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#4141    booNyzarC

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 09:16 PM

View Post1963, on 11 November 2012 - 08:48 PM, said:

Hi Boony!,Zoser!, and Synch!

I'll go out on a lim here... :innocent:

I discussed this particular case on another forum some months ago. And remember dismissing it, because for if nothing-else, my gut-feeling was that it was a hoax perpetrated by the whole family. [including  the family documentary maker]...Not that they deliberately created the anomalous-looking sight!...but rather, they know exactly what they had filmed, and decided that it looked mysterious enough to "Cash In" on the damn-thing!
The 'chimney idea'  never crossed my mind.[and still seems rather remote]..But I do still favour 'something-on-the-hill theory'...And reviewing the first instalment of the "Genuine UFO" film,..I noticed that the lady mentions that the lights emanated from the general direction of "The Denbigh Golf Club"!....And being an occasional [but excellent] golfer myself,...I know that my own golf club does it's general maintenance through the night!....And I hope that I am not being too sceptical here,...but after watching the tape again, I believe that a group of brightly-lit ground-staff vehicles , innocently going about their duties,...might just look like the "Genuine UFO" in the Denbigh film?

Anyway...I have left a message via the club's website, requesting information on any 'nocturnal maintenance work' that could possibly have been carried out on or about the 3rd of january.
...It is late sunday evening here...So i'll wait and see if i'm anywhere near the mark on this one. :whistle:


Cheers buddy.

Hiya 1963, and yes you're right that the golf course lines up.  I had very similar thoughts as I was looking (and am still looking) into it.

Unfortunately, the golf course itself is over the hill and not visible from the point of view of the camera.  Excellent thinking though, and I'm currently thinking that it may have been a tractor or something similar on the field just this side of the hill.


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Posted 11 November 2012 - 09:19 PM

View Postzoser, on 11 November 2012 - 08:21 PM, said:

I do believe this kind of thing has been posted before; it solves nothing but if it helps people to sleep better at night then fine,

Thank you Mr D.


Just stating the obvious.... and something factual.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 09:31 PM

View Post1963, on 11 November 2012 - 08:48 PM, said:

Hi Boony!,Zoser!, and Synch!

I'll go out on a lim here... :innocent:

I discussed this particular case on another forum some months ago. And remember dismissing it, because for if nothing-else, my gut-feeling was that it was a hoax perpetrated by the whole family. [including  the family documentary maker]...Not that they deliberately created the anomalous-looking sight!...but rather, they know exactly what they had filmed, and decided that it looked mysterious enough to "Cash In" on the damn-thing!
The 'chimney idea'  never crossed my mind.[and still seems rather remote]..But I do still favour 'something-on-the-hill theory'...And reviewing the first instalment of the "Genuine UFO" film,..I noticed that the lady mentions that the lights emanated from the general direction of "The Denbigh Golf Club"!....And being an occasional [but excellent] golfer myself,...I know that my own golf club does it's general maintenance through the night!....And I hope that I am not being too sceptical here,...but after watching the tape again, I believe that a group of brightly-lit ground-staff vehicles , innocently going about their duties,...might just look like the "Genuine UFO" in the Denbigh film?

Anyway...I have left a message via the club's website, requesting information on any 'nocturnal maintenance work' that could possibly have been carried out on or about the 3rd of january.
...It is late sunday evening here...So i'll wait and see if i'm anywhere near the mark on this one. :whistle:


Cheers buddy.

It's not that your being skeptical it's that you are missing the other half of the story.

Check out the Fraserburgh UFO seen last month; it's virtually identical ; Then see if that changes your mind.  Check it out on youtube or a few posts back.

Edited by zoser, 11 November 2012 - 09:32 PM.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 09:33 PM

View PostDBunker, on 11 November 2012 - 09:19 PM, said:

Just stating the obvious.... and something factual.

If you want something factual; look at the footage.  We don't need text books to tell us facts;  there are other ways.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 09:38 PM

View Postzoser, on 11 November 2012 - 09:33 PM, said:

If you want something factual; look at the footage.  We don't need text books to tell us facts;  there are other ways.

Didn't you say that you were a math teacher?  What do you teach your students with?


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Posted 11 November 2012 - 10:10 PM

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re the Welsh 'UFO event'....I'm totally underwhelmed  (with the Scottish one as well)...

one of the comments with the Welsh video was...

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Kid gets video camera for Christmas.
First thing he sees and shoots is a UFO.
Timing!
Wonder what he'll ask for for next Christmas.


^_^

To me the whole thing looks like it was set up by the family (lights on the hill).....for 'the kid' to film.

Little Nathan was probably the only one not 'in on it'.....

the narrative seems pretty fake to me as well

sorry zoser

I just can't share your enthusiasm for these two videos...

but cheers anyway..:)

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 10:41 PM

Thank you for posting the poppy, Bee.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 11:13 PM

View Postzoser, on 11 November 2012 - 09:31 PM, said:

It's not that your being skeptical it's that you are missing the other half of the story.

Check out the Fraserburgh UFO seen last month; it's virtually identical ; Then see if that changes your mind.  Check it out on youtube or a few posts back.

Zoser, it was me that posted that video you turnip!....Listen buddy,..i'm not trying to knock the ETH!...For gods sake man, I was a proponent probably since before you were born!...it's just that I am a bit more selective as to which cases deserve real attention.....Erm?...no that sounds rather pretentious doesn't it!...So I will re-phrase....perhaps it's that "My bullcrap-meter is working by stricter guidelines than yours"!, and the Denbigh light's video is causing my meter to bleep loudly!
And while we are on the subject....How come there has only been 13 seconds of the 8 minutes shown?
After all ,...even though the guy says that it was going to be methodically posted in drips [for some unfathomable reasoning] ...it has now been 'almost a year' since the first [and so far only..] instalment!
At this rate....it is going to be over 30 years before we get the whole picture!!...does that sound like a valid action, by a genuine 'smoking-gun holder' to you Zoser..?...I would suggest not!
And by your trying to tie the Fraserburgh Video to this one, in an attempt of enhancing the validity of both videos...you are imo, grasping at straws my friend, and doing the Fraserburgh case 'No favours'!...because in my honest opinion,..the similarities are very slim-to-negligible !...in fact, it wouldn't be a miraculous feat to scout a half  dozen better matches on YouTube! [if you could be bothered...and no!, I can't!]
The fact is, that even if we never find out what it was in the Denbigh video,...we still cannot state that it was an extraterrestrial craft for certain!...And that just leaves each of us with our own interpretations!..And mine is not Extraterrestrial in this case!...just the way I see it,

Cheers .

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 11:15 PM

View Postbee, on 11 November 2012 - 10:10 PM, said:

.

re the Welsh 'UFO event'....I'm totally underwhelmed  (with the Scottish one as well)...

one of the comments with the Welsh video was...




^_^

To me the whole thing looks like it was set up by the family (lights on the hill).....for 'the kid' to film.

Little Nathan was probably the only one not 'in on it'.....

the narrative seems pretty fake to me as well

sorry zoser

I just can't share your enthusiasm for these two videos...

but cheers anyway.. :)

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You are more than likely correct Bee! :tu:


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Posted 11 November 2012 - 11:38 PM

View PostbooNyzarC, on 11 November 2012 - 09:16 PM, said:

Hiya 1963, and yes you're right that the golf course lines up.  I had very similar thoughts as I was looking (and am still looking) into it.

Unfortunately, the golf course itself is over the hill and not visible from the point of view of the camera.  Excellent thinking though, and I'm currently thinking that it may have been a tractor or something similar on the field just this side of the hill.

Good work my friend :tu: ...Or just maybe... the tractors/fairway-maintenance-vehicles were  en-route back to their depot...? :unsure2: lol.


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these are the actual machines used at the Denbigh Golf Club.


...proves nothing, I know...just wanted to post them! :whistle:

Cheers buddy.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 12:03 AM

View Post1963, on 11 November 2012 - 11:13 PM, said:

Zoser, it was me that posted that video you turnip!....

*snipped a lot of additional good stuff*

1963 my friend...  you just brought an ear to ear grin to my face and a tear of joy to my eye...  :D

Thank you for that! :tu:


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Posted 12 November 2012 - 12:09 AM

View Post1963, on 11 November 2012 - 11:38 PM, said:

Good work my friend :tu: ...Or just maybe... the tractors/fairway-maintenance-vehicles were  en-route back to their depot...? :unsure2: lol.


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these are the actual machines used at the Denbigh Golf Club.


...proves nothing, I know...just wanted to post them! :whistle:

Cheers buddy.

It is hard to say at this point exactly what was filmed, but I think they probably found the spot during their walkabout in part 5.  If Petey had been doing his job, he would have followed up on the tractor tracks and disturbed soil in that field they discovered before taking a jaunt down the road.

At any rate I do completely agree with you that this particular case doesn't have ET written anywhere on it (except in the minds of a select few).

Cheers mate, and again...  many thanks for the previous post as well!  :tu:


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Posted 12 November 2012 - 12:24 AM

View Postzoser, on 11 November 2012 - 09:33 PM, said:

If you want something factual; look at the footage.  We don't need text books to tell us facts;  there are other ways.

Hey Zoser, you do realise how reckless that post was around here don't you?...I know what you meant..but it really was a nonsensical thing to say wasn't it!
Anyway, as you are currently highlighting Welsh UFO cases, I was wondering if you had heard of John White's claims to have videoed 9 hours worth of UFO's in the Denbigh area?...it was about seven years ago and made many of the major newspapers...but to this day , I haven't been able to find any of the actual footage to view!...perhaps you could find it?...it would be interesting to see, I reckon!...

http://www.hotspotsz...=18&pagenum=166

...and then there's this unsupported but interesting tale from a guy named Colin Grethe about a potential-UFO near-fatal encounter....

http://www.bbc.co.uk...lingrethe.shtml

...not to mention perhaps the most famous Welsh UFO-crash story, The Berwyn Mountain UFO Incident....

http://www.ufocasebo.../wales1974.html

http://www.disclose....ent_Wales_1974/

...and then, there's my favourite welsh story [with a possible UFO connection]...The Egryn Lights Phenomenon from 1905....

http://www.ignacioda...,FSR71V17N4.pdf

...which appears prominently in Jacques Vallee's Passport To Magonia, and I find a fascinating piece of history, whether as a series of UFO events, or as an example of religious beliefs gone wild and mass hallucination !


Cheers buddy.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 02:24 AM

View Post1963, on 11 November 2012 - 08:48 PM, said:

Hi Boony!,Zoser!, and Synch!

I'll go out on a lim here... :innocent:

I discussed this particular case on another forum some months ago. And remember dismissing it, because for if nothing-else, my gut-feeling was that it was a hoax perpetrated by the whole family. [including  the family documentary maker]...Not that they deliberately created the anomalous-looking sight!...but rather, they know exactly what they had filmed, and decided that it looked mysterious enough to "Cash In" on the damn-thing!
The 'chimney idea'  never crossed my mind.[and still seems rather remote]..But I do still favour 'something-on-the-hill theory'...And reviewing the first instalment of the "Genuine UFO" film,..I noticed that the lady mentions that the lights emanated from the general direction of "The Denbigh Golf Club"!....And being an occasional [but excellent] golfer myself,...I know that my own golf club does it's general maintenance through the night!....And I hope that I am not being too sceptical here,...but after watching the tape again, I believe that a group of brightly-lit ground-staff vehicles , innocently going about their duties,...might just look like the "Genuine UFO" in the Denbigh film?

Anyway...I have left a message via the club's website, requesting information on any 'nocturnal maintenance work' that could possibly have been carried out on or about the 3rd of january.
...It is late sunday evening here...So i'll wait and see if i'm anywhere near the mark on this one. :whistle:


Cheers buddy.
Never thought of contacting the golf club myself.  Mind you I did wonder why the filmaker didn't do that, as he did comment on the tractor marks on the turf.  Then again, maybe he did contact them and the club confirmed they had turf equipment manoevers that night...and he said nothing because he's enjoying the cashflow from the Youtube hits.
I believe Boony left a comment on the Youtube video (on top on mine) asking the uploader where the missing minutes of the video are.
Something else that stuck me as odd just today.  The filmaker comments about the third kids room being redecorated to a "cosmic" theme just before the sighting.  He seems to be speculating that this might have some paranormal implications beyond being a simple coincidence.  It adds nothing to the facts of the case, but does make it more appealing to the Galactic Command crowd.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 08:49 AM

View Post1963, on 11 November 2012 - 11:15 PM, said:

You are more than likely correct Bee! :tu:


Cheers.

thanks 1963....not sure if I've got it exactly right...ie that it was ALL for Nathan...although he might not have been 'in on it'.....

and what was he doing up at 3am watching telly !!!  (without going back to check, think this is what he said)




I took a look at 'peterglynnfilms' channel....and this was the first (other than the 'UFO' one) video I looked at (and will probably be the last)



https://www.youtube....F1&feature=plcp


:D


fair play to him if he likes playing around with YouTube.... ^_^ ....BUT....I don't like it when people try and hoax others about UFOs / ET

and he must be chuffed to bits to have found such a popular niche and target audience......


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