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[Socio]

http://www.guardian....ist-suppression

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Florida says it will defy an order from the US justice department to stop purging its voter roll of people the state claims may not be American citizens.

The justice department has warned that the practice, which critics describe as "voter suppression" by Florida's Republican administration aimed at stripping the ballot from people more likely to support Democrats, is illegal under federal laws.

It has given the state until Wednesday to agree to halt the purge, something officials in Florida say they have no intention of doing.

Lets see, one cannot "suppress" votes that are not legal to cast, dead people cannot be suppressed,  and if you are not a citizen of the US you cannot be suppressed.

No the only real suppression going on here is the suppression of the Democrat illegal immigrant voting block by Florida, I say kudos to Florida!

Edited by Socio, 04 June 2012 - 01:23 PM.

[WoIverine]

I live there, I've gotta get out, it's idiocracy personified.

Edited by Spid3rCyd3, 04 June 2012 - 02:22 PM.

[Leonardo]

Socio, on 04 June 2012 - 01:22 PM, said:

http://www.guardian....ist-suppression



Lets see, one cannot "suppress" votes that are not legal to cast, dead people cannot be suppressed,  and if you are not a citizen of the US you cannot be suppressed.

No the only real suppression going on here is the suppression of the Democrat illegal immigrant voting block by Florida, I say kudos to Florida!

If the State has not verified these voters are not citizens (it's purging names of voters who may not be citizens) then it would be illegal to deny them their right to vote. End of story.

From the article above...

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This year Florida has notified more than 2,600 registered voters that they may not be entitled to be on the electoral roll. The Miami Herald reported that in Miami-Dade County so far 385 people who were removed from the roll have been shown to be citizens while just 10 have not.

This is disenfranchisement, plain and simple. A criminal act carried out by the State.

Edited by Leonardo, 04 June 2012 - 02:31 PM.

[Biff Wellington]

I'd get upset about living here but it's not like I plan on voting anytime soon.

[Wickian]

While they may be going about it the wrong way(since the federal government would never help them do it the correct way), they're at least sending the notice months in advance so the ones who are wrongfully removed have the chance to appeal if they do plan to vote.

[Socio]

Leonardo, on 04 June 2012 - 02:27 PM, said:

If the State has not verified these voters are not citizens (it's purging names of voters who may not be citizens) then it would be illegal to deny them their right to vote. End of story.

From the article above...



This is disenfranchisement, plain and simple. A criminal act carried out by the State.

Everytime an illegitimately cast vote is counted, it disenfranchises a legitimate voter does it not?


http://www.washingto...e-winning-edge/

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Critics point to the fact that of the 2,700 non-citizens the effort has uncovered thus far, 58 percent appear to be Hispanic. This, they argue, is evidence of the type of discriminatory impact that brings Florida’s efforts under the purview of the Justice Department. This misreads the intent of the law. The 1973 Voting Rights Act was never meant to apply to illegal aliens, and the fact that the majority of unlawfully registered noncitizens are Hispanic tracks with the fact that most of the illegals in Florida are Hispanic. Furthermore, the unlawfully registered aliens have been casting votes. Of the 1,600 registered illegals in Miami-Dade County thus far identified, around two-thirds have actually cast ballots. This is troubling for an extra reason: Illegal-voter participation is much higher than the general public’s.

That is just one County in one State!

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Illegal or erroneous voter registration is a national problem. A study by the Pew Center on the States, released in February, found 24 million flawed voter registrations nationwide, or one in eight registrations.

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The Justice Department’s attentions are misplaced. Guaranteeing the legitimacy and legality of elections is a compelling interest of the states, and a power explicitly granted them by the Constitution. In effect, the nation’s chief law-enforcement agency is ignoring the massive problem that Florida has uncovered in favor of focusing on imagined discrimination as the state seeks to rectify it. The fact that Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr.’s department is seeking to prevent the purge of Hispanic illegal voters, who can be counted on to vote mostly for Barack Obama, gives the whole affair an awful whiff of dirty politics.

I think the Liberal nonsensical good of the few over the good of the many stuff has to stop, we cannot, under no circumstance, let foreigners decide our elections and if a few toes get stepped on to prevent it then so be it. If the DOJ were doing their jobs which is what is in the best interest of the Country they would be insisting that every State purge illegal voters and aiding every State in every way possible to see only illegal voters were being purged, would they not?

Edited by Socio, 05 June 2012 - 12:56 PM.

[Bama13]

Leonardo, on 04 June 2012 - 02:27 PM, said:

If the State has not verified these voters are not citizens (it's purging names of voters who may not be citizens) then it would be illegal to deny them their right to vote. End of story.

From the article above...



This is disenfranchisement, plain and simple. A criminal act carried out by the State.

FYI: In Florida not all citizens have a right to vote. Convicted felons lose their right to vote unless they have their Civil Rights restored.

Therefore just because they are citizens doesn't mean they can vote. But don't let anything like facts stand in the way of your verdict that it is a criminal act. Knowledge is key!

[Socio]

More on the story;

http://www.mcclatchy...ears-ready.html

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Gov. Rick Scott’s administration is positioning itself for a showdown with the U.S. Department of Justice for demanding that Florida cease searching for and purging noncitizen voters.
The DOJ gave Florida until Wednesday to respond to a letter, sent last week, that said the purge probably ran afoul of two federal voting laws.

Read more here: http://www.mcclatchy...l#storylink=cpy

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“Our letter will address the issues raised by DOJ while emphasizing the importance of having accurate voter rolls,” said Chris Cate, spokesman for Florida Secretary of State Ken Detzner, who’s in charge of the state’s elections division.

Read more here: http://www.mcclatchy...l#storylink=cpy

[Socio]

Florida means business, now they are going to sue DHS;

http://thehill.com/v...stration-battle

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Florida Gov. Rick Scott ® said he will sue the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to move forward with his controversial attempt to purge the voter rolls in his state of ineligible voters.

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“For nearly a year, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security has failed to meet its legal obligation to provide us the information necessary to identify and remove ineligible voters from Florida’s voter rolls,” Detzner said. “We can’t let the federal government delay our efforts to uphold the integrity of Florida elections any longer. We’ve filed a lawsuit to ensure the law is carried out and we are able to meet our obligation to keep the voter rolls accurate and current.”

Of course DHS will not release those documents, the Left in this Country can't win elections without an illegal voting block.

[DieChecker]

I tend to think that the voter lists need to be purged now and then. People move out of state, or die, or shouldn't have been voting to begin with.

Is Voting a Right or a Privilage? Since it can be taken away, such as with Felons, I think it is a Privilage, and thus people should be required to submit proof that they fulfill the prerequisites for the Privilage.

[Uncle Sam]

One way to help purge states of voter fraud is to have birth certificates, social security, background checks, and thumb scanning that will weed out people who are not of that state or part of the nation, allowing for an true national elections to take place. Illegal Immigrants can be rounded up and deported back to their country, their votes would never count because they didn't went through proper routes to become U.S. Citizens. This in turn would actual make the Government act more on Illegal Immigration issues, because they can't get something out of them.

Those that say this is racism, no it isn't and will never be about racism. It is about Government Officials allowing foreign nationalist to come into our country and vote, undermining what the American Citizen wants. We are being influenced by foreign countries heavily and it has to stop.