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[Apopo]

I remember a few threads about these theories, and here is what I think (without evidence to back it up, but meh, just listen to it before giving your 'judgement')

- Spirits/Demons/Poltergeists etc are intelligent creatures from another dimension, and they feed on emotion, similar to many different cases of Shadow People/Demon sightings.

- Many of these creatures are from different dimensions and they sometimes bleed in to our world when they sense our emotions. These emotions can be fear, happiness or hope etc etc. I believe that our vibrations and energies attract different forms of these creatures, who can actually disguise as something else.

Why do I say that? For example, you might see the ghost of your grandfather. What if he wasn't real? What if it was a dimensional creature disguising as a 'ghost'? The emotions we express when we see ghosts/demons are different, so maybe these creatures know how to camouflage into our world and play with our minds.

What do you think? Like I said earlier, I do not have any evidence to back it up, but I was wondering whether one could give an explanation or your own opinion.

[Mikko-kun]

I've seen astral projectors here say that about the spirits and about NDE experiences, that they can take the form of what you think they are, or maybe rather, your brains may work as sunglasses that in most cases see them in the brain's subjective side's own way, instead of distinquishing the spirit as it is beyond that veil. I wouldn't know what the spirit is beyond that veil, but it'd seem logical that it wasn't what it looks like, if the nature of NDE's is like that. At least the NDEs are well-documented cases, and I dont think anyone has room to argue the validity of astral projections with contraband evidence (else they had likely already stepped forth and I had heard from them, you never know though).

Oh yeah, there's a bunch of people who use ouija board to contact what they call "cassiopeians". They claim that those cassiopeians tell them about how things are, and as far as I know (I could be wrong and am looking into this), this is their only real "proof" of their theory. Their theory goes: we are more developed than animals, and in the same sense there's more developed beings than us (reptilians). Those reptilians are the "unity" you speak of Apopo, and the reptilians are self-serving (acting for the sake of themselves, or so this theory's formers believe) creatures who'd want to eat us. But you know... even if this was true, and even if those people I speak of have developed a meditation technique of sorts that some consider to be far more advanced than the traditional ones, I think they got some things still unexplained, uncovered. Here's a link to their dictionary, you'll need it if you sift through all their talk... http://glossary.cass...ssary.php?l=NUM
and a short explanation of their theory, excluding the part where they claim that the reptilians will eat us: http://www.sott.net/...Alien-Abduction
Their attitute seems to me too all-knowing, considering how little of their knowledge they can put into PLAIN SUMMARISED words.

Edited by Mikko-kun, 05 June 2012 - 07:45 AM.

[XingWi]

wow apopo!!! that exactly i think like that.

i astral project once i saw a little girl said she is ghost of small girl search for her father who also ghost. first i belief her then she turn demon. many many deception in astral and demon in real world also.

shadow people take greater agenda. shadow people soldiers of lucifer himself.

i talked with one. then i find shadow people make crop circles and already working with powers that  be. gog magog = illuminati and shadow-people=army lucifer. soon they prepare gog and magog to war againbst people of God.

i know that very few belief me but i share what i find. i dont care if anybody beliefs me or not.

[Sakari]

I still think they are a made up fear of god mythical entity.

[coldethyl]

Shadow people make crop circles?

Wow.  You learn so much from this site.

[Hilander]

Spirits were once living creatures but I don't think demons were ever human or alive like us.

[Apopo]

Sakari, on 06 June 2012 - 06:47 PM, said:

I still think they are a made up fear of god mythical entity.

Sakari, on 06 June 2012 - 06:47 PM, said:

I still think they are a made up fear of god mythical entity.

I have to say I'm rather surprised at the standard of grammar you just used. Sarcasm or what? We'll never know.

Alright, back to topic. I don't believe in a God, but I'm sure that there are definitely things that go bump in the night.

[JGirl]

Apopo, on 05 June 2012 - 05:13 AM, said:

I remember a few threads about these theories, and here is what I think (without evidence to back it up, but meh, just listen to it before giving your 'judgement')

- Spirits/Demons/Poltergeists etc are intelligent creatures from another dimension, and they feed on emotion, similar to many different cases of Shadow People/Demon sightings.

- Many of these creatures are from different dimensions and they sometimes bleed in to our world when they sense our emotions. These emotions can be fear, happiness or hope etc etc. I believe that our vibrations and energies attract different forms of these creatures, who can actually disguise as something else.

Why do I say that? For example, you might see the ghost of your grandfather. What if he wasn't real? What if it was a dimensional creature disguising as a 'ghost'? The emotions we express when we see ghosts/demons are different, so maybe these creatures know how to camouflage into our world and play with our minds.

What do you think? Like I said earlier, I do not have any evidence to back it up, but I was wondering whether one could give an explanation or your own opinion.

it sounds like a good start for a made for tv movie if nothing else
as far as i'm concerned if there are ghosts, they are in another dimension so no diguise necessary right?

Edited by JGirl, 08 June 2012 - 06:31 AM.

[Mikko-kun]

I dont know about the disguise part... maybe, supposing they existed, they might not be able to alter their physical forms if they took one, not over-the-top at least. As far as I've understood, it's not a disguise they impose on us, but disguise our mind imposes us to see them. Lets say there's a person who can see them as they are, without the extra disguises our mind creates about them when we look at them. That person sees them differently than someone who thinks they're his granddad or buddha or god etc.

All I've heard about the spiritual realm leads me to believe this notion, at least the part that our mind may cloud them to look like something else than what they really are. It's basically the same effect as you hearing something you want when someone tells you different things, or maybe even in some cases of eyesight when your mind fills the odd spots of your vision in what's supposed to be there in your opinion.

I've studied a bit of psychology, and it's basic thing that your subjective side doesn't go anywhere if you just try to suppress or redirect it to something else. It's no stone-written fact if you ask me, but a pretty solid on. The best way I've found is to see beyond your own mental sunglasses there, to look beyond them.

[Sakari]

dbl post

Edited by Sakari, 08 June 2012 - 06:21 PM.

[Sakari]

Apopo, on 08 June 2012 - 05:14 AM, said:

I have to say I'm rather surprised at the standard of grammar you just used. Sarcasm or what? We'll never know.

Alright, back to topic. I don't believe in a God, but I'm sure that there are definitely things that go bump in the night.

Not sarcasm......I am just tired of posting over, and over again, in detail, why I know they do not exist.Same topic, different day.Demon topics must be in the thousands on this board.I did not feel like typing a long reply.

As for the grammar, I hear the grammar police have all been fired.

Thanks for your concern though

Edited by Sakari, 08 June 2012 - 06:21 PM.