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#1    Goodnite

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 07:09 PM

In 2005, the U.S. Government Accountability Office found that up to 3 percent of the 30,000 individuals called for jury duty from voter registration rolls over a two-year period in just one U.S. district court were not U.S. citizens. While that may not seem like many, just 3 percent of registered voters would have been more than enough to provide the winning presiden­tial vote margin in Florida in 2000. Indeed, the Cen­sus Bureau estimates that there are over a million illegal aliens in Florida, and the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) has prosecuted more non-citizen voting cases in Florida than in any other state.

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 07:22 PM

Well, they're also getting a ton back in income tax refunds, yet nothing is done. :td:

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 07:37 PM

View PostOffeiriad, on 08 May 2012 - 07:22 PM, said:

Well, they're also getting a ton back in income tax refunds, yet nothing is done. :td:


Exactly......I gave up along time ago, I am close to where I will not pay taxes and just go to jail....

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 08:03 PM

View PostGoodnite, on 08 May 2012 - 07:09 PM, said:

In 2005, the U.S. Government Accountability Office found that up to 3 percent of the 30,000 individuals called for jury duty from voter registration rolls over a two-year period in just one U.S. district court were not U.S. citizens. While that may not seem like many, just 3 percent of registered voters would have been more than enough to provide the winning presiden­tial vote margin in Florida in 2000. Indeed, the Cen­sus Bureau estimates that there are over a million illegal aliens in Florida, and the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) has prosecuted more non-citizen voting cases in Florida than in any other state.

http://www.thecuttin...php?article=691

All we can do is write our locale congressman and relay our concerns. This is not good. A lot of things that have come up the last ten years is eroding our US life of freedom and trust.

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 02:55 PM

Been there, done that, and got a virtual pat on the head and a "hey thanks for writing" so I don't put much stock in my opinion mattering anywhere to anyone.

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 03:45 PM

View PostGoodnite, on 08 May 2012 - 07:09 PM, said:

In 2005, the U.S. Government Accountability Office found that up to 3 percent of the 30,000 individuals called for jury duty from voter registration rolls over a two-year period in just one U.S. district court were not U.S. citizens. While that may not seem like many, just 3 percent of registered voters would have been more than enough to provide the winning presiden­tial vote margin in Florida in 2000. Indeed, the Cen­sus Bureau estimates that there are over a million illegal aliens in Florida, and the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) has prosecuted more non-citizen voting cases in Florida than in any other state.

http://www.thecuttin...php?article=691

They could have voted for gore... I mean republicons are more likely to throw illegal immigrants out

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 03:55 PM

In any case, was there not the old maxim: No taxation without representation? I fail to see that anybody screaming here wanting those same people not to pay taxes....
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Posted 09 May 2012 - 04:28 PM

So, even if every state passed a Voter ID law requiring photo ID in order to vote, we would still have as many as 3% of voters who were not U.S. citizens.

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 06:58 PM

View PostOffeiriad, on 08 May 2012 - 07:22 PM, said:

Well, they're also getting a ton back in income tax refunds, yet nothing is done. :td:
When is enough enough?!  It's time for revolt.  Change your W4 to 99 dependants.  You'll get all your money.  Then on tax day, simply don't pay.  Grab your Guy Fawkes mask and take to the streets.  If you could get the numbers into the millions, the government could not respond.  This would not be anarchy, for that is what we have now.  I know that is a pipe dream, but what if...

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 07:16 PM

Illegal alien migration into the United States costs American taxpayers $346 billion annually reported by the National Research Council. While employers of illegal aliens rake-in billions of dollars, the US citizens subsidize what may be called organized "Slavery in 21st Century America."

While Congress facilitates outsourcing, insourcing and offshoring of American jobs by the thousands weekly, that same Congress imports 182,000 legal immigrant monthly who need jobs. Another estimated 100,000 illegal aliens arrive each month without jobs. All those immigrants seize jobs from American citizens at slave wages.

What happens to the American taxpayer?

"Immigrants are poorer, pay less tax, and are more likely to receive public benefits than American citizens," said Edwin Rubenstein, reporting on the National Research Council's new book: "The New Americans: Economic, Demographics and Fiscal Effects of Immigration." The Social Contract Winter 2007-08. <http://www.thesoical...calcontract.com

The NRC found that the average immigrant household receives $13,326 in federal welfare and pays $10,664.00 in federal taxes. Thus, American taxpayers shell out $2,682.00 for each immigrant household.

In addition, the report showed that immigrants affect 15 different executive agencies of the U.S. government.

Earned Income Tax Credit-fraud is rampant and IRS does little to verify existence of children. Clean Air and Climate Change-these goals are unattainable as long as US population grows-driven by unending immigration. Emergency medical treatment-US taxpayer money provides $250 million a year to help hospitals defray costs for illegal aliens. Bureau of Land Management-the Interior Department spends $1 million to mitigate environmental damage done by illegals crossing US southern border. Migrant educational grants-intended to help states educate children of illegal workers. More fraud from over-counting. Office of Foreign Labor Certification-immigrant workers depress wages for US citizens resulting in declines in federal revenues at $100 billion annually.

As shown on CBS with Katie Couric this past week, 300,000 pregnant Mexican women cross the border to birth their babies, known as 'anchor babies', in American hospitals at an average cost of $6,000.00 per birth with no complications. If the child suffers heart defects, Downs Syndrome, Autism or any other problems, the costs jump to $500,000.00 with long term care into the millions of dollars. All footed by the America taxpayer!

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 07:51 PM

View PostIamsSon, on 09 May 2012 - 04:28 PM, said:

So, even if every state passed a Voter ID law requiring photo ID in order to vote, we would still have as many as 3% of voters who were not U.S. citizens.

It will still make it harder for them thus no doubt the real reason Democrats are against those ID's in the first place.


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Posted 09 May 2012 - 07:53 PM

Vter ID laws will help but they must be thoroughly enforced and if the false voter is found to be illegal they should be sentback to their home country immediately, no ifs and or buts.  That would discourage them from trying to vote.

Edited by Merc14, 09 May 2012 - 08:00 PM.

Nice midterms democrats.  As Pelosi says, "Embrace the suck".

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 01:13 PM

View PostParacelse, on 09 May 2012 - 03:45 PM, said:

They could have voted for gore... I mean republicons are more likely to throw illegal immigrants out

Right. :rolleyes:

Edited by FurthurBB, 10 May 2012 - 01:13 PM.


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Posted 10 May 2012 - 07:32 PM

View PostRobbie333, on 08 May 2012 - 08:03 PM, said:

All we can do is write our locale congressman and relay our concerns. This is not good. A lot of things that have come up the last ten years is eroding our US life of freedom and trust.

The wealthy elites of the USA no longer see it as their own nation but just as a colony whose people and natural resources should be exploited.

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 07:37 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 09 May 2012 - 03:55 PM, said:

In any case, was there not the old maxim: No taxation without representation? I fail to see that anybody screaming here wanting those same people not to pay taxes....
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Only citizens are invested in the future of a nation and its people. Non-citizens in the USA always side with those choosing to exploit it as a colony.
The USA needs citizen workers, not workers engaged in the current exploitative processes.

And duel citizenship should be illegal.

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