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[shaddow134]

gnostic-deity, on 18 May 2012 - 12:22 AM, said:

i read the Sitchin is wrong site. ok cool. but isnt there any evidence at all anywhere for alien visitation? there must be something, an oopart even...

There is no evidence what so ever,and people who continue to peddle this rubbish,along with planet X really need to rejoin the real world.

Sitchin should be consigned to history for what he was,unfortunately this does not include being a scholar on things Sumerian at all.

Edited by shaddow134, 18 May 2012 - 02:50 AM.

[Erudite Celt]

shaddow134, on 18 May 2012 - 02:48 AM, said:

There is no evidence what so ever,and people who continue to peddle this rubbish,along with planet X really need to rejoin the real world.

Sitchin should be consigned to history for what he was,unfortunately this does not include being a scholar on things Sumerian at all.

Not a big fan of Sitchin's fantasies either, but the works and ideas of Immanuel Velikovsky are worth considering.

[Rlyeh]

TheWord, on 17 May 2012 - 07:13 PM, said:

Why do so many of the skeptics and nay-sayers of Sitchin/Planet-X/Nibiru have to reort to name calling to make their point??  Just show us your facts and explanations and let that do the talking... Sitchin was a linguist and wrote 6+ books on his theory...the retort "he's a nut job" or "pure fantasy" doesn't lend to the overall knowledge growth of the masses....

Why don't you have anything better than a charlatan who couldn't even properly translate Sumerian?

[shaddow134]

Erudite Celt, on 18 May 2012 - 03:25 AM, said:

Not a big fan of Sitchin's fantasies either, but the works and ideas of Immanuel Velikovsky are worth considering.

I accept that some myths and legends could be based on actual events,but not this planet X garbage and ancient aliens.

Edited by shaddow134, 18 May 2012 - 12:29 PM.

[ShadowSot]

Erudite Celt, on 18 May 2012 - 03:25 AM, said:

Not a big fan of Sitchin's fantasies either, but the works and ideas of Immanuel Velikovsky are worth considering.

Considering, maybe. But there's no basis or evidence for any of his speculations. He wrote at a time when the universe and our solar system were much less understood and crazy things like Earth orbiting Saturn were almost feasible.

[gnostic-deity]

shaddow134, on 18 May 2012 - 02:48 AM, said:

There is no evidence what so ever,and people who continue to peddle this rubbish,along with planet X really need to rejoin the real world.

Sitchin should be consigned to history for what he was,unfortunately this does not include being a scholar on things Sumerian at all.

i bet theres something, somewhere. some kind of artefact.

[ShadowSot]

gnostic-deity, on 19 May 2012 - 07:39 PM, said:

i bet theres something, somewhere. some kind of artefact.

  Well, if you have faith, why not. All things are true in faith, as faith does not necassarily require evidence.

I suppose aliens is better than humans building themselves up over thousands of years of effort and sacrifice and trial and error and collapse and rebuilding anyway.

[shaddow134]

gnostic-deity, on 19 May 2012 - 07:39 PM, said:

i bet theres something, somewhere. some kind of artefact.

If there is,then why has it not been presented to the world with full fanfare...

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

gnostic-deity, on 18 May 2012 - 12:22 AM, said:

i read the Sitchin is wrong site. ok cool. but isnt there any evidence at all anywhere for alien visitation? there must be something, an oopart even...

There are things that have been interpreted as being evidence of aliens, but all in art and mythology but nothing in physical evidence.

[gnostic-deity]

shaddow134, on 20 May 2012 - 01:20 AM, said:

If there is,then why has it not been presented to the world with full fanfare...

i dont know. maybe it hasnt been discovered yet. way to be a party pooper shaddow...

[gnostic-deity]

Wearer of Hats, on 20 May 2012 - 01:46 AM, said:

There are things that have been interpreted as being evidence of aliens, but all in art and mythology but nothing in physical evidence.

yeah, but i wish there was something found some day. i want answers dangit. so do a lot of people

[ShadowSot]

Look to science, genetics,evolution. Those are were the answers (and new questions!) are coming. Or ignore it, like many do, and chase after dreams.

Edited by ShadowSot, 20 May 2012 - 06:16 AM.

[Mattshark]

ShadowSot, on 20 May 2012 - 06:12 AM, said:

Look to science, genetics,evolution. Those are were the answers (and new questions!) are coming. Or ignore it, like many do, and chase after dreams.

People sadly are so desperate for fantasy that they ignore what we do know. Never understood why,
They don't even go looking for real answers, they just assume because they don't know, no one else knows either.

[Timonthy]

gnostic-deity, on 20 May 2012 - 02:57 AM, said:

yeah, but i wish there was something found some day. i want answers dangit. so do a lot of people

In all seriousness, it's practically guaranteed that there in much life beyond our small planet, the sad thing is being left to wonder if we'll ever see evidence of it.

[Mikko-kun]

I'm not here for a debate and I think it's highly unlikely at best to have a dark planet outside our solar system drifting here without us noticing it. But I regard the possibility of any planet drifting here AND colliding us 10000 times less likely, than us not noticing it too soon if it's a dark planet or a dark moon, a larger dark celestial body.

Erudite Celt, could you tell some more of your thoughts? About the gas giants (saturn?) having so many moons? I realise that we still might not had discovered them all, unless technology is somehow advanced to space-range 3D-probe that can scan the whole solar system up to planets and places for possibly unknown moons we want to scan. I haven't followed the latest technological developments apart from what MSM tells us, for quite some time now, so I wouldn't know.