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#4561    Slave2Fate

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 06:54 PM

View Postsynchronomy, on 29 November 2012 - 06:49 PM, said:

I'm tuning in late here today.
First thing I thought of viewing the pictures was the mixing bowl scenario, then I scrolled down to see pictures of one...lol.
It's a common prank which I suggested (and others) to be the nature of the "Greek Goats" photo.

When saying "It was up in the air for 8 mins", ...how do you know?  Just based on the testimony of drunks?
The photos could all be independant shots of several "bowl tosses".

Looks to me like the guy in the foreground of a couple of the shots could be the "bowl tosser".

Also, the hood of the car being open being an indication that the car may have been broken down for a while and the occupants got bored?

Why a bowl in the car?  Maybe they brought food to the wedding and were bringing their bowls home?

This one looks a bit hoax-like to me.

I think you may have nailed it Synch. :tu:

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 06:54 PM

View Postsynchronomy, on 29 November 2012 - 06:49 PM, said:

Why a bowl in the car?  Maybe they brought food to the wedding and were bringing their bowls home?



And they just happened to have some means of securing them together before the olympic throwing contest and the rapid fire photography?  Hmm

Edited by zoser, 29 November 2012 - 06:54 PM.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 06:55 PM

View PostSlave2Fate, on 29 November 2012 - 06:54 PM, said:

I think you may have nailed it Synch. :tu:

At least he did more than you did.  Walking into the bar, farting and walking out again without buying a drink.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 06:58 PM

View Postzoser, on 29 November 2012 - 06:54 PM, said:

And they just happened to have some means of securing them together before the olympic throwing contest and the rapid fire photography?  Hmm


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I still know people who keep this stuff even in their new cars. It would fit in with Synch's idea of a vehicle breakdown.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 06:59 PM

View Postzoser, on 29 November 2012 - 06:55 PM, said:

At least he did more than you did.  Walking into the bar, farting and walking out again without buying a drink.

I hope you liked it, it was just for you. I was saving it for a special occasion.


See, I can be immature too. :P

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 06:59 PM

View Postsynchronomy, on 29 November 2012 - 06:49 PM, said:

I'm tuning in late here today.
First thing I thought of viewing the pictures was the mixing bowl scenario, then I scrolled down to see pictures of one...lol.
It's a common prank which I suggested (and others) to be the nature of the "Greek Goats" photo.

When saying "It was up in the air for 8 mins", ...how do you know?  Just based on the testimony of drunks?
The photos could all be independant shots of several "bowl tosses".

Looks to me like the guy in the foreground of a couple of the shots could be the "bowl tosser".

Also, the hood of the car being open being an indication that the car may have been broken down for a while and the occupants got bored?

Why a bowl in the car?  Maybe they brought food to the wedding and were bringing their bowls home?

This one looks a bit hoax-like to me.
indeed, I try to,as people know, be entirely fair & reasonable about these, but it doesn't look as if they'd literally just that moment got out of the car to be confronted by a strange & puzzling phenomenon. It does look as if they'd been there for some time, and maybe had got bored.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 06:59 PM

View PostSlave2Fate, on 29 November 2012 - 06:58 PM, said:

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I still know people who keep this stuff even in their new cars. It would fit in with Synch's idea of a vehicle breakdown.

Your ingenuity never ceases to utterly amaze.  Well done again.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 07:01 PM

View PostSlave2Fate, on 29 November 2012 - 06:59 PM, said:


See, I can be immature too. :P

I fully realise just what you can be.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 07:20 PM

View Postzoser, on 29 November 2012 - 06:54 PM, said:

And they just happened to have some means of securing them together before the olympic throwing contest and the rapid fire photography?  Hmm
Zoser, I'm speculating.
In attempting to "prove" or at least find a slim indication that the ETH can even be considered, we must "speculate" on all possible explanations.  Unfortunately the ETH is a lame horse and ALWAYS comes in last in any race.
“extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.”

They are driving an old car.  I have done this many times myself, when driving and "old beater" I always had a roll of ducktape and a pair of Vicegrips in the trunk.  You'd be amazed what you can fix with those tools.

Zoser, you are letting your enthusiasm to find the truth, bias your analysis of cases...again.

But I admire your tenacity.  Don't stop.
It may be you who will end up being the first to submit "Exhibit A".
TIP:  If you do find it, make sure you "moneytize" your Youtube account!

Edited by synchronomy, 29 November 2012 - 07:21 PM.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 07:26 PM

View Postzoser, on 29 November 2012 - 06:55 PM, said:

At least he did more than you did.  Walking into the bar, farting and walking out again without buying a drink.

How did you know I enjoy doing that?...and I've done my research.
Proof of telepathy:
Two people in an elevator, one slips out the "silent but deadly" type.
Instantly and without any verbal communication, both individuals know who did it!

Edited by synchronomy, 29 November 2012 - 07:28 PM.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 07:34 PM

View Postsynchronomy, on 29 November 2012 - 07:26 PM, said:

How did you know I enjoy doing that?...and I've done my research.
Proof of telepathy:
Two people in an elevator, one slips out the "silent but deadly" type.
Instantly and without any verbal communication, both individuals know who did it!

Wouldn't that be proof of nasal-epathy? :lol:

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 07:35 PM

View Postsynchronomy, on 29 November 2012 - 07:20 PM, said:

Zoser, I'm speculating.
In attempting to "prove" or at least find a slim indication that the ETH can even be considered, we must "speculate" on all possible explanations.  Unfortunately the ETH is a lame horse and ALWAYS comes in last in any race.
“extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.”

They are driving an old car.  I have done this many times myself, when driving and "old beater" I always had a roll of ducktape and a pair of Vicegrips in the trunk.  You'd be amazed what you can fix with those tools.

Zoser, you are letting your enthusiasm to find the truth, bias your analysis of cases...again.

But I admire your tenacity.  Don't stop.
It may be you who will end up being the first to submit "Exhibit A".
TIP:  If you do find it, make sure you "moneytize" your Youtube account!

It's a theory.  It has to be.  Then again let's look at it a different way:

One of the pair has declined to discuss it completely the other only with some reluctance.   Neither appear to have an interest in the subject but instead seem ordinary very down to earth guys.

The investigator was impressed with his sincerity and felt that his lack of interest in the subject appeared to lend credence to the story.  The story that is told is that their car stalled and so did a Russian coach.  The guy's initial instinct was that someone was throwing two bowls in the air.  He confirms that there was no one around to actually do this.

If the bowls were in the car, what then?  The pair glue them together and decide to enact a hoax?  Possibly.  They throw the object into the air and happen to capture it with the tilt close to horizontal?  Well maybe they snapped a hundred shots and cherry picked these 5?  All possible I suppose.

The objects do not look close to me.  One looks quite a respectable distance.  I think that the hoax story lacks credibility.  

Remember I did say that this case would attract controversy; I don't own it.  I brought it to your attention.  That's all.

What annoys me is the way that certain people proceed; a total unwillingness to review the case that has with it a definite sense of arrogance.  No attempt at putting forward facts and reasons.  

A translation of the guys youtube testimony would be extremely useful.

Edited by zoser, 29 November 2012 - 07:37 PM.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 07:39 PM

View Postsynchronomy, on 29 November 2012 - 07:20 PM, said:


It may be you who will end up being the first to submit "Exhibit A".
TIP:  If you do find it, make sure you "moneytize" your Youtube account!


It's been done a dozen or more times on this thread already.    The Kumburgaz case being in my view one of the best; even Boon could not debunk it.  

There are other cases too.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 07:41 PM

View PostSlave2Fate, on 29 November 2012 - 07:34 PM, said:

Wouldn't that be proof of nasal-epathy? :lol:
Since I "believe" in telepathy, I guess I am guilty of confirmation bias! :whistle:

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 07:43 PM

View Postzoser, on 29 November 2012 - 07:39 PM, said:

It's been done a dozen or more times on this thread already. The Kumburgaz case being in my view one of the best; even Boon could not debunk it.  

There are other cases too.
I don't mean a historical case, you can be sure they have been thrashed out already.
Post some video of ET at your family's Christmas dinner...that sort of thing.

At the heart of science is an essential balance between two seemingly contradictory attitudes--an openness to new ideas, no matter how bizarre or counterintuitive they may be, and the most ruthless skeptical scrutiny of all ideas, old and new.
This is how deep truths are winnowed from deep nonsense. -- Carl Sagan




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