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#46    Farmer77

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 09:43 PM

View Post747400, on 03 June 2012 - 12:54 PM, said:

Do you really think that the Politicians disclose everything that they've talked about? And would that be a very sensible thing to do if they did? Do you really imagine that they'd disclose every single matter concerned with security or intelligence matters that they'd discussed? I'm pretty sure I could guarantee that they don't disclose publicly 90% of what they discuss. In fact, probably, by releasing their agenda, the Beiderbeck lot are rather more open that most Governments on their own are.

Releasing an agenda is a long way from releasing what they discuss. What I'm interested in isn't the conversations per say but what is done after those conversations and the conference wrap up.

I read a quote in the Washington post where someone said "Ive seen 4 billionaires today...... those are the kingmakers". The members of the Bilderberg group rule the world. Some through election, some through vocation, most through birth or deals with the devil (LOL) regardless of means these men rule our world. To think these powerful men meet together without designing national and corporate policy is pure naivety.If you've ever spent time around truly driven businessmen you know they don't do anything that isn't aimed at earning that almighty dollar.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 10:18 PM

View PostStellar, on 02 June 2012 - 05:09 PM, said:

747: While it very well could be non-nefarious, have you considered that people simply have a right to know what their politicians are discussing in regards to their country?

Politicians meet in closed sessions all of the time - why so much focus on this one meeting?

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 10:24 PM

View PostFarmer77, on 03 June 2012 - 09:43 PM, said:

Releasing an agenda is a long way from releasing what they discuss. What I'm interested in isn't the conversations per say but what is done after those conversations and the conference wrap up.

I read a quote in the Washington post where someone said "Ive seen 4 billionaires today...... those are the kingmakers". The members of the Bilderberg group rule the world. Some through election, some through vocation, most through birth or deals with the devil (LOL) regardless of means these men rule our world. To think these powerful men meet together without designing national and corporate policy is pure naivety.If you've ever spent time around truly driven businessmen you know they don't do anything that isn't aimed at earning that almighty dollar.

Sorry, you could not have read that quote in the Washington Post because the Bilderberg Conference isn't mentioned in the mainstream media.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 10:26 PM

View PostAngel Left Wing, on 02 June 2012 - 04:31 PM, said:



I don't have time right now to address everything, but here is my link about Bilderberg acknowledging they discuss the New World Order. And it is from their official site.

Click here and then click on "Conferences." When you do it will bring you to this page (which again, is their "official" site). It lists the following:


14-17 May 2009 Vouliagmeni, Greece
  • Governments and Markets
  • After the G-20: Role of Institutions
  • Protectionism: How Serious
  • Cyberterrorism: Policy and Strategy
  • Sustainability: Post Kyoto Challenges
  • Iraq: Role and Responsibilities in the Region
  • Pakistan and Afghanistan
  • A New Order: US and the World
  • Lessons from a Crisis
  • Challenge to Market Economies and Democracies
  • New Imperialisms: Russia - China
  • Current Affairs: How does Industry see the Future
5-8 June 2008 Chantilly, Virginia, U.S.A.
  • Cyber-terrorism
  • A Nuclear-Free World
  • Managing Financial Turbulence
  • US Foreign Policy Without Change
  • How Serious Are the Threats on Our Economies
  • Islam in Europe
  • Africa
  • Afghanistan, Challenge for the West
  • Iran-Pakistan
  • A Look at the Future
  • The Mounting Threat of Protectionism
  • Russia
  • After Bush: The Future of US-EU Relations
  • Current Affairs: US Elections
31 May-3 June 2007 Istanbul, Turkey
  • The New World Order: Uni-Polar or Non-Polar?
  • Turkey and its Neighbours
  • Europe and the US: Common and Conflicting Interests
  • The Mood of the US
  • Democracy and Populism
  • Democracy in the Middle East
  • Turkey's Long-Term Development in Comparative Perspective
  • Leadership Changes in Key European Countries [France-UK]
  • Information Technology: Globalising or Tribalising Force?
  • Nuclear Non-Proliferation
  • The US: Cutting Issues in State-Federal Relations
  • Climate Change
  • Current Affairs: Capital Markets: Risks and Opportunities of Private Equity and Hedge Funds

Do you have any evidence that these references to a new world order are in any way similar to what is generally meant when you and others talk about a New World Order?

Because in my mind, there is a new world order and much of the turmoil of the past 20 years has been the world trying to figure it out.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 10:32 PM

View PostAngel Left Wing, on 03 June 2012 - 11:30 AM, said:

There are many forms of sourced information. You simply refuse to acknowledge the sourced information that doesn't lend itself to your established thoughts on things.


First off, I don't follow Alex Jones. I actually do my own research. Simply because Alex Jones may believe some of the same things I do does not translate into me following him.

Secondly, I do not discount reports that do not hold the same views I do. I will read them, and I will comment on them. The thing is, simply because one person may have been in the Grove and didn't witness anything bizarre or illegal occur within their presence doesn't mean odd rituals and sacrifices don't occur.

Lastly, "people like me" is a label that can easily be applied to "people like you." It serves no purpose other than to place a label on me and lump me in with groups that you don't care for as opposed to realizing I am my own person with my own established thoughts about things.  


No, that is very innacurate. I haven't done things like that at all, but again, you lump me in with a group you don't care for as a means of discrediting beliefs I have reached on my own.

You ask for video that flies in the face of your thoughts about things like Bohemian Grove and I replied with this. You paid no mind to it. That's fine, but by not doing so it only shows that you won't bother with legitimate information presented to you that goes against what you believe.

And if you don't believe what is presented within that post, then I have to wonder how it is you believe the person that describes what he experienced there managed to accurately describe the area within Bohemian Grove at a time when he was only 20-22 years old and during an age in which the internet did not exist (meaning he couldn't have learned about Bohemian Grove by simply sitting in front of a computer).

As for other things you mentioned, I do believe there is video and other documentation of people like David Rockefeller and Ted Turner stating their beliefs about needing to depopulate the world, establishing a New World Order, and things of that nature.


In this post I provide the source from the Bilderberg Group's "official" website which shows they admit to discussing a New World Order at their conferences (I realize the post was made after your above statement).


To the contrary, I have no issue with them discussing anything. The issue I have is that they do so in private without allowing any coverage of the meeting or answering questions posed to them about what was discussed at the conference EVER.

I don't know of other countries established laws and beliefs, but I know that in America our leaders are to operate in the open and in the best public interest of it's people. What they are doing by attending the Bilderberg meeting goes 100% against that. It is flat-out wrong. That isn't even a matter of opinion. It's a fact given what America's laws are.

Discussing these subjects in private with some of the most powerful and influential people in the world is an act of conspiring. Which again, isn't simply an opinion. It is a fact.


That would be a pretty darn good question to ask members and attendees of the Bildergroup Conference, wouldn't it? Trouble is, they wouldn't answer the question to anyone that isn't considered "worthy" of being part of their discussions. That in itself is a major issue with things surrounding the Bilderberg Group.

If influential people like Ron Paul, Neil Young, Eddie Vedder, Alex Jones, David Icke, Julian Assange and another one hundred plus from all around the globe gathered at a yearly meeting, let alone doing it even once, to discuss these same issues and their thoughts about what needs to be changed within the government and how all people can be best served without allowing any coverage to take place of this event they would be scrutinized like crazy and quite possibly be declared terrorists.

Why is it, however, that when the people who partake in Bilderberg do the same thing it should be allowed to be done?


That means very little when presented by itself. It would be like me grabbing one headline that is shown to be true about Bilderberg and declaring it alone proves everything else I may believe about what takes place there.

Furthermore, it doesn't address the biggest issue that I, and I believe others, have with Bilderberg. It isn't that they gather and discuss these issues. It is that they do so in private without allowing any coverage of the steps they feel need to be taken in order to take care of the issues they discuss.

That is the very act of conspiring. They use their positions and abilities to manipulate and influence what takes place around the world. What they do is undeniably wrong and goes against the very essence of how American politicians are supposed to operate having been elected by the people to best serve the people.

No, there isn't any sourced information.  There is simply speculation and conjecture.  That's all it is.

And no, I do not believe that the likes of Jimmy Buffet, David Rockefeller, and Henry Kissinger gang bang little boys.

And if Ron Paul, Neil Young, Eddie Vedder, Alex Jones, David Icke, and Julian Assange showed up at a conference, I'd definitely want to be there for nothing else but the comedic value.  Maybe Assange could secretly tape Eddie and Neil singing about reptilians with Icke.

By the way, since you're so convinced about the Bohemian Grove gang bangers, how do you feel about Assange's sex charges?

Has Ron Paul ever participated in any secret meetings?  Do you get agitated about them?

BTW, lots of stories in the mainstream media this weekend about Bilderberg.

Edited by Rafterman, 03 June 2012 - 10:33 PM.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 10:33 PM

Jim Tucker, the reporter that has been following the builderberg story for decades, can tell you all about what goes on at those meetings. We dont have to guess at all. He has predicted many outcomes of those meetings from what he has been directly told by at least one insider each passing year. He gets a list of those who attend before the meeting every year. No one aside from those who actualy attend, know more about builderberg then Jim Tucker.

According to him thier goals are basicaly the same as Rockefeller publicaly stated in his book. Consolidation of all banking power to the IMF, global currency and government. And last but not least a serious decline in the population. They have set the stage to accomplish those goals over a very long period of time, through all kinds on means. Including hand selecting public officials all the way to manipulating the economy through a wide range of options. These are evil men obsessed with thier hunger for power, and thier greed is beyond compare.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 10:35 PM

I see nothing sinister in talking of a new world order.  The one we currently suffer with is a poor enough excuse.  I think the world we see evolving through modern technology is inescapable.  We WILL find our way into a one world government.  The issue will be how fair and just such a government can be made to be.  A global monetary system is unstoppable.  I do not believe that the purposes of this group are sinister, else they would truly be secret.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 10:38 PM

View Postpreacherman76, on 03 June 2012 - 10:33 PM, said:

Jim Tucker, the reporter that has been following the builderberg story for decades, can tell you all about what goes on at those meetings. We dont have to guess at all. He has predicted many outcomes of those meetings from what he has been directly told by at least one insider each passing year. He gets a list of those who attend before the meeting every year. No one aside from those who actualy attend, know more about builderberg then Jim Tucker.

According to him thier goals are basicaly the same as Rockefeller publicaly stated in his book. Consolidation of all banking power to the IMF, global currency and government. And last but not least a serious decline in the population. They have set the stage to accomplish those goals over a very long period of time, through all kinds on means. Including hand selecting public officials all the way to manipulating the economy through a wide range of options. These are evil men obsessed with thier hunger for power, and thier greed is beyond compare.

Would Rick Perry be the one they "hand selected" last year?  See my post above.

So why would such a powerful group bent on controlling the world let Tucker (or Jones or any of you guys for that matter) live?

View Postand then, on 03 June 2012 - 10:35 PM, said:

I see nothing sinister in talking of a new world order.  The one we currently suffer with is a poor enough excuse.  I think the world we see evolving through modern technology is inescapable.  We WILL find our way into a one world government.  The issue will be how fair and just such a government can be made to be.  A global monetary system is unstoppable.  I do not believe that the purposes of this group are sinister, else they would truly be secret.

Exactly - they would meet and no one would even know about it.  They wouldn't be a freaking Marriott for Christ's sake.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 11:02 PM

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Politicians meet in closed sessions all of the time - why so much focus on this one meeting?


Because while groups of politicians from the same country meet all the time, this particular meeting is about certain politicians meeting with politicians from other countries, and powerful corporate leaders. Corporations should have no position in politics, and in a world that already suspects corporations "buy out" politicians, how can someone not demand to know what their politicians are doing with corporations?

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 11:12 PM

View PostRafterman, on 03 June 2012 - 10:24 PM, said:

Sorry, you could not have read that quote in the Washington Post because the Bilderberg Conference isn't mentioned in the mainstream media.

The MSM has picked up on the Bilderbergers recently, as in only the last 4 or 5 years. I kinda credit Alex Jones for making so much noise the networks became afraid they were getting scooped. So rather than report they can simply mention and mock thereby quieting their detractors by being able to say "see we covered it"

There's a huge difference between reporting that something exists and the investigative journalism required for any event to truly be covered.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 11:17 PM

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So why would such a powerful group bent on controlling the world let Tucker (or Jones or any of you guys for that matter) live?

I've thought about that question quite a bit actually. My personal belief  is twofold First is that if they were to kill Jones or Tucker they would instantly add credibility to what these guys have been saying.  Second I personally believe that the powers that be probably use Jones in particular as a way of disinformation. The guy is fed so much information from so many sources you have to believe that some of that is intentional misdirection. ...........


Or Alex Jones and Ron Paul are taking bong hits with the Obama and the Illuminati while laughing at all of us

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 12:13 AM

View Postand then, on 03 June 2012 - 10:35 PM, said:

I see nothing sinister in talking of a new world order.  The one we currently suffer with is a poor enough excuse.  I think the world we see evolving through modern technology is inescapable.  We WILL find our way into a one world government.  The issue will be how fair and just such a government can be made to be.  A global monetary system is unstoppable.  I do not believe that the purposes of this group are sinister, else they would truly be secret.

For a guy who believes in biblical prophecy where satan himselfs runs a world government through economic power, you sure are nieve when it comes to the construction of said government.

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 12:23 AM

View PostRafterman, on 03 June 2012 - 10:38 PM, said:

Would Rick Perry be the one they "hand selected" last year?  See my post above.

It could easily have been Perry. But he blew it. Big time.


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So why would such a powerful group bent on controlling the world let Tucker (or Jones or any of you guys for that matter) live?


Neither Tucker or Jones  were a very big deal to them till recently. Now at least Jones is to big to kill. But I wouldnt put anything past them. We are talking about people wo just openly stated that they want to kill Ron Paul and his supporters.




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Exactly - they would meet and no one would even know about it.  They wouldn't be a freaking Marriott for Christ's sake.

You say this as though the public wasnt just kicked out of the hotel. As though the place isnt swarming with police and security as it is every year. You talk about this like it isnt a fact that it IS happening. They did meet in secrecy for many years, but one of them is leaking information to folks like Mr Tucker

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 12:32 AM

View PostFarmer77, on 03 June 2012 - 11:12 PM, said:

The MSM has picked up on the Bilderbergers recently, as in only the last 4 or 5 years. I kinda credit Alex Jones for making so much noise the networks became afraid they were getting scooped. So rather than report they can simply mention and mock thereby quieting their detractors by being able to say "see we covered it"

There's a huge difference between reporting that something exists and the investigative journalism required for any event to truly be covered.

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 12:47 AM

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We are talking about people wo just openly stated that they want to kill Ron Paul and his supporters


Preacher... Did they really say that, or did they say that they wish Ron Paul were dead? There's a difference, you know...

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