: People die because of their refusal to learn anything.

[Oniomancer]

questionmark, on 20 May 2012 - 06:51 AM, said:

The problem with exploiting the gullibility of some is that some don't even bother to check the claims. Worked for the Guild of Quacks for a few thousand years and most probably will for the next few thousand, to quote Russel: People rather die than think. And to quote me: People die because of their refusal to learn anything.

Yep. for instance I got a little confused and he actually called it red granite and rose rhyolite. See how easy it is?

[questionmark]

Coming back to a lathe: here is another example of how it can be done with the simplest means:

[the L]

questionmark, on 21 May 2012 - 03:08 PM, said:

Coming back to a lathe: here is another example of how it can be done with the simplest means:

I hate to be negative but you do realize that its a wood in that clip?
I can see where you going but thats not to way to create those vases. If it is let me see one recreated vase.
We are going into circles.

[questionmark]

the L, on 21 May 2012 - 07:42 PM, said:

I hate to be negative but you do realize that its a wood in that clip?
I can see where you going but thats not to way to create those vases. If it is let me see one recreated vase.
We are going into circles.

I don't care about your vase, I am tired of getting suckered up in discussion that are one sided with one party sticking the fingers in his/her ear squealing as loud as he can "lalala can't hear you".

[the L]

questionmark, on 21 May 2012 - 07:51 PM, said:

I don't care about your vase, I am tired of getting suckered up in discussion that are one sided with one party sticking the fingers in his/her ear squealing as loud as he can "lalala can't hear you".

Then its best for you to move your fingers from the ears.


I don't care about your vase,...sticking the fingers in his ear

Edited by the L, 21 May 2012 - 08:50 PM.