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#1    THE MATRIX

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 09:32 PM

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Long a lightning rod for conservative criticism, the Girl Scouts of the USA are now facing their highest-level challenge yet: An official inquiry by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops.
At issue are concerns about program materials that some Catholics find offensive, as well as assertions that the Scouts associate with other groups espousing stances that conflict with church teaching. The Scouts, who have numerous parish-sponsored troops, deny many of the claims and defend their alliances.
The inquiry coincides with the Scouts’ 100th anniversary celebrations and follows a chain of other controversies.

Earlier this year, legislators in Indiana and Alaska publicly called the Scouts into question, and the organization was berated in a series aired by a Catholic broadcast network. Last year, the Scouts angered some conservatives by accepting into a Colorado troop a 7-year-old transgender child who was born a boy but was being raised as a girl.
Some of the concerns raised by Catholic critics are recycled complaints that have been denied by the Girl Scouts’ head office repeatedly and categorically. It says it has no partnership with Planned Parenthood, and does not take positions on sexuality, birth control and abortion.
“It’s been hard to get the message out there as to what is true when distortions get repeated over and over,’’ said Gladys Padro-Soler, the Girl Scouts’ director of inclusive membership strategies.




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Posted 15 May 2012 - 09:41 PM

It's fast becoming the case that you know you're doing something right if the catholic church attacks you.

Edited by shadowhive, 15 May 2012 - 09:41 PM.

So just take off that disguise, everyone knows that you're only, pretty on the outside
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Posted 15 May 2012 - 09:43 PM

Yes, yes, let's attack the organisations for children and destroy them so our children are left with nothing but religious organisations for socialising. :tu:

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 09:58 PM

View PostTHE MATRIX, on 15 May 2012 - 09:32 PM, said:


Everyone in here knows I am a Catholic so I will not bet involved in this other than the one question remaining. Why is a 7 year old child being raised as a Transgender. This is so far out there that, well, why is my only question.

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 10:10 PM

View PostRobbie333, on 15 May 2012 - 09:58 PM, said:

Everyone in here knows I am a Catholic so I will not bet involved in this other than the one question remaining. Why is a 7 year old child being raised as a Transgender. This is so far out there that, well, why is my only question.

This actually pretty normal in some cultures - some polynesians, for example raise one boy as a girl.


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Posted 15 May 2012 - 10:12 PM

View PostArbenol68, on 15 May 2012 - 10:10 PM, said:

This actually pretty normal in some cultures - some polynesians, for example raise one boy as a girl.

"Pretty normal" would not have been my answer but alas I guess I am being welcomed to the new world, sign. I liked it better when boys were raised as boys and girls were raised as girls. Thats just me. Carry on.

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 10:17 PM

View PostRobbie333, on 15 May 2012 - 10:12 PM, said:

"Pretty normal" would not have been my answer but alas I guess I am being welcomed to the new world, sign. I liked it better when boys were raised as boys and girls were raised as girls. Thats just me. Carry on.

I quite agree, I think it's pretty weird. But it has nothing to do with the 'new world'. As I say it's a cultural tradition - and not a very rare sight in Auckland. However, I'm not making any assumptions here, and the example from the link probably has nothing to do with this.


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Posted 15 May 2012 - 10:20 PM

View PostArbenol68, on 15 May 2012 - 10:17 PM, said:

I quite agree, I think it's pretty weird. But it has nothing to do with the 'new world'. As I say it's a cultural tradition - and not a very rare sight in Auckland. However, I'm not making any assumptions here, and the example from the link probably has nothing to do with this.

Fair enough. Have a good day.

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 10:29 PM

View PostRobbie333, on 15 May 2012 - 10:12 PM, said:

"Pretty normal" would not have been my answer but alas I guess I am being welcomed to the new world, sign. I liked it better when boys were raised as boys and girls were raised as girls. Thats just me. Carry on.

There can be a good balance between the two. I've always been very feminine, but was taught how to work on cars, plumbing, carpentry and a plethora of other things considered " man's work". I've never been afraid to get my hands dirty and I can work circles around a lot of men that we've hired in our welding business.

My husband's Mother taught him how to wash clothes, cook and sew, etc... He washes all of our clothes including my delicates. Actually he can sew better than I can. Rosie Greer does needlepoint and even wrote a book on it.


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Posted 15 May 2012 - 10:34 PM

View PostMichelle, on 15 May 2012 - 10:29 PM, said:

There can be a good balance between the two. I've always been very feminine, but was taught how to work on cars, plumbing, carpentry and a plethora of other things considered " man's work". I've never been afraid to get my hands dirty and I can work circles around a lot of men that we've hired in our welding business.

My husband's Mother taught him how to wash clothes, cook and sew, etc... He washes all of our clothes including my delicates. Actually he can sew better than I can. Rosie Greer does needlepoint and even wrote a book on it.

Oh I agree. I learned to cook when I was a lad and work on farm equipment to. I love girls whom are not afraid to get there hands dirty. I don't think you got my point. They are raising this child as a girl in all aspects evidently. Why not raise the child and let him feel out who he wants to be on his own is my question. Plus, seven years old. Come on. I know you are way left and I am way right but this is a little out there. My opinion though. Carry on.

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 10:41 PM

View PostRobbie333, on 15 May 2012 - 10:34 PM, said:

Oh I agree. I learned to cook when I was a lad and work on farm equipment to. I love girls whom are not afraid to get there hands dirty. I don't think you got my point. They are raising this child as a girl in all aspects evidently. Why not raise the child and let him feel out who he wants to be on his own is my question. Plus, seven years old. Come on. I know you are way left and I am way right but this is a little out there. My opinion though. Carry on.

From what I've read in other articles, I think they are and he has made his choice. :yes:

I'm way left? :w00t:  I've been called a lot of things, but not way left. ;)

Edited by Michelle, 15 May 2012 - 10:42 PM.


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Posted 15 May 2012 - 10:45 PM

View PostMichelle, on 15 May 2012 - 10:41 PM, said:

From what I've read in other articles, I think they are and he has made his choice. :yes:

I'm way left? :w00t:  I've been called a lot of things, but not way left. ;)

How can a seven year old child make a decision like this. I am not buying it. I think he was nudged.  Sorry about the left statement. I thought you were. My mistake.

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 10:48 PM

I read transgender as a way to define a minor born with both male and female chromosomes, possibly even both genetalia. If that's the case then how would some of YOU, as a parent in those shoes, choose your childs gender as they grow and socialize?

As for the RCC, anything they can do these days to take the attention off them as a dying religion filled with odd creepy men.

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 10:53 PM

View PostFramling, on 15 May 2012 - 10:48 PM, said:

I read transgender as a way to define a minor born with both male and female chromosomes, possibly even both genetalia. If that's the case then how would some of YOU, as a parent in those shoes, choose your childs gender as they grow and socialize?

As for the RCC, anything they can do these days to take the attention off them as a dying religion filled with odd creepy men.

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 10:55 PM

View PostRobbie333, on 15 May 2012 - 10:45 PM, said:

How can a seven year old child make a decision like this. I am not buying it. I think he was nudged.  Sorry about the left statement. I thought you were. My mistake.

Growing up, I lived across the street from a guy that, from the time he could walk, played with my sister and I. We took ballet classes and had new costumes for recitals every year. After the recitals were over we could play in them to our hearts content. He liked nothing better than to get dressed up in our tutus and prance around in them. His parents and older brother (a star football player) were mortified,, but gradually accepted him for who he was.

Edited by Michelle, 15 May 2012 - 11:21 PM.





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