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[Otharus]

One of the things I like about the OLB, is that it is about all times.



HJA SPRÉKATH SWÉTA WIRDA,
MEN HJA TORNATH VNMARKSÉM
AN ALLES HWAT FON VS FRYAS TREFTH

[jmccr8]

Otharus,

  I am not sure what your are implying with your last few posts, are you suggesting that these innocents are somehow involved with the OLB? Justice is one of the strongest growth industries worldwide and always has been.
jmccr8

[Otharus]

jmccr8, on 16 August 2012 - 12:04 PM, said:

are you suggesting that these innocents are somehow involved with the OLB?

No, just that the Dutch are sometimes too easy with "guilty" verdicts.

ALLERA MANNALIK THÉR EN OTHER
FON SINE FRYDOM BIRAW
AL WÉRE THENE ORE HIM SKELDECH
MOT IK ANDA BARN.TAM ÉNER SLAFINE FARA LÉTA

Edited by Otharus, 16 August 2012 - 02:26 PM.

[Abramelin]

I think you exaggerating.

No Over de Linden, Ottema, Haverschmidt, Verwijs or Halbertsma were ever accused of criminal activities, or were imprisoned because of it.

This has nothing to do with anything OLB anymore.

Find archeological proof, and all will be settled.

Like the Minoan seals found off the coast of Germany/Denmark.

But they only prove Minoans were there 2400 BP, not that Fryans/Frisians were in Crete 3400 BP.

All the arguments brought up by you and Alewyn, about why no archeological proof of the socalled Fryan civilization has ever been found, is bogus.  Nothing is hidden from the public, and things much older, and of degradable material, are still being discovered and documented... and published.

This thread is not about a cover-up imposed by the Dutch government to hide 'the true history' of Europe.





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Edited by Abramelin, 16 August 2012 - 03:26 PM.

[Abramelin]

"But they only prove Minoans were there 2400 BP"....... that should have been 3400 BP ofcourse.

[jmccr8]

Otharus,

  Okay,just asking.
jmccr8

[Otharus]

Otharus, on 16 August 2012 - 02:23 PM, said:

No, just that the Dutch are sometimes too easy with "guilty" verdicts.

And that economical and political motives are often more leading, than truth and justice.

[Otharus]

IN MODVM ROTAE = in the shape of a wheel

From "Camillus ~ A Study of Indo-European Religion as Roman History"
by George Dumezil, 1980:



Note: I have seen those cookies in India, they made them for Christmas and they were 6-spoke wheel-shaped.

From "A Companion to the prologue of Apuleius' Metamorphoses"
by Kahane & Laird (eds.), 2001:



"Et iniecta dextera senex comissimus ducit me protinus ad ipsas fores aedis amplissimae rituque sollemni apertionis celebrato ministerio ac matutino peracto sacrificio de opertis adyti profert quosdam libros litteris ignorabilibus praenotatos, partim figuris cuiusce modi animalium concepti sermonis compendiosa verba suggerentes, partim nodosis et in modum rotae tortuosis capreolatimque condensis apicibus a curiositate profanorum lectione munita."

APVLEI METAMORPHOSEON LIBER XI-22

=> Writing/ script 'in the shape of a wheel'.

Apuleius was mentioning the JOL (6-spoke wheel) script.

[Abramelin]

"with the ENDS OF THE LETTERS knotted and twisted like wheels or intertwined like tendrils"

That doesn't look anything like the OLB Jol script.

[Otharus]

Abramelin, on 20 August 2012 - 06:50 AM, said:

"with the ENDS OF THE LETTERS knotted and twisted like wheels or intertwined like tendrils"

That doesn't look anything like the OLB Jol script.

That is just a translation.

Read the original Latin text.

The Dutch translation I have says "in wielvorm gedraaide [...] tekens" (signs/ letters twisted/ turned in wheel-shape).

P.333 of "Apuleius ~ De gouden ezel", Dutch translation by Vincent Hunink (2012), Salamander Klassiek

Literally, "in modum rotae" would be: " in wheel-mode", or Dutch: "in rad-modus", "in de mode van het rad".

[Abramelin]

Apuleius, Metamorphoses, or the Golden Ass, book 11 (Lucius’ initation into Isis’ mysteries)
Translation from H.E. Butler, The Metamorphoses, or Golden Ass, of Apuleius of Madaura (vol.
2; Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1910), public domain.

http://www.philiphar...1910 trans).pdf

Book XI, chapter 22:

Then, placing his right hand in mine,
the kindly old man led me to the very doors of the
great shrine, and after celebrating with solemn rite the
service of the opening of the gates and performing the
morning sacrifice, he brought forth from the hidden
places of the shrine certain books with titles written
in undecipherable letters. Some of these were in the
shape of animals of all kinds, and seemed to be compendious
symbols for the forms of speech ; others were
defended from the curiosity of profane readers, inasmuch
as their extremities were knotted or curved like wheels
or closely interwoven like to the tendrils of the vine.


Still nothing like the OLB script, whatever translation you use.


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Edited by Abramelin, 20 August 2012 - 08:22 AM.

[Otharus]

Abramelin, on 20 August 2012 - 08:22 AM, said:

Still nothing like the OLB script, whatever translation you use.

Personally, I would not know a more accurate description of the JOL-script in Latin than "in modum rotae".

As my first source demonstrated, the formula can also be translated as "in the shape of a wheel".

Edited by Otharus, 20 August 2012 - 08:59 AM.

[Abramelin]

Otharus, on 20 August 2012 - 08:56 AM, said:

Personally, I would not know a more accurate description of the JOL-script in Latin than "in modum rotae".

As my first source demonstrated, the formula can also be translated as "in the shape of a wheel".

But your first quote is about circular shaped cakes, sumanalia, right? Not about any script.

[Otharus]

Abramelin, on 20 August 2012 - 11:43 AM, said:

But your first quote is about circular shaped cakes, sumanalia, right? Not about any script.

It is to show that "in modum rotae" can mean "in the shape of a wheel".

[Abramelin]

Otharus, on 20 August 2012 - 04:16 PM, said:

It is to show that "in modum rotae" can mean "in the shape of a wheel".

OK, but this is what you claimed:

Otharus, on 20 August 2012 - 06:39 AM, said:

Apuleius was mentioning the JOL (6-spoke wheel) script.

And he didn't.

He wrote:

he brought forth from the hidden
places of the shrine certain books with titles written
in undecipherable letters. Some of these were in the
shape of animals of all kinds, and seemed to be compendious
symbols for the forms of speech ; others were
defended from the curiosity of profane readers, inasmuch
as their extremities were knotted or curved like wheels
or closely interwoven like to the tendrils of the vine.

A modern example of what he meant is this:

Edited by Abramelin, 20 August 2012 - 05:00 PM.