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[nue]

Okay aside from my premonition, i have 2 other things that I find it hard to explain.

One of them is a protector that is always by my side and guiding me towards my spiritual practice and also my life. He has saved my life countless times even from suicide attempts as well as give me tons of counselling and advice. However despite this i have disagreements with him and he does take over my speech and we have conversations and we talk to each other. He warns me of bad things that might happen and how to avoid it and I just have to follow. Sometimes it gets too hard and i draw exceptions and he just keeps quiet and when the bad outcome happens he says told me so. I get scolded by him a lot and a lot and i can say he is the only friend i trust. He has also failed to predict some things before so i am not sure if he is reliable or just want me to focus on my spiritual guide.

Because, the advice that he gives often matches what the spiritual guide teaches, earlier by his by a few days or months. He also constantly reminds me of my purpose in life.

He does not talk to me that often anymore, he used to be quite distracting but not ever since i told him it is affecting my work and daily life and he should really choose the correct time.


The other are not so nice visions of my past lives, and my past lives appearing as characters in my mind, or rather the strongest incarnations. They have their own set of rationalization, wisdom and thoughts, likes and dislikes and they can sometimes take over my body and make me act different. But they are me! They often tell me what I should do or should not do. They also show me sometimes the strongest memory from my past lives....and how i died, the happiest moments, etc.

both entities seem to exist in my own mind, speak directly into my head, have direct access to my memory, body, thoughts and senses but have different thought patterns, thinkings and ideas that I cannot possibly think of. For example, if the european incarnation takes over, i'll suddenly feel disgust towards pop music and gravitate towards classical music and my internal standards will change to ancient european standards. When he is gone i like pop music again.

are these manifestations of my subconcious mind or some sort of a psychological disorder or an external being?

[Hilander]

I believe in premonitions, have had a few myself over the years.  You can't always rely on them and they can be changed.  I'm no expert and I'm not saying this to put you down but I think the entities in your head are just that, in your head.  Perhaps its your subconscious mind talking to you but I doubt it is a spirit.

[nue]

Hilander, on 27 May 2012 - 11:20 PM, said:

I believe in premonitions, have had a few myself over the years.  You can't always rely on them and they can be changed.  I'm no expert and I'm not saying this to put you down but I think the entities in your head are just that, in your head.  Perhaps its your subconscious mind talking to you but I doubt it is a spirit.

a few other people i know say that it is actually my subconcious mind but why is it this disconnected with my current mind? Perhaps I am mentally damaged in some way? if yes then can i be fixed? Apparently the entities i described above are very ancient and powerful, i am them apparently and they are me, just not at the moment and i have to find out why.

[tyrant lizard]

Sound to me like you need to see a doctor. Having warring voices in your head is not good and definately not normal.

[Seeker79]

nue, on 28 May 2012 - 12:00 AM, said:

a few other people i know say that it is actually my subconcious mind but why is it this disconnected with my current mind? Perhaps I am mentally damaged in some way? if yes then can i be fixed? Apparently the entities i described above are very ancient and powerful, i am them apparently and they are me, just not at the moment and i have to find out why.

My advice to you is to follow both paths. Your experiences remind me of "visitor" experiences. Yet if it is disruptive or unproductive to your life, you have to consider mental illness. Follow both sets of thought. And see what leads you to a more enlightened place.

Good luck.

[nue]

Seeker79, on 28 May 2012 - 08:33 PM, said:

My advice to you is to follow both paths. Your experiences remind me of "visitor" experiences. Yet if it is disruptive or unproductive to your life, you have to consider mental illness. Follow both sets of thought. And see what leads you to a more enlightened place.

Good luck.

I wouldnt say that it is disruptive, in fact, it is conductive as it has helped me and a few other people many times as sometimes when people ask me for advice the protector gives me the answer which turns out to be very beneficial for the other person. If i follow his advice, things tend to go smooth and when i dont, **** literally hits the fan. His advice can be very very different and hard to implement (or maybe im just lazy)

Which is why in this case, i am not sure what to make of this. If its mental illness, i have gone to a psychatrist before and was on olanzopine but the protector did not go away. He still gave me advice, but the personalities stopped appearing. The protector feels like a seperate entity that communicates with me via telepathy most of the time, which is why I am trying to figure out what he is. Does anyone have this experience?

And oh, his voice and presence becomes stronger whenever i am in a holy place or when i am under duress, or when i am feeling very down, or before i get myself into very bad situations.

[libstaK]

nue, on 28 May 2012 - 12:00 AM, said:

a few other people i know say that it is actually my subconcious mind but why is it this disconnected with my current mind? Perhaps I am mentally damaged in some way? if yes then can i be fixed? Apparently the entities i described above are very ancient and powerful, i am them apparently and they are me, just not at the moment and i have to find out why.

If the possibility of it being your subconscious mind is plausible to you then I believe you have examined the evidence enough to see some holes and inconsistencies in these alternate personalities agendas and personalities.  

There are definitely medical and mental conditions which could easily account for what you are experiencing, these should be eliminated as possible causes before other considerations.  At the very least get a full medical check up and some brain scans if possible - you need to eliminate any and all possible causes that can be diagnosed and treated by the medical profession to ensure your physical and emotional wellbeing.

[Seeker79]

nue, on 29 May 2012 - 09:05 AM, said:

I wouldnt say that it is disruptive, in fact, it is conductive as it has helped me and a few other people many times as sometimes when people ask me for advice the protector gives me the answer which turns out to be very beneficial for the other person. If i follow his advice, things tend to go smooth and when i dont, **** literally hits the fan. His advice can be very very different and hard to implement (or maybe im just lazy)

Which is why in this case, i am not sure what to make of this. If its mental illness, i have gone to a psychatrist before and was on olanzopine but the protector did not go away. He still gave me advice, but the personalities stopped appearing. The protector feels like a seperate entity that communicates with me via telepathy most of the time, which is why I am trying to figure out what he is. Does anyone have this experience?

And oh, his voice and presence becomes stronger whenever i am in a holy place or when i am under duress, or when i am feeling very down, or before i get myself into very bad situations.

Ok, just be careful and approach it from both perspectives. I communicate with spirit guides aswell, although usually in a face to face manner. There is no room to be narrow. Allow yourself a wide berth of explanation. Medical advice is a great tool for evaluation, so keep it in mind. Especially if anything turns negative.

[bLu3 de 3n3rgy]

I think you are probably talking to something, it is possible to talk to your own and other peoples subconscious, but the trouble a lot of channellers face is other entities and beings that want to use you because you are a 'wide open reception channel'...If this is not properly managed, if a channeller doesn't properly learn how to discern their own inner voice and higherself from everything else, and set boundaries for what and who they channel, then things can get out of control quickly. Blossom Goodchild is an example of one who started off with best intentions and naively thought she was being fed the truth,  many think she is a raving loony fraud but i see something different. Just a person who was contacted, realised they could channel, but became used by beings with a different agenda that she couldn't see. She's a lesson to all channellers that just because you have the ability to stream consciousness, doesn't mean that those who want to use it are for any good. Higher, enlighten beings don't always equate divine.

If you are looking for something to do, i would suggest rolling back to basics. Tell the personalities to b off, quieten the noise down to your monkey brain, and start to train in learning to sense your inner voice only. There is nothing wrong with going back to basics i do it all the time. Sometimes you are forced too, sometimes you know it's wise too.

[nue]

bLu3 de 3n3rgy, on 29 May 2012 - 01:30 PM, said:

I think you are probably talking to something, it is possible to talk to your own and other peoples subconscious, but the trouble a lot of channellers face is other entities and beings that want to use you because you are a 'wide open reception channel'...If this is not properly managed, if a channeller doesn't properly learn how to discern their own inner voice and higherself from everything else, and set boundaries for what and who they channel, then things can get out of control quickly. Blossom Goodchild is an example of one who started off with best intentions and naively thought she was being fed the truth,  many think she is a raving loony fraud but i see something different. Just a person who was contacted, realised they could channel, but became used by beings with a different agenda that she couldn't see. She's a lesson to all channellers that just because you have the ability to stream consciousness, doesn't mean that those who want to use it are for any good. Higher, enlighten beings don't always equate divine.

If you are looking for something to do, i would suggest rolling back to basics. Tell the personalities to b off, quieten the noise down to your monkey brain, and start to train in learning to sense your inner voice only. There is nothing wrong with going back to basics i do it all the time. Sometimes you are forced too, sometimes you know it's wise too.

I managed to take control of the personalities instead these days as they tend to surface whenever I am in a situation I cannot control and although I can sense other entities, I do not channel anything else or even allow them to contact me at all. I used to see faces of people appearing everywhere - on walls, on the ground, on objects when i was young and I prayed to stop it as it was affecting severely and they stopped, so i am guessing that my "3rd eye" was sealed then and there...hmm

For now, I have managed to stop the personalities, but they are still in a corner somewhere.

It is the protecor voice that I am trying to learn on how to deal with now. He has shown me his real form a few times and we have  met in my mind space a few times. He can also channel his "boss". This is all too weird. When I ask him he told me he's what i want to believe him to be but he's here so that I will not forget my purpose in life and he never gives a straight answer to that question.

Edited by nue, 29 May 2012 - 04:13 PM.