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[deerslayer]

I'm curious what yall think about Holder lying to congress, and his refusal to turn over all the requested documents, plus why did Obama envoke executive privilege to protect him.

[jugoso]

deerslayer, on 21 June 2012 - 06:48 PM, said:

I'm curious what yall think about Holder lying to congress, and his refusal to turn over all the requested documents, plus why did Obama envoke executive privilege to protect him.

Obviously they have something to hide. They promised to "get to the bottom of it" and since that time have not cooperated with the investigation. I think it is best expressed by Brian Terry´s family (officer killed by F&F weapon)

For more than 18 months we have been asking our federal government for justice and accountability.  The documents sought by the House Oversight Committee and associated with Operation Fast and Furious should be produced and turned over to the committee.  Our son lost his life protecting this nation, and it is very disappointing that we are now faced with an administration that seems more concerned with protecting themselves rather than revealing the truth behind Operation Fast and Furious.

I think their attitudes are very similar to this

[Clyde the Glyde]

Of course they have something to hide. Because it was never about tracking the guns. It was all an attempt at a way of introducing new anti-gun legislation.  Obama and Holder was hoping that there would be an outrage as to why all of these straw-purchased guns made their way across the border.  It backfired on them. Their actions resulted in a border guard being killed by one of these guns.

[P4UL N0153]

Why? Because it's useful. And Obama is a Hypocrite.

"You know, there's been a tendency on the part of this administration to -- to try to hide behind executive privilege every time there's something a little shaky that's taking place. And I think, you know, the [Bush] administration would be best served by coming clean on this. ...I think the American people deserve to know what was going on there." - Barack Obama, 2007

[Rafterman]

It could very well end his Presidency before the voters have a chance to do so in November.

It makes Watergate look like a 6-year-old lying about stealing a piece of bubble gum.

[RavenHawk]

I don't care ... Obama is awesome!

This is the most transparent Administration in history.



You're damned right it is transparent, it's just unfortunate that it's taken this long for many of the faithful to wake up.

On one hand he send guns into Mexico to kill Mexicans (and ends up killing Americans) and with the other hand, he's giving Amnesty to Illegals (who are better citizens than he is) - WTF!!!

[Babe Ruth]

Holder and his boss are both criminal b******* and domestic enemies of the Constitution and the rule of law.

[Gromdor]

Eh, Nothing has happened with all the information that is already out.  I think the Republicans are fishing for something more.  Who knows though, the way Obama is acting, maybe his Birth Certificate is in there.

[Wandering]

Interesting... Have not heard anything about this on Aus media.

[Mr. Smith]

deerslayer, on 21 June 2012 - 06:48 PM, said:

I'm curious what yall think about Holder lying to congress, and his refusal to turn over all the requested documents, plus why did Obama envoke executive privilege to protect him.

Same thing I thought when Bush did it for Alberto Gonzales with the whole torture issue.  People trying to do what's best but are just too detached from reality to know a fudgeknuckle idea when they see one.

Babe Ruth, on 21 June 2012 - 08:22 PM, said:

Holder and his boss are domestic enemies of the Constitution and the rule of law.

By that standard so have the past 8 presidents going back to Johnson. They've all been slowly turning up the water temperature ever so slowly on us frogs...and unless we change paths someday it WILL boil. IMO Romney is really, really itching to get his baby soft hands on that dial.

[Babe Ruth]

I must agree with you on that Framling--several of the occupants of the White House have been enemies of the Constitution.

All it really means is that they all serve the same masters, and We The People are NOT those masters.

[ninjadude]

Wandering, on 21 June 2012 - 11:56 PM, said:

Interesting... Have not heard anything about this on Aus media.

because it's a right wing conspiracy theory. nothing more.

[Corp]

This is a big screw up and Obama should just be open about it, admit any mistakes, and then try to fix them. Ignoring the issue and hoping people will forget about it will only make things worst.

[WoIverine]

With the media and members of the president's own party slowly beginning to distance themselves from him, and Romney attending Bilderberg, one would almost think that everything has already been decided. Clinton himself already appears to be in Romney's corner. Here's to hoping that Rand Paul will grab the VP slot, even though it doesn't seem likely.

Edited by Spid3rCyd3, 22 June 2012 - 05:40 PM.

[Mantis914]

ninjadude, on 22 June 2012 - 03:46 PM, said:

because it's a right wing conspiracy theory. nothing more.

I would say dead border agents and countless dead Mexicans adds up to more than a conspiracy theory...

This is just one caught, who knows how many others get through and who sent them...

http://www.huffingto...n_1611865.html?