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#1    Bella-Angelique

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 05:57 PM

Steven King vents his fury and frustration over the current political situation in the USA involving the wealth gap and taxes of the 1%.
Warns of apocalyptic scenario if the situation is not addressed correctly.

http://www.thedailyb...r-f-s-sake.html

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 06:12 PM

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 06:22 PM

Finally, somebody has the guts to say it!

I want you to go to Stephen King's house, stand outside his gate, and don't leave until you get the whole 50% he owes! :angry:


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Posted 04 May 2012 - 06:28 PM

View PostCainiac999, on 04 May 2012 - 06:22 PM, said:

Finally, somebody has the guts to say it!

I want you to go to Stephen King's house, stand outside his gate, and don't leave until you get the whole 50% he owes! :angry:

50% is a little exteme but he has a point about rich people.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 07:00 PM

Until all these Liberal blowhards give all but the amount necessary to keep them above the poverty line to the US government I will continue to blissfully disregard their stupid rants.

The government only cares that you pay the MINIMUM you owe, if you want to send them more they will happily accept it, but yet, all of those Hollyweird idiots live in gated communities, ride around in gas-guzzling SUVs and limousines, eat at exclusive rstaurants, and hire teams of accountants to make sure they don't pay one penny more than the absolute minimum.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 07:04 PM

View PostIamsSon, on 04 May 2012 - 07:00 PM, said:

Until all these Liberal blowhards give all but the amount necessary to keep them above the poverty line to the US government I will continue to blissfully disregard their stupid rants.

The government only cares that you pay the MINIMUM you owe, if you want to send them more they will happily accept it, but yet, all of those Hollyweird idiots live in gated communities, ride around in gas-guzzling SUVs and limousines, eat at exclusive rstaurants, and hire teams of accountants to make sure they don't pay one penny more than the absolute minimum.

Yeah, good point...their point is worthless unless they themselves live in damn near poverty. Curse those liberals and their education!

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 07:20 PM

View PostIamsSon, on 04 May 2012 - 07:00 PM, said:

Until all these Liberal blowhards give all but the amount necessary to keep them above the poverty line to the US government I will continue to blissfully disregard their stupid rants.

The government only cares that you pay the MINIMUM you owe, if you want to send them more they will happily accept it, but yet, all of those Hollyweird idiots live in gated communities, ride around in gas-guzzling SUVs and limousines, eat at exclusive rstaurants, and hire teams of accountants to make sure they don't pay one penny more than the absolute minimum.

THIS is why I think FairTax is a great idea.


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Posted 05 May 2012 - 10:21 AM

We have a government that spends and owes more money then we could ever hope to pay, even if they took every single cent from  the rich, middle class and the poor. And people are dumb enough to think the problem can be solved by raising the taxes on the rich (who already pay a absurd amount of taxes). Its like putting a bandaid on a tumor. The only way outta this mess is to cut spending in a massive way. The amount of money people pay in taxes isnt the problem. Our government thinking we can provide a blank check for them is the problem.

Edited by preacherman76, 05 May 2012 - 10:23 AM.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 01:17 PM

View Postpreacherman76, on 05 May 2012 - 10:21 AM, said:

We have a government that spends and owes more money then we could ever hope to pay, even if they took every single cent from  the rich, middle class and the poor. And people are dumb enough to think the problem can be solved by raising the taxes on the rich (who already pay a absurd amount of taxes). Its like putting a bandaid on a tumor. The only way outta this mess is to cut spending in a massive way. The amount of money people pay in taxes isnt the problem. Our government thinking we can provide a blank check for them is the problem.

The problem is that American really does not care what its debt is. The U.S. spends more on their military than like the next top 5 countries combined. I see the convo going like this...

China: Hey America, we want the money you owe us.
U.S.: Okay...
China: You owe us trillions!
U.S.: Do something about it...

This will not change until there is some type of pressure put on the U.S.

Edited by HuttonEtAl, 05 May 2012 - 01:17 PM.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 02:19 PM

View Postpreacherman76, on 05 May 2012 - 10:21 AM, said:

We have a government that spends and owes more money then we could ever hope to pay, even if they took every single cent from  the rich, middle class and the poor. And people are dumb enough to think the problem can be solved by raising the taxes on the rich (who already pay a absurd amount of taxes). Its like putting a bandaid on a tumor. The only way outta this mess is to cut spending in a massive way. The amount of money people pay in taxes isnt the problem. Our government thinking we can provide a blank check for them is the problem.
The fair share crap has never been about fixing the problem because it can't. It's straight up class warfare. Plain and simple. Does anyone here really believe it is anything but? If so, what problem will it fix besides sticking it to the man? Which btw is an absurdly un-American value. Confiscate all the wealthys wealth and a small temporary dent is made in the national debt. What happens after that?

Edited by Is it for real, 05 May 2012 - 02:20 PM.


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Posted 05 May 2012 - 02:26 PM

View PostHuttonEtAl, on 04 May 2012 - 07:04 PM, said:

Yeah, good point...their point is worthless unless they themselves live in damn near poverty. Curse those liberals and their education!
It's not their "education" that;s the problem, it's their hypocrisy and sense of entitlement.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 02:32 PM

View PostIamsSon, on 05 May 2012 - 02:26 PM, said:

It's not their "education" that;s the problem, it's their hypocrisy and sense of entitlement.

You sir, have a sense of entitlement defined by hypocrisy...

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 02:40 PM

View PostHuttonEtAl, on 05 May 2012 - 01:17 PM, said:

The problem is that American really does not care what its debt is. The U.S. spends more on their military than like the next top 5 countries combined. I see the convo going like this...

China: Hey America, we want the money you owe us.
U.S.: Okay...
China: You owe us trillions!
U.S.: Do something about it...

This will not change until there is some type of pressure put on the U.S.
Actually the conversation has been going like this for the last 70 years.

World: "U.S., we have been blissfully ignoring the danger building around us and now are incapable of defending ourselves."
U.S.: "Here let me lend you equipment and funds so you can."
World: "Thank you, U.S.!"
World:   "Hey, U.S. can you please forgive the debt?  We need to reconstruct."
U.S.:  "OK, we want democracy to succeed so we will do this."
World:  "Hey, U.S. can you fund the majority of an organization which will serve to bring democracy to the world?"
U.S.: "Sure, I will even provide a headquarters building in New York!"
World:  "Hey, U.S. you know all that damage you caused while getting our butts out of the sling we put it in?  Well, you need to pay up for that!"


Sometime soon I hope we will finally say, "Hey, world, here's the bill for policing your messes for the last 70 years... and oh, yeah, you have 24 hours to vacate New York."

View PostHuttonEtAl, on 05 May 2012 - 02:32 PM, said:

You sir, have a sense of entitlement defined by hypocrisy...
:lol:

Give me a break.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 02:50 PM

View PostIamsSon, on 05 May 2012 - 02:40 PM, said:

Actually the conversation has been going like this for the last 70 years.

World: "U.S., we have been blissfully ignoring the danger building around us and now are incapable of defending ourselves."
U.S.: "Here let me lend you equipment and funds so you can."
World: "Thank you, U.S.!"
World:   "Hey, U.S. can you please forgive the debt?  We need to reconstruct."
U.S.:  "OK, we want democracy to succeed so we will do this."
World:  "Hey, U.S. can you fund the majority of an organization which will serve to bring democracy to the world?"
U.S.: "Sure, I will even provide a headquarters building in New York!"
World:  "Hey, U.S. you know all that damage you caused while getting our butts out of the sling we put it in?  Well, you need to pay up for that!"


Sometime soon I hope we will finally say, "Hey, world, here's the bill for policing your messes for the last 70 years... and oh, yeah, you have 24 hours to vacate New York."

:lol:

Give me a break.

You do a good job of turning the argument into something else. Why do you think for one second that I support funding other countries war debts, or that I even agree with the philosophy of the U.S. government? If you think I feel democracy is superior, you know nothing about me.

Continue to laugh. Check out my response to you in my blog post. You think you are brilliant, you are not. You know nothing about the majority of the people in this country or this world, but you have all of the answers. I mean you reject evolution, which is a scientific fact. I strongly question your ability to reason through something because to deny evolution is to deny the fact that the earth revolves around the sun. I mean I have never personally seen it happen, but I accept the evidence…

Edited by HuttonEtAl, 05 May 2012 - 02:52 PM.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 03:10 PM

View PostHuttonEtAl, on 05 May 2012 - 02:50 PM, said:

You do a good job of turning the argument into something else. Why do you think for one second that I support funding other countries war debts, or that I even agree with the philosophy of the U.S. government? If you think I feel democracy is superior, you know nothing about me.

Continue to laugh. Check out my response to you in my blog post. You think you are brilliant, you are not. You know nothing about the majority of the people in this country or this world, but you have all of the answers. I mean you reject evolution, which is a scientific fact. I strongly question your ability to reason through something because to deny evolution is to deny the fact that the earth revolves around the sun. I mean I have never personally seen it happen, but I accept the evidence…
Ahh, ad hominem: "A debater commits the Ad Hominem Fallacy when he introduces irrelevant personal premisses about his opponent. Such red herrings may successfully distract the opponent or the audience from the topic of the debate."


I made no suggestion regarding your feelings about democracy, your blog makes it palin you believe a strong government with powerless victims for citizens is the way to go.

I understand that it's significantly easier to attempt to disparage my intellect or reasoning abilities than it is to develop a logical counterargument.

Enjoy your fantasy.

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