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#31    Eddy_P

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 03:23 AM

View PostWinter Summer, on 28 June 2012 - 01:22 PM, said:

…Eddy_P and Ronald Pegg are one in the same…..We've been down this road before…
Yes we have, but I will repeat myself anyway - for those who are new to Ronald Pegg’s amazing discoveries. I have also been asked similar questions elsewhere. Copy of previous answers to these questions..........

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Can you prove Ronald Pegg exists? Who is he?Where is he from?When was he born? Where?Show us a photo.Show us peer reviewed work.Show us his credentials.How do you know him?Where did you meet?Who are his relatives?etc etc.

Prior to 2002, a Victorian man named John Page commenced placing information about Ronald Pegg on the internet. The first was on 11-17  September 2001, with others following in October and then November 2001.
A search brings up these Archived Posts: http://www.grahamhan...=1&fldsubject=1
I also helped post some of Pegg’s work later, plus my own research - which you mention in your post.

Page also set up, re-edited and re-formatted the RonPeggDiscoveries website in 2001. When I took over the project in March 2002 I took this over, and recently, I closed the domain name due to ongoing costs, and annexed it to the PPHC-SG website.
Copy of RonPeggDiscoveries website

Page was Pegg’s proof reader while I was the proof Printer. I received Pegg’s work from John who had proof read it, then conducted test prints, then returned disks and the print outs via the post box set up to do this.

I never met John nor Ron, but someone delivered and cleared the post office box prior to Feb 2002.

When he left the project in 2002, Ronald Pegg provided us with copies of both written documents and visual presentations for us to study and evaluate. Some are still yet to be made available to the public.


RE: “Who is Ronald Pegg? Where is he from? When was he born?”

This information is contained in his autobiography.
He says he worked on his project in Townsville, Queensland, and was born on 10 December 1957 (same as me!).
I have placed nearly everything I know about Ronald Pegg on a separate website

When I confirmed that Ronald Pegg’s name was known by Nostradamus along with the town in which he worked, as well as the dates of Pegg’s work, I concentrated upon what I could verify instead of what I could not. When I affirmed that the Bible not only names Pegg but outlines the dates of his discoveries, I took this as being part of and relevant to the whole time travel quandary.


RE: “Can you prove Ronald Pegg exists?”

Honestly no.
I do have copies of his letters to me and associates signed ‘Ronald Pegg’.
But I suppose having 1,000 pages of research and speaking to someone on the telephone from area code 07 (ie. Queensland) calling himself Ronald Pegg - does not actually prove there IS a Ronald Pegg.

This forces the question “Who sent me all that research, and who spoke to me on the telephone ?
I once tried to locate him in Townsville, Queensland. I went as far a scanning the telephone books in three States for the surnames of Pegg and Page, and found some startling coincidences - besides wasting heaps of time and being diverted from my studies.
For example, in the Adelaide white pages telephone book, in the surrounding suburbs to where I live there are 17 Page listings and 2 for the name Pegg. I then thought about who was collecting the disks and hard copy from the local post office when I left it there. I made the assumption that either Page is living nearby himself after moving from Melbourne, or it is his relatives who live in Adelaide and are collecting the mail for him. This could also be true for Pegg's relatives. The telephone book shows an address each for both names in the same suburb where I live, plus one of them is only two streets from my home !

But someone involved in Pegg’s project came to or lived near me in Adelaide.


RE: “How do you know him? Where did you meet?”

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Extract from my personal notes.
In September 1997 I travelled to Queensland to attend a friend's wedding. One night after making the arrangements for the wedding we went out clubbing and ended up at a casino. While walking around I came across a group of people having a conversation about religion. They had just finished dinner and had come from a meeting. In those days I normally stayed clear of religious conversations but this one was different, as they were delving into things that I had sometimes though about but did not know who to ask for clarification.

They spoke about the Bible and mentioned things like "the King James Version is corrupt in its translations" and that "there is another level of history within its pages" indicating that the Christian version of the sequence of events pertaining to the New Testament was not what actually chronologically occurred. They appeared to have open minds and were not hostile to my point of view when I pointed out I was not religious and had not read the Bible since I was at school. I stayed with them for about ten minutes then excused myself as my friends were waiting for me. As I was leaving I took the opportunity to give them some of my hobby club business cards.

In early July 1998 I received a STD phone call from a Queenslander called Ronald Pegg. He said that a friend of his had one of my business cards and had recommended me as a person who may have an open mind about some interesting religious type discoveries. Without going into much detail he simply asked me "Did I want a biblical puzzle that concerned actual historical events to examine".
He said there was no catch and that I was under no obligation.

I said OK, and in mid July I received a letter from him.
Examining what he presented warranted further investigation, and as they say, ‘the rest was history’.
That was the beginning of my involvement in Mr Pegg's project.


RE: “A search on the net only shows information you've posted EVERYWHERE in references to his 'historical discoveries'”

Not correct. See earlier section about John Page.
When Page left the project, I took over.
I then presented Pegg’s research on many message boards when it was confirmed, then my own discoveries so they could be investigated. This was over a period of six years. At the moment I am seeking help from interested people on over 30 different message boards.


RE: “This is starting to look like an effort to create a 'reality' on the internet to reference at a later point for what ever reasons that can go from innocence to serious pretty easily.”

Pegg’s work has been on the internet for over ten years. I have been asking people for help for over ninex years. There are only a limited number of interested people in Adelaide where I live, so I turned to the internet where people with similar interests were discussing these topics. I do not have all the answers relating to Pegg’s claims and discoveries.
During the ‘show & tell’ and investigation processes on the internet I was informed that people wanted to view the evidence. So I produced webpages and placed pictures thereon.
Some people then wanted detailed explanation, so I wrote my reports.

Soon it was then pointed out to me that a peer review is required regarding Pegg’s work, so I asked for help with that issue on many forums.

It was then said that to study something a correct procedure is required. This is where the current request for help comes in.
Now that a Search Criterion is nearly complete, previous discoveries can now be evaluated ‘correctly’ plus the new topics provided by interested people via my request for help. Link to methodology: http://www.tt2012.co...avel/index.html


RE: “This whole story is sounding a bit early Scientology or John Titor to me….The legend of Ronald Pegg and his amazing discoveries, come join the 'group' seems like L Ron Hubbard and his amazing discoveries that led to Scientology which led to a religion people devote their lives too.”

When you put it that way it does sound ‘strange’ doesn’t it.
Religion is the furthest thing from my mind.
Also, no one has to ‘join’ anything, they only have to click upon the free pages to read and view the presented evidence.
If people desire to have their names acknowledged with PPHC Study Group then they specifically email me.

I assure you I am just presenting Pegg’s discoveries plus mine on the internet, and asking people to investigate them - on the internet.
Links are given to the webpages, but most are single page links.
As far as the Australian based PPHC-SG goes, yes, there are written reports available along with e-book versions for those who wish to attend and formally study these things.
Some of those as printed books are shelved in various libraries* in South Australia (ie. free to the public), and are indexed, along with Pegg’s documents, with the National Australian Library Archives in Canberra.
* Salisbury, Prospect, Enfield, St Peters, Goolwa, Victor Harbor, Tea Tree Gully, and Mount Gambier Public Libraries

Another PPHC-SH member, Edward_T, posted on the internet regarding Pegg’s work on 20 May 2004:
Pegg’s PaRDeS Booklets and Ancient Chronicles Unsealed (half way down page)

So Pegg’s work plus mine has been in the public eye since 2003 in libraries (and on the internet), yet no ‘sects’ have been spawned - only LOTS of questions and discussions.


RE: “Why is it that your the only source on 'Ronald Pegg' and this information…?”

Pegg left the project in 2002, as did his proof reader (in 2001). I took over. I am now the chief cook and bottle washer, who has been slowly sifting through his work for nearly ten years now. I have set up PPHC Study Group to study these things, and a News and Information website that opened in July 2008. But to date only about half of his discoveries have been investigated. This is why I continue to ask for help on various forums.


RE: “If there's no satisfactory answer in 24 hours then i'll have to delete this thread…..”

From my perspective I have been seeking help from people interested in the possibility of evidence of time travel from over 30 different forums from all around the world. I believe that is what the internet is for.
I have asked for help, listened to criticisms (and suffered personal abuse) and changed my web pages to accommodate those issues, and answered questions when I have been able to. I have updated my sites when new information has become available and started discussions regarding those new topics.

I have no control over what you believe to be ‘correct’, so if you decide to delete this thread then it is your decision.
In any case I thank you for your (and other member’s) discussions and the relevant questions you have asked of me. I have answered honestly and to the best of my ability.

Yours Faithfully,
Eddy Pengelly
On behalf of PPHC Study Group (Australia)
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Posted 29 June 2012 - 03:25 AM

View Postlightly, on 28 June 2012 - 12:04 PM, said:

ok. One thing i have always found absolutely fascinating is that the first thing created, according to God , in the book of Genesis ,  was *LIGHT*. I'm not sure if that exactly agrees with the 'scientific' notion of the Big Bang..., as photons may not have been the very first energy to emerge ?  from the famous  "singularity" ..  BUT,  according to that theory,  *LIGHT* was, for all intents and purposes,  the first thing 'created' ?   To me, that is an amazing coincidence.
Not only that,  but then the light was DIVIDED!   ...  light energy/dark energy?? Positive/Negative??   It just makes me wonder how and why the writer of the book of genesis came up with that idea!?!?!?!? ...  or where the writer may have borrowed the idea from ??  
  Does anyone know of earlier or other creation accounts in which *LIGHT*  is the first creation?

Interesting that in the Egyptian creation account  Ra emerges out of a giant blue lotus on the similar preexisting darkness and WATER.. then  Light was created by RA on the first day.

This Apache creation story is also an interesting parallel ?  
http://www.indians.o...er/creation.htm
   . . . "In the beginning nothing existed--no earth, no sky, no sun, no moon, only darkness was everywhere.

Suddenly from the darkness emerged a thin disc, one side yellow and the other side white, appearing suspended in midair. Within the disc sat a small bearded man, Creator, the One Who Lives Above. As if waking from a long nap, he rubbed his eyes and face with both hands.

When he looked into the endless darkness, light appeared above. He looked down and it became a sea of light. To the east, he created yellow streaks of dawn. To the west, tints of many colours appeared everywhere. There were also clouds of different colours."

Or the Greek version in which Light is born of Love :
http://www.desy.de/g...h/creation.html
. . . "In the begining there was only chaos. Then out of the void appeared Erebus, the unknowable place where death dwells, and Night. All else was empty, silent, endless, darkness. Then somehow Love was born bringing a start of order. From Love came Light and Day. Once there was Light and Day, Gaea, the earth appeared.
Then Erebus slept with Night, who gave birth to Ether, the heavenly light, and to Day the earthly light. Then Night alone produced Doom, Fate, Death, Sleep, Dreams, Nemesis, and others that come to man out of darkness."
  
  Anyway,  I think it's fascinating that creation stories the world over share that idea with  the "scientific" version of creation!!
Let there be *LIGHT* :)

That's because all religions borrow stories from each other, borrow gods from each other and celebratory days from each other to make converting easier.

"No no, It wasn't HORUS that was from a virgin birth, It was JESUS.. see that's where your church went wrong.." <Kinda like that.
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Posted 29 June 2012 - 03:29 AM

View PostZaraKitty, on 29 June 2012 - 03:25 AM, said:

That's because all religions borrow stories from each other, borrow gods from each other and celebratory days from each other to make converting easier.

"No no, It wasn't HORUS that was from a virgin birth, It was JESUS.. see that's where your church went wrong.." <Kinda like that.

someone aught to copyright that stuff...

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 03:56 AM

you know I was going to do a long post.. replies to bits you have said.. etc..

doing the whole rebuttle to the idea's.. theories and delusions on what you posted..

but to be honest.. it would be a waste of time.. you believe what your saying is true.. sadly enough.. there will be others in the world that will agree.. kinda like the ancient alien crowd..

so I would be wasting my time .. my fingers.. etc..

so I will say.. just one thing..

Keep your flux capacitor running smooth.. and the next time you hear of one of the time traveling humans from the future popping in some where.. tell them to pay me a visit and have a coffee..

Oh just had a though..

I wonder if they have had a companion called Rose.. or Donna..

I think the attached pic sums this up so well..

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 06:10 AM

View PostEddy_P, on 29 June 2012 - 03:10 AM, said:

Ronald Pegg has done that and found the Bible’s words and stories are about time travel encounters, being human messengers showing ancient people the contents of several cd-roms on a computer.
It is basically as simple as that. Sit down with the texts and cd-roms and what Pegg says is clearly evident.
I see where the confusion is happening.
I'm asking for evidence and you're repeating yourself.

You put the onus on Theists to prove that God exists as we believe he does and on the Atheists to prove that he doesn't exist at all.
I refuted the first on the grounds that I don't need to prove I believe that God exists as it's self-evident that I believe thus. The second is up to an Atheist. That leaves you to pony up with some evidence of your statement.

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 06:16 AM

If I can get past the burning George Bush, I am a chance of believing this !!!

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 07:41 AM

View PostEddy_P, on 29 June 2012 - 03:10 AM, said:

I see where the confusion is happening.
You are perceiving my statement of ‘the God reported in the Bible as described at Genesis 1:1 and in (parts) of Exodus (and elsewhere) is not about a divine being - I have written and physical proof of this’ - as simply - ‘God does not exist, so your Faith is wrong’.

It is not the mythical religious ‘God’ to which I refer. That ‘God’ is the conclusion made by religious people from their interpretation of the Bible.
It is the words and descriptions in the texts that Ronald Pegg said is describing something quite different.

Pegg is not strictly saying that the mythical religious God does not exist and faith is wrong, BUT that the original meaning and context of the words in the Old Testament do NOT support that religious conclusion.
(Well OK, if their conclusion is incorrect, then they are wrong - and there is no God. But it is not the mythical God we are trying to prove. It is the written source from which they came to their conclusion.)

Religious people believe in God - without any evidence (which is the anecdotal evidence of which you speak) and is called faith.
Atheists deem there is no God - without producing any evidence.

Ronald Pegg says that both groups are in error and are both arguing about a mythical being, instead of investigating what the original words actually say about this ‘God’.

Of course one can not prove something that does not exist.
But in the minds of religious people, their perceived God does exist.
So the basis of their conclusion for that belief is what needs to be investigated. ie. their evidence - which they say are the words and descriptions in the Bible

Ronald Pegg has done that and found the Bible’s words and stories are about time travel encounters, being human messengers showing ancient people the contents of several cd-roms on a computer.
It is basically as simple as that. Sit down with the texts and cd-roms and what Pegg says is clearly evident.

Well great logic God does not exists so you wrong?

Let me counter your statement, Time travel does not exists so you are wrong...

See how easy that was wow - no proof no evidence just a statement and now you MUST believe it. Poof so there you go.

Oh and mermaid are real and so is the boogie man.... seriously mate claims and you opinion without backing are as good as me shooting in the dark trying to hit a star... POINTLESS.

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 08:52 AM

Go back in time, give them iPads. Lul at cavemen using advanced tech.
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Posted 29 June 2012 - 11:29 AM

View PostZaraKitty, on 29 June 2012 - 03:25 AM, said:

That's because all religions borrow stories from each other, borrow gods from each other and celebratory days from each other to make converting easier.

"No no, It wasn't HORUS that was from a virgin birth, It was JESUS.. see that's where your church went wrong.." <Kinda like that.
hi ZaraKitty, (purrrr)   Yes,  i understand about stories passed down and passed around.  It's not MY church.. None of them.  I have my own beliefs.  i'm just repeating what has been written.  The main point i was trying to make is...  I still find it absolutely fascinating that so many religious writings have *LIGHT*  being the first , or nearly first thing "created"   and so do the teachings of  'Science'.   I find that remarkable.   Anybody getting my point yet?  :)
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Posted 29 June 2012 - 12:04 PM

View Postlightly, on 29 June 2012 - 11:29 AM, said:

I still find it absolutely fascinating that so many religious writings have *LIGHT*  being the first , or nearly first thing "created"   and so do the teachings of  'Science'.   I find that remarkable.   Anybody getting my point yet?  :)

I don't know that there's anything particularly mysterious about that. ZaraKitty has it right about how derivative many creation stories are. But even if they weren't related, I think we'd still see light as preeminent.

To have an appreciation of the light, you must also have experienced darkness. Light is associated with daytime and safety. The darkness is where the scary things wait.

I wonder how much different our creation stories would be if we had no such experience. Like the inhabitants of Asimov's "Nightfall". A planet that orbits four suns so that darkness never falls - except for once every few thousand years when everyone goes mad and destroys civilisation.

Edited by Arbenol68, 29 June 2012 - 12:05 PM.


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Posted 29 June 2012 - 12:06 PM

View Postlightly, on 29 June 2012 - 11:29 AM, said:

hi ZaraKitty, (purrrr)   Yes,  i understand about stories passed down and passed around.  It's not MY church.. None of them.  I have my own beliefs.  i'm just repeating what has been written.  The main point i was trying to make is...  I still find it absolutely fascinating that so many religious writings have *LIGHT*  being the first , or nearly first thing "created"   and so do the teachings of  'Science'.   I find that remarkable.   Anybody getting my point yet?  :)

They came one after the other and adopted it. Sorry, it's just the way ancient civilizations worked. They saw it worked for other countries and took it :)
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Posted 29 June 2012 - 01:23 PM

View Postlightly, on 29 June 2012 - 11:29 AM, said:

hi ZaraKitty, (purrrr)   Yes,  i understand about stories passed down and passed around.  It's not MY church.. None of them.  I have my own beliefs.  i'm just repeating what has been written.  The main point i was trying to make is...  I still find it absolutely fascinating that so many religious writings have *LIGHT*  being the first , or nearly first thing "created"   and so do the teachings of  'Science'.   I find that remarkable.   Anybody getting my point yet?  :)

what?

christianity i think is the only one... but hey your american which means darn every other country and its beleifs right?
and science does not think light was the first thing. i hate how people do this, stop trying to superimpose your beliefs onto science to staple some for of credit to it.

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 03:41 PM

View Postlightly, on 29 June 2012 - 11:29 AM, said:

hi ZaraKitty, (purrrr)   Yes,  i understand about stories passed down and passed around.  It's not MY church.. None of them.  I have my own beliefs.  i'm just repeating what has been written.  The main point i was trying to make is...  I still find it absolutely fascinating that so many religious writings have *LIGHT*  being the first , or nearly first thing "created"   and so do the teachings of  'Science'.   I find that remarkable.   Anybody getting my point yet?  :)
Hi lightly
"The Nasadiya Sukta, the Hymn of Creation in the Rig Veda (10:129) mentions world beginning from a point or bindu, through the power of heat."
And heat is a type of light isnt it? Are you looking for fossils of science in religious text?

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 03:41 PM

View Postthewatchman7, on 29 June 2012 - 01:23 PM, said:

what?

christianity i think is the only one... but hey your american which means darn every other country and its beleifs right?
and science does not think light was the first thing. i hate how people do this, stop trying to superimpose your beliefs onto science to staple some for of credit to it.
You're right, I'm not certain what science thinks came first during the big bang, I'd imagine it would only be a split second difference between the first and second and third things that happened after the big bang.. Hmm, I'll have to look more in to it!
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Posted 29 June 2012 - 07:09 PM

View PostEddy_P, on 29 June 2012 - 03:23 AM, said:

Yes we have, but I will repeat myself anyway - for those who are new to Ronald Pegg’s amazing discoveries. I have also been asked similar questions elsewhere. Copy of previous answers to these questions..........

RE:

Prior to 2002, a Victorian man named John Page commenced placing information about Ronald Pegg on the internet. The first was on 11-17  September 2001, with others following in October and then November 2001.
A search brings up these Archived Posts: http://www.grahamhan...=1&fldsubject=1
I also helped post some of Pegg’s work later, plus my own research - which you mention in your post.

Page also set up, re-edited and re-formatted the RonPeggDiscoveries website in 2001. When I took over the project in March 2002 I took this over, and recently, I closed the domain name due to ongoing costs, and annexed it to the PPHC-SG website.
Copy of RonPeggDiscoveries website

Page was Pegg’s proof reader while I was the proof Printer. I received Pegg’s work from John who had proof read it, then conducted test prints, then returned disks and the print outs via the post box set up to do this.

I never met John nor Ron, but someone delivered and cleared the post office box prior to Feb 2002.

When he left the project in 2002, Ronald Pegg provided us with copies of both written documents and visual presentations for us to study and evaluate. Some are still yet to be made available to the public.


RE: “Who is Ronald Pegg? Where is he from? When was he born?”

This information is contained in his autobiography.
He says he worked on his project in Townsville, Queensland, and was born on 10 December 1957 (same as me!).
I have placed nearly everything I know about Ronald Pegg on a separate website

When I confirmed that Ronald Pegg’s name was known by Nostradamus along with the town in which he worked, as well as the dates of Pegg’s work, I concentrated upon what I could verify instead of what I could not. When I affirmed that the Bible not only names Pegg but outlines the dates of his discoveries, I took this as being part of and relevant to the whole time travel quandary.


RE: “Can you prove Ronald Pegg exists?”

Honestly no.
I do have copies of his letters to me and associates signed ‘Ronald Pegg’.
But I suppose having 1,000 pages of research and speaking to someone on the telephone from area code 07 (ie. Queensland) calling himself Ronald Pegg - does not actually prove there IS a Ronald Pegg.

This forces the question “Who sent me all that research, and who spoke to me on the telephone ?
I once tried to locate him in Townsville, Queensland. I went as far a scanning the telephone books in three States for the surnames of Pegg and Page, and found some startling coincidences - besides wasting heaps of time and being diverted from my studies.
For example, in the Adelaide white pages telephone book, in the surrounding suburbs to where I live there are 17 Page listings and 2 for the name Pegg. I then thought about who was collecting the disks and hard copy from the local post office when I left it there. I made the assumption that either Page is living nearby himself after moving from Melbourne, or it is his relatives who live in Adelaide and are collecting the mail for him. This could also be true for Pegg's relatives. The telephone book shows an address each for both names in the same suburb where I live, plus one of them is only two streets from my home !

But someone involved in Pegg’s project came to or lived near me in Adelaide.


RE: “How do you know him? Where did you meet?”
Examining what he presented warranted further investigation, and as they say, ‘the rest was history’.
That was the beginning of my involvement in Mr Pegg's project.


RE: “A search on the net only shows information you've posted EVERYWHERE in references to his 'historical discoveries'”

Not correct. See earlier section about John Page.
When Page left the project, I took over.
I then presented Pegg’s research on many message boards when it was confirmed, then my own discoveries so they could be investigated. This was over a period of six years. At the moment I am seeking help from interested people on over 30 different message boards.


RE: “This is starting to look like an effort to create a 'reality' on the internet to reference at a later point for what ever reasons that can go from innocence to serious pretty easily.”

Pegg’s work has been on the internet for over ten years. I have been asking people for help for over ninex years. There are only a limited number of interested people in Adelaide where I live, so I turned to the internet where people with similar interests were discussing these topics. I do not have all the answers relating to Pegg’s claims and discoveries.
During the ‘show & tell’ and investigation processes on the internet I was informed that people wanted to view the evidence. So I produced webpages and placed pictures thereon.
Some people then wanted detailed explanation, so I wrote my reports.

Soon it was then pointed out to me that a peer review is required regarding Pegg’s work, so I asked for help with that issue on many forums.

It was then said that to study something a correct procedure is required. This is where the current request for help comes in.
Now that a Search Criterion is nearly complete, previous discoveries can now be evaluated ‘correctly’ plus the new topics provided by interested people via my request for help. Link to methodology: http://www.tt2012.co...avel/index.html


RE: “This whole story is sounding a bit early Scientology or John Titor to me….The legend of Ronald Pegg and his amazing discoveries, come join the 'group' seems like L Ron Hubbard and his amazing discoveries that led to Scientology which led to a religion people devote their lives too.”

When you put it that way it does sound ‘strange’ doesn’t it.
Religion is the furthest thing from my mind.
Also, no one has to ‘join’ anything, they only have to click upon the free pages to read and view the presented evidence.
If people desire to have their names acknowledged with PPHC Study Group then they specifically email me.

I assure you I am just presenting Pegg’s discoveries plus mine on the internet, and asking people to investigate them - on the internet.
Links are given to the webpages, but most are single page links.
As far as the Australian based PPHC-SG goes, yes, there are written reports available along with e-book versions for those who wish to attend and formally study these things.
Some of those as printed books are shelved in various libraries* in South Australia (ie. free to the public), and are indexed, along with Pegg’s documents, with the National Australian Library Archives in Canberra.
* Salisbury, Prospect, Enfield, St Peters, Goolwa, Victor Harbor, Tea Tree Gully, and Mount Gambier Public Libraries

Another PPHC-SH member, Edward_T, posted on the internet regarding Pegg’s work on 20 May 2004:
Pegg’s PaRDeS Booklets and Ancient Chronicles Unsealed (half way down page)

So Pegg’s work plus mine has been in the public eye since 2003 in libraries (and on the internet), yet no ‘sects’ have been spawned - only LOTS of questions and discussions.


RE: “Why is it that your the only source on 'Ronald Pegg' and this information…?”

Pegg left the project in 2002, as did his proof reader (in 2001). I took over. I am now the chief cook and bottle washer, who has been slowly sifting through his work for nearly ten years now. I have set up PPHC Study Group to study these things, and a News and Information website that opened in July 2008. But to date only about half of his discoveries have been investigated. This is why I continue to ask for help on various forums.


RE: “If there's no satisfactory answer in 24 hours then i'll have to delete this thread…..”

From my perspective I have been seeking help from people interested in the possibility of evidence of time travel from over 30 different forums from all around the world. I believe that is what the internet is for.
I have asked for help, listened to criticisms (and suffered personal abuse) and changed my web pages to accommodate those issues, and answered questions when I have been able to. I have updated my sites when new information has become available and started discussions regarding those new topics.

I have no control over what you believe to be ‘correct’, so if you decide to delete this thread then it is your decision.
In any case I thank you for your (and other member’s) discussions and the relevant questions you have asked of me. I have answered honestly and to the best of my ability.

Yours Faithfully,
Eddy Pengelly
On behalf of PPHC Study Group (Australia)
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First lets discuss eddy_p/ronald pegg.  They are IMO one and the same.  eddy keeps referring to ronpeggdiscoveries.com as evidence for mr pegg's existence, yet according to the internet archives the website did not come into existence until some months after me pegg's supposed departure from the project.  This combined with the fact that you can use almost any name for your website and do not have to be the person the site is about to use the name invalidates the site as evidence for my peggs existence.

Mr Pegg supposedly exhausted all avenues to get his discoveries out to the public but there are no internet sources to back this up and he certainly would have used the internet as a medium to get the message out.

If I remember rightly, one of the reasons given by eddy in a post on the net for Mr pegg leaving the project was fearing for his life or the lives of his family or both (can't recall it too well).  Based on the invalidity of the material it would not be a reason anyone chose but could be used to put a non-existent person to rest so to speak.  All in all it really points to the two being one and the same.

Second we'll discuss time travel.  Eddy if time travel were developed in the future it would not be the time travel you and others envision.  Time travel is not space travel so you would remain in the same spot but appear at a different time.  However, the Earth moves about 43 million miles a day.  So if you go back one day you appear where the Earth was but it is now 43 million miles away.  You go back a year and the Earth is over 15 billion miles away.

Let's say that they also allow for space travel with this time machine.  You go back one year then travel through space but it would take one whole day at the speed of light to reach where the Earth is now located.  Go back a hundr3ed years you are traveling through space for more than a month.  If you go back a thousand years you are traveling nearly 3 years to reach the Earth.  This is of course accepting that the calculations of where the Earth would be were 100% accurate and they would have to be since one small error would leave you lost with no way of finding the Earth.

So you see, Time travel, even if developed, would be impractical to use to visit the past or future.

My next post(s) will detail the errors on your main site and those things you have proposed as evidence.  Before I go I would like to congratulate you on taking what was considered unevidenced, unsupported views (despite your opposite view) and turning it into a full fledged scam.  As I showed earlier in this post, time travel, even if developed would be impractical yet on your new site tt2012 you are more than willing to charge people $148 a head just to tell them about it as well as those supposed discoveries of the non-existent mr pegg.
The sheer odds of a civilization advancing, developing space travel, deciding to search our little corner of the galaxy, arriving at just the right time and actually helping us is so huge, you would have a greater chance of winning several lotteries in a single year. - SensibleLogic




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