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#3106    M0TH

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 09:02 PM

View PostNuke_em, on 20 June 2012 - 04:34 PM, said:

...Thats why i am barely opening this site... forum made for disscusions is made for supression we don't need your government to explain

have noticed that!! Some real lead weights on the site......


Great post!!!


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Posted 04 October 2012 - 09:10 PM

View PostQuaentum, on 04 October 2012 - 08:42 PM, said:

Not sure if this is accurate but It seems in 2010 that the photographer who took the pictures admitted it was a hoax.


No, he didn't admit anything in 2010 because he had already been dead for ten years by then, not unless he communicated through a seance or spirit rapping. It's only a secondhand story from someone who knew him.

Project Blue Book said the pictures were a hoax, but I doubt most of their conclusions anyway.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 10:21 PM

View PostQuaentum, on 04 October 2012 - 08:42 PM, said:

Not sure if this is accurate but It seems in 2010 that the photographer who took the pictures admitted it was a hoax.

http://forgetomori.c...er-admits-hoax/

There is also this...


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Posted 04 October 2012 - 11:05 PM

View PostbooNyzarC, on 04 October 2012 - 10:21 PM, said:

There is also this...

Someday you are going to "like" one thing I post on here, and on that day I shall die of a stroke.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 11:15 PM

View PostTheMacGuffin, on 04 October 2012 - 11:05 PM, said:

Some day you are going to "like" one thing I post on here, and on that day I shall die from a stroke.

I've "liked" several of your posts McG, and yet your grumpy old curmudgeon self is still typing away with no stroke at all. :hmm: Or did you have a stroke and forget the posts of yours that I've actually clicked "like" on?


Edit:

Several is an inaccurate description actually.  I just reviewed your liked content and only found three posts of yours that I've clicked "Like" on.  Your contributions are more deserving of credit than that, but forgive me if I haven't clicked "Like" enough.

The biggest one for me was this one.  We might do well to return to that before things get any uglier.  What do you say?

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 02:11 AM

View Post747400, on 04 October 2012 - 07:31 PM, said:

That's the whole point of what I've been trying to argue. "Atmospheric phenomena" or "Plasma" are just thrown out as a handy all-puprose explanation, but no one seems to be too bothered about what it is, whether or not it can occur under the conditions pertaining where these sightings happen, or to address the mystery of why they do seem very much to be as if they're under intelligent control. People just seem to be content to use them as a handy explanation for UFO sightings, and then sit back & fold their arms as if their only mission is to dismiss UFO sightings and that's an end to it.


There is no skeptic here trying to "explain away" the UFO phenomenon. Most people here agrees that it needs to be examined and investigated..... but so does the other stuff (not so exotic" terrrestrial phenomenon) that is tied in with the UFO sightings... agreed???

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 10:11 AM

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musical interlude....... :P





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Posted 05 October 2012 - 12:36 PM

View PostDBunker, on 05 October 2012 - 02:11 AM, said:

There is no skeptic here trying to "explain away" the UFO phenomenon. Most people here agrees that it needs to be examined and investigated..... but so does the other stuff (not so exotic" terrrestrial phenomenon) that is tied in with the UFO sightings... agreed???

No argument here,... I would also like to believe that without skeptics, the field of UFOology would be an even bigger mess than it is today. At least someone is trying to weed out all the nonsense. And believe you me, if there ever was a field that is filled to the rim with it its this one.

I still await the compelling Exhibit A.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 02:57 PM

View PostHazzard, on 05 October 2012 - 12:36 PM, said:

No argument here,... I would also like to believe that without skeptics, the field of UFOology would be an even bigger mess than it is today. At least someone is trying to weed out all the nonsense. And believe you me, if there ever was a field that is filled to the rim with it its this one.

You're right.  Ufology is a mess and it is filled with nonsense.  But the truth is out there somewhere and I guess that's what we are all after.

One guy I respected in the field was James Fox who had a good documentary called "Out of the Blue".  Saw him on Larry King live and some other appearances and he seemed to be giving things a fair evaluation.
Then last night I stumbled on an episode of National Geographic's UFO Chasers and wasted an hour watching it.  I was dumbfounded at the amateurish production and lame investigation methods.

Really, it's so bad that it deserves a watch.  I am wondering what any of you may think about it and how it may influence your view of National Geographic and James Fox in particular.
Surely James has traded in his search for the truth for an opportunity to make some cash.

Here's a link to one episode and a promotional poster.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 03:31 PM

View PostQuaentum, on 04 October 2012 - 08:42 PM, said:

Not sure if this is accurate but It seems in 2010 that the photographer who took the pictures admitted it was a hoax.

http://forgetomori.c...er-admits-hoax/

Surely he would have hoaxed them better than that?  They have to be blown up to see the detail.  Also there were lots of witnesses.  See clip.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 03:34 PM

View PostbooNyzarC, on 04 October 2012 - 10:21 PM, said:

There is also this...

An airplane?  Really?  That argument is as weak as a kitten.  What about the engine noise? :blush:

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 03:44 PM

View Postzoser, on 05 October 2012 - 03:34 PM, said:

An airplane?  Really?  That argument is as weak as a kitten.  What about the engine noise? :blush:

What about it?  If you were intentionally creating a hoax would you mention something like that?


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Posted 05 October 2012 - 03:50 PM

View Postzoser, on 05 October 2012 - 03:34 PM, said:

An airplane?  Really?  That argument is as weak as a kitten.  What about the engine noise? :blush:


Zoser, I really hope one day you have something other then a youtube video as evidence. I know you saw a couple pages back the youtube video shown as a hoax, and the following discussion about this, yet, you use these videos as evidence anyway.

Sometimes wanting  something to be real so much can and will make you believe anything you see or hear as truth. It is a addiction.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 04:12 PM

Roswell NM - 1947

A couple of interesting testimonies regarding Roswell.  The first from the granddaughter of Sheriff George Wilcox who rancher Mac Brazel contacted.  She has spoken with key witnesses and family of witnesses regarding the event.  She was also a witness a UFO sighting herself over Phoenix.



The second is by a private who in 1947 was assigned to the 390th air service squadron at Roswell airfield.  His testimony needs no explanation.  What he saw is incredible.



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Posted 05 October 2012 - 04:19 PM

View PostSakari, on 05 October 2012 - 03:50 PM, said:

Zoser, I really hope one day you have something other then a youtube video as evidence. I know you saw a couple pages back the youtube video shown as a hoax, and the following discussion about this, yet, you use these videos as evidence anyway.

Sometimes wanting  something to be real so much can and will make you believe anything you see or hear as truth. It is a addiction.

Nobody would deny that there are thousands of hoaxes around.  Don't forget what this thread is all about; direct witness testimony.  What better way to portray that than by being able to look into the eyes of the people themselves as they relate their stories.  The best possible evidence imho.

Particularly when there are hundreds of them.

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