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[Scepticus]

Sorry if this has been posted before.

(Phys.org) -- Early on the morning of June 30th, 1908, a huge explosion occurred in a remote part of Siberia near the Podkamennaya Tunguska River. So great was the blast that trees were knocked down in neat rows for nearly a thousand square miles and the sky lit up from parts of Asia to Great Britain. What caused that explosion has never been firmly settled. Most researchers agree that it was the result of either a comet or meteoroid, with most leaning towards the former due to the lack of both an impact crater and meteoroid fragments. Now however, a research team from Italy says that they have found proof that it was in fact a meteorite that struck the Earth and that a nearby lake is the impact crater. They have published the results of their findings in Geochemistry, Geophysics, Geosystems.

http://phys.org/news...eko-impact.html

[Habitat]

I'd be sceptical about this supposed solution, according to the early reports trees were left standing at the epicentre, supposedly directly under an air-burst, that doesn't fit with this at all.

[HMS Dreadnought]

I'm still very un-sure of what happened here, it fascinates me.

[Pax Unum]

Theres fairly strong evidence that an air burst occurred, so maybe the meteorite broke up in the atmosphere and a piece hit the ground and a piece air burst...

[zoser]

Scepticus, on 21 June 2012 - 10:22 AM, said:

Sorry if this has been posted before.

(Phys.org) -- Early on the morning of June 30th, 1908, a huge explosion occurred in a remote part of Siberia near the Podkamennaya Tunguska River. So great was the blast that trees were knocked down in neat rows for nearly a thousand square miles and the sky lit up from parts of Asia to Great Britain. What caused that explosion has never been firmly settled. Most researchers agree that it was the result of either a comet or meteoroid, with most leaning towards the former due to the lack of both an impact crater and meteoroid fragments. Now however, a research team from Italy says that they have found proof that it was in fact a meteorite that struck the Earth and that a nearby lake is the impact crater. They have published the results of their findings in Geochemistry, Geophysics, Geosystems.

http://phys.org/news...eko-impact.html

No it wasn't ; it was an alien craft and it left behind some biological black oil substance.  Agent Mulder went there and he saw it, so there.

[g00dfella]

I thought it was Tesla's death ray????

[Hazzard]

Pax Unum, on 21 June 2012 - 06:52 PM, said:

Theres fairly strong evidence that an air burst occurred, so maybe the meteorite broke up in the atmosphere and a piece hit the ground and a piece air burst...

If the lake really is an impact crater, and if the "object" is a fragment of a meteor, and if it hit back in 1908, that seem like a logical explanation.

[DONTEATUS]

ANd the tricj word of the day is "Logical" and for the rest of the skeptics and non-believers out there THey did find agent Muldner`s and Skully`s undergarments scattered all over the area ! Now thats Alien foreplay !

[psyche101]

zoser, on 21 June 2012 - 06:54 PM, said:

No it wasn't ; it was an alien craft and it left behind some biological black oil substance.  Agent Mulder went there and he saw it, so there.

Been watching more of your "documentaries" I see?

[keninsc]

I think this is funny. The Tanguska event has been "solved" since the thirties or so.

[badeskov]

Scepticus, on 21 June 2012 - 10:22 AM, said:

Sorry if this has been posted before.

(Phys.org) -- Early on the morning of June 30th, 1908, a huge explosion occurred in a remote part of Siberia near the Podkamennaya Tunguska River. So great was the blast that trees were knocked down in neat rows for nearly a thousand square miles and the sky lit up from parts of Asia to Great Britain. What caused that explosion has never been firmly settled. Most researchers agree that it was the result of either a comet or meteoroid, with most leaning towards the former due to the lack of both an impact crater and meteoroid fragments. Now however, a research team from Italy says that they have found proof that it was in fact a meteorite that struck the Earth and that a nearby lake is the impact crater. They have published the results of their findings in Geochemistry, Geophysics, Geosystems.

http://phys.org/news...eko-impact.html

Actually, I wold be a bit skeptical of that for 3 reasons:

• It was an air burst, so pieces of the meteoroid should have been found all over the place and not only in the bottom of a lake (whether impact crater or not).
  
• Meteoroids are typically high in Iridium contents, however, no significant deposits from that time was discovered.
  
• The sky was lit up in the evening in ways consistent with comet impacts.

To me it sounds more like a comet and not a meteoroid.

Cheers,
Badeskov

[docyabut2]

Geophysical hypothesis
Astrophysicist Wolfgang Kundt has suggested the Tunguska event was caused by the sudden release and subsequent explosion of 10 million tons of natural gas from within the Earth's crust.^[64][65] The similar verneshot hypothesis has also been suggested as a possible cause of the Tunguska event.<sup>[66]


http://en.wikipedia..../Tunguska_event


I tend to go with this hypotesis a, radiation or radon blast, in light of of the booms people are experiencing  today.


http://naturalsociet...ation-incident/</sup>

Edited by docyabut2, 22 June 2012 - 08:25 AM.

[Scepticus]

badeskov, on 22 June 2012 - 06:47 AM, said:

Actually, I wold be a bit skeptical of that for 3 reasons:

• It was an air burst, so pieces of the meteoroid should have been found all over the place and not only in the bottom of a lake (whether impact crater or not).
  
• Meteoroids are typically high in Iridium contents, however, no significant deposits from that time was discovered.
  
• The sky was lit up in the evening in ways consistent with comet impacts.

To me it sounds more like a comet and not a meteoroid.

Cheers,
Badeskov

Hi Badeskov.

I can't agree with your points on this one.

1. There could be many reason why no pieces of meteorite was found.
2. Incorrect,  high levels of Ir was found. Read this - http://adsabs.harvar...P&SS...46..179H
3. Meteorites can do exactly the same thing.

BTW a meteoroid becomes a meteorite or a meteor as soon as it has contact with Earths atmosphere.

Edited by Scepticus, 22 June 2012 - 08:52 AM.

[Scepticus]

docyabut2, on 22 June 2012 - 08:18 AM, said:

Geophysical hypothesis
Astrophysicist Wolfgang Kundt has suggested the Tunguska event was caused by the sudden release and subsequent explosion of 10 million tons of natural gas from within the Earth's crust.^[64][65] The similar verneshot hypothesis has also been suggested as a possible cause of the Tunguska event.<sup>[66]


http://en.wikipedia..../Tunguska_event


I tend to go with this hypotesis a, radiation or radon blast, in light of of the booms people are experiencing  today.


http://naturalsociet...ation-incident/</sup>

When I first heard of this hypothesis I thought it was plausible. But when I started to look into this event in depth, this hypothesis became more and more unlikely.

Most of the evidence points to an "object" not from this Earth.

[Timonthy]

Habitat, on 21 June 2012 - 11:21 AM, said:

I'd be sceptical about this supposed solution, according to the early reports trees were left standing at the epicentre, supposedly directly under an air-burst, that doesn't fit with this at all.

If they were directly under it then they would have felt more vertical force than horizontal so if not completely destroyed may have survived standing.

Edited by Timonthy, 22 June 2012 - 09:19 AM.