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[Ecto76]

Mikko-kun, on 17 May 2012 - 06:57 PM, said:

Ecto... I think that's what's on most people's mind if they think about why predictions may work sometimes in some way. Lottery, as nice as it'd be to take it easy with the money stuff, what you get with that money is always made by something. In fact a whole lot of things. If you think all the things that it took to make a spoon for example: a metal industry mine with all it's companies, machinery companies to supply machines for all parts in the chain, as well as food companies with their farmers to supply workers with food... and I dont think anyone wants to keep drawing bad lottery tickets if you think of a hypothetical scenario where half of your paycheck was taken for some government lottery (as if it already wasn't the case). To put it simply, it's bad karma, and consider the amount of bad karma you get if you take so much...

Or maybe bad is not the right word. It's just the nature of karma to demand back what you've been given. I wouldn't want such a burden, the societal structure burdens us with enough karma as it is. If you believe in karma that is. Karma may be just the realisation of that chain and realisation of free will compared to something (societal structure for example) holding you. But whatever it is, I dont feel right about being in that chain, yet I choose to be there. And foretelling, as far as I've understood, is a very subjective art.

I'm a firm believer in KARMA! Karma can be a b*tch! That's why sometimes its best not to get involved with those who dwell on nothing but negativity or dish out negativity. What you give is what you get in return. I was posting a sarcastic remark when I said why can't they predict the winning lotto numbers!

[Doctor manhattan]

Ecto76, on 17 May 2012 - 07:19 PM, said:

I'm a firm believer in KARMA! Karma can be a b*tch! That's why sometimes its best not to get involved with those who dwell on nothing but negativity or dish out negativity. What you give is what you get in return. I was posting a sarcastic remark when I said why can't they predict the winning lotto numbers!

karma doesnt work like, and it only affects you if your hindu.

[skookum]

I wish they could be a little more precise on this calender thing.  A lot rides on it.  For instance I was hoping to save a fortune by not having to buy xmas gifts this year and getting totally rat a$$ed at the office party, telling the boss what I really think of him.

[nephilim12]

it's uncanny, such knowledge by the ancient Mayans. 21st December is just a great day in astronomy, when our sun will fall in the middle of our galaxy, something like an equator of the milky way.
However, what is expected is that with the great light of suntelian aion, it would appear as if the sun is rising in the west, not exactly a sunrise.
Yippeeeeee 24 hours of brightness !!!!!!
Some religious texts focus on doomsday as a way of ensuring compliance on the right path. And that such end will come on the day the sun rises in the west... Yawwwnnnnnn.
Let's just wait and see the marvelous changes that will come into the world we live in eh.
The implications of the Mayan calendar is that life as we know it, will end and there will come a new way of life, expected with the change on cosmic alignment.
Need i say it, companies like RayBan will boom.

[Abramelin]

It appears that that "great day" isn't that special at all.

Not according to astronomy that is.

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Edited by Abramelin, 22 May 2012 - 11:54 AM.

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skookum, on 21 May 2012 - 09:32 AM, said:

I wish they could be a little more precise on this calender thing.  A lot rides on it.  For instance I was hoping to save a fortune by not having to buy xmas gifts this year and getting totally rat a$$ed at the office party, telling the boss what I really think of him.

Just do it.

Worst case scenario, you can just off him and take his wallet for gift buying. How can it go wrong?

[Ecto76]

serial slasher, on 18 May 2012 - 12:05 PM, said:

karma doesnt work like, and it only affects you if your hindu.

I guess I am safe then because I am not Hindu! lol

[Saladin]

I think the world's gonna end pretty soon, and I base this on one silly reason: the increasing rate of access to information.

The basis for this silly idea? Well, there's a fixed amount of info one could get in one's lifetime (in my childhood, there wasn't any PC or 'net, - just reference books, and in my case an one old 1963 encyclopedia britannica referred by many in my neighborhood). and now, one can see that the quotas are exhausting pretty fast. you can easily obtain what was pretty inaccessible, say 50 years ago  e.g. ...latest scientific data, and porn? LOL). All from within the relative comfort of one's home- one doesn't need to move out as well. so you have lack of exercise- which kills, and a quickly extinguishing quota of information to be gathered in this lifetime, and all put together, you have a rapidly approaching horizon, approaching at a faster rate than the ability of modern science, literature, philosophy etc to keep pushing it back.


one day the horizon will touch us, and we'll all die..... boo hoo!!



jest a joke!

Ecto76, on 24 May 2012 - 03:54 AM, said:

I guess I am safe then because I am not Hindu! lol

Hindu or not, you'll die one day- for sure.

[Mikko-kun]

Saladin, as long as we need to work for food and other basic necessities, which most of us have to work for, a good amount of population is bound to have exercise at workplaces. It's true that technology can make many things easier, but I've not seen construction site workers for example, being replaced by robots anytime soon. Also, lack of energy to power up our ineffective farming system where animal torture is practised by big companies, will decline as oil declines. Our seas are becoming more polluted and less habitable for marine wildlife to live there, at a good rate, it drives us to reduce our fish dishes and concentrate more on farming, without oil. That farming is bound to make you exercise, even if you dont do it the traditional plow every year style, which is well worth a full gym course. Robots need something to fuel themselves to keep them going, humans are so far much more energy-efficient workers, even if they may cost a bit more in welfare countries.

And I think that internet just provides us a way to combine theories easier. 15 years ago I wouldn't have dreamed of studying all possible schools of astrology and Edgar Cayce, and all these sites with info. I can use these bits to form my own hypotheses and views, and discuss it with people who might be actually interested. This site harbors some very bright individuals, that's the impression I've gotten here. I guess I could've had a chat about these things over a pint at local joint as well, or find a group of people interested in this stuff. But this saves me the trip, and allows me to exchange thoughts without coming over to your place. I think that things will only accelerate for a while because of internet, as long as people have the will to explore the unexplored.

[Grimm24]

Im personally not worried if the world ends it ends if it doesnt it doesnt, simple as that although it does seem like every 2 seconds theres something that could happen to the earth and I mean in actuallity a meteor could hit the earth tomorrow and blow a huge chunck out of earth and end life as we know it.

[Saladin]

But why do I see this death wish?
Why are we so intent on seeing ourselves go extinct- some sense of collective guilt? angst?
would an emotional society go bust or otherwise?
I think the more "intelligent" a society becomes, the greater the tendency towards a collective extinction. Add to that accelerators like emotional insecurities, coupled with religion gone-crazy and fraudulent mind-control freaks...



Armageddon, here we come!

Edited by Saladin, 25 May 2012 - 04:39 AM.

[Saladin]

Mikko-kun, on 24 May 2012 - 08:29 PM, said:

Saladin, as long as we need to work for food and other basic necessities, which most of us have to work for, a good amount of population is bound to have exercise at workplaces. It's true that technology can make many things easier, but I've not seen construction site workers for example, being replaced by robots anytime soon. Also, lack of energy to power up our ineffective farming system where animal torture is practised by big companies, will decline as oil declines. Our seas are becoming more polluted and less habitable for marine wildlife to live there, at a good rate, it drives us to reduce our fish dishes and concentrate more on farming, without oil. That farming is bound to make you exercise, even if you dont do it the traditional plow every year style, which is well worth a full gym course. Robots need something to fuel themselves to keep them going, humans are so far much more energy-efficient workers, even if they may cost a bit more in welfare countries.

And I think that internet just provides us a way to combine theories easier. 15 years ago I wouldn't have dreamed of studying all possible schools of astrology and Edgar Cayce, and all these sites with info. I can use these bits to form my own hypotheses and views, and discuss it with people who might be actually interested. This site harbors some very bright individuals, that's the impression I've gotten here. I guess I could've had a chat about these things over a pint at local joint as well, or find a group of people interested in this stuff. But this saves me the trip, and allows me to exchange thoughts without coming over to your place. I think that things will only accelerate for a while because of internet, as long as people have the will to explore the unexplored.

Mikko-kun: As long as there's sincere effort put in- beginning with the physical, it will do well. But truly said- its idleness that kills. and to devote a massive amount of energy into brainpower without seeing anything in return is what's worrisome.
The internet has given one access to all sort of info- from the grosses/basest to the most sublime. But unfortunately we seem to be spending our time and our energy (all earned from Nature) - too much of it- into stagnant religion, indulgent sensuality, anger, greed and violence. information from the web is used to discuss how to make a dirty bomb, for instance.  
We are still earth-bound! When do we expand our horizons, literally? When will we *move out*? Our earth has been a home, i feel to far more civilizations than just the humans. I have a feeling that as long as we keep crowding this beautiful planet of ours without making the physical effort, we are destined to be doomed. Once we start re-investing all the knowledge and our interpretations (like what you've said above, re: Edgar Cayce) we have some chance. We need to move out- I dunno how. From physical exercise to a civilizational breath space. A Lebensraum.
I know all this sounds like pollyanna scifi- but thats what scifi has been doing so far- encouraging one to move 'out there' be it through time, through space, through multiple dimensions, to parallel universes, to multiverses, and what-have-you.

[Mikko-kun]

Saladin, I think you said it well. The point is, we have too much intelligence compared to our sense of ethics and caring for one another, for every living being. To be able to respect the lives of everyone and everything, even if you take lives to survive.

You're right in that we do need exercise to keep our bodies and minds and spirits in a more refreshed state. If you think of a world where no one did anything physical apart from being at computer, it'd certainly become our doom as a species. Moving and growing muscles and vital system isn't by far the only function of physical exercise for us. Bodily coordination, senses, realising our thoughts to our movements (dance, fighting etc).

[Convinceme]

Kool
So that not only means that we are out of the woods for 2012 but it also means that the Myan long count calendar was probably wrong. When are these findings going to conveniently show up on Yahoo news-I wonder.
When that happens I'll believe-whole thing must be a fabrication..

[ZaraKitty]

Just because a calendar ends, doesn't mean the world ends.