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Crazy 1981 Rome Ohio Bigfoot incident

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#1    scowl

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 04:53 PM

I posted this on the UFO section a couple of years ago and no one knew anything about it. The Bigfoot fans may know more. If true, this is a series of the most extensive Bigfoot encounters and investigation ever. And not just Bigfoot... UFOs, creatures that can morph into a horse, and a creature that looked something like an alien owl. This is nearly Mothman Prophecies quality stuff.

I'm thinking it's all made up because I have found no mention of it hardly anywhere. Bigfoot proponents never refer to it. There was a cheap self published booklet with the wild title "Night Siege: The Northern Ohio UFO Creature Invasion" which described every encounter over several days and that was the last of it. Also the "investigation" involved traps and guns and men running around in a field all night, yet no cameras and no lights stronger than a flashlight. They sound like a bunch of yokels fixin' to bag themselves a Sasquatch.

Investigator Ron Schaffner wrote a report that was supposedly three parts but I was only able to find the first two. The third was supposed to be a reasonable explanation for it all and I've never found a trace of it. To see the first two parts, you even need to use these Wayback Machine links since the original web pages have been removed:

Part I

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 05:25 PM

http://www.unknownex...onschaffner.php


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Investigative team in Vinton County, Ohio: Left to right: Bill Johns, Ron Schaffner, Earl Jones and GEORGE GREENE. Copyright Ron Schaffner, 1980.




POSSIBLE HOAX IN THE WAYNE NATIONAL FOREST

MacArthur, Ohio Reports

Vinton County - Southern edge of the Wayne National Forest.

The alleged sightings occurred on August 11, 24 and October 5, 10, 1980

Investigators: Ron Schaffner, Earl Jones, Bill Johns, George Greene

The MacArthur sightings were probably the most talked about case of 1980. The Columbus Dispatch and the AP wires were pouring out stories of hunters who believed to have found several Bigfoot creatures. The majority of sightings occurred east of MacArthur, Ohio, on U.S. 50. To make sure that you - the reader fully understand the scope of the situation, we will present the background of the incidents in question and our investigative documents. There will be conflicting statements between the media and others involved. With all the facts before us, it will show that this particular case has a high probability of hoax.....................................


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Posted 28 June 2012 - 06:08 PM

I think this is a different case. The encounters described in "Night Siege" happened June 25th through July 7th in 1981 followed by a semi-successful bait experiment on August 21-22.

That's right. A farm was being terrorized by Bigfoots with glowing eyes and other paranormal creatures for two months with no serious investigation. They didn't set traps. They didn't install lighting. They didn't take pictures. The family chose to sit on their roof all night and shoot at the things. That doesn't sound very plausible. Schaffner claimed to have an explanation but that's gone missing.

"Night Siege" is available at this link. I really enjoy the matter of fact style of it, much like John Keel's fiction-as-fact books.


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Posted 28 June 2012 - 08:30 PM

One good thing, these creatures are light eaters. A couple ducks, a chicken, split between how many red-eyed entities...they'd probably choke on a human. But darn, they sure must like poultry. :gun:

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 11:59 PM

There are more head-scratchers in Night Siege. One Bigfoot apparently attacked a horse. And they didn't eat the ducks -- just bit their heads off. No one can tell me what those things eat, especially during the winter.

The witness describes Bigfoot in sharp detail in the booklet but the officer's report says "He said it looked like it could be a bear" and "It has always been dark when they see it so he hasn't gotten a real good look at it." They found several "paw prints" in the ground. The pictures of the casts look like paw prints to me. I'd hate to jump to a conclusion based on a police report and some pictures. Fortunately these boring details are quickly forgotten in the more exciting parts afterwards.

How can you not like Bigfoots carrying blue flashlights? Really, they saw them carrying blue flashlights. Also the researchers "saw the back woods light up as bright as day... three times in a five minute period." Too bad they only had guns instead of cameras.


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Posted 29 June 2012 - 01:03 AM

I thought they may have eaten the ducks' brains. lol
Sounds like they could have used some smarts. Risking buckshot repeatedly for a bit of poultry?

I like how that investigator took off cross country in the middle of it all. A very typical bigfoot investigation modus operandi, that.

A lot of it makes no sense and I'm not talking about any of the cryptid/paranormal either.

Always amusing to read these stories, though.

At the time I lived one hour from there and my best friend much closer. Never heard about it though.

Edited by QuiteContrary, 29 June 2012 - 01:05 AM.


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Posted 29 June 2012 - 02:37 AM

shouldnt the shots have atleast wound the animal?

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 09:52 AM

View Postscowl, on 28 June 2012 - 04:53 PM, said:

I posted this on the UFO section a couple of years ago and no one knew anything about it. The Bigfoot fans may know more. If true, this is a series of the most extensive Bigfoot encounters and investigation ever. And not just Bigfoot... UFOs, creatures that can morph into a horse, and a creature that looked something like an alien owl. This is nearly Mothman Prophecies quality stuff.

I'm thinking it's all made up because I have found no mention of it hardly anywhere. Bigfoot proponents never refer to it. There was a cheap self published booklet with the wild title "Night Siege: The Northern Ohio UFO Creature Invasion" which described every encounter over several days and that was the last of it. Also the "investigation" involved traps and guns and men running around in a field all night, yet no cameras and no lights stronger than a flashlight. They sound like a bunch of yokels fixin' to bag themselves a Sasquatch.

Investigator Ron Schaffner wrote a report that was supposedly three parts but I was only able to find the first two. The third was supposed to be a reasonable explanation for it all and I've never found a trace of it. To see the first two parts, you even need to use these Wayback Machine links since the original web pages have been removed:

Part I

Part II
Wow, amazing story with great details!! The three toed prints too!! Much appreciated! One of the best cryptid sagas around!

The object, known by the locals as "Bicho Voador" (Flying Animal), or "Bicho Sugador" (Sucking Animal), has the shape of a rounded ship and attacks people in isolation.

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 04:52 PM

View Postcsspwns, on 29 June 2012 - 02:37 AM, said:

shouldnt the shots have atleast wound the animal?

They said that they had wounded the animals several times. They heard screams several times after they shot at them. One time they believed they saw one fall to the ground but think other Bigfoots dragged the injured one away. Of course they didn't bother to follow them into the woods after this happened. At one point they did go slightly into the wood line and believe they heard an injured animal in the brush but there's no explanation as to why they didn't pursue it like any competent hunter would have.

They never thought to set trip wires or snares or bear traps like any hunter would have. Instead they set up a ridiculously elaborate "trap" using rabbits tied to milk crates that would... wait, what were they supposed to do? They never said what they expected to happen other than the Bigfoots would have been lured to them and break a cyanide capsule inside the rabbits if they were immediately eaten. Did they expect a 900 lbs. Bigfoot to start munching on a bunny and immediately fall to the ground? Did I mention these guys were incompetent?

Instead they brought flashlights and guns. Obviously their plan was to bag themselves a Bigfoot (assuming the story is true) but it's not clear they even had the weaponry to do it. They were shooting at bear-sized animals from long distances. Despite the many many shots fired and the complete ineffectiveness of their shots, the story didn't mention what guns they had been using other than a 12 gauge shotgun and a tiny .410 shotgun. These two will stop and injure a bear at close range but good luck killing a nine foot monster with one. It sounds like they had also been shooting high powered rifles later on (it mentions "loaded guns of various power [sic]") but there were no specifics about the guns they used. This is odd since two shotguns were specifically mentioned in the beginning and their inability to kill or seriously injure one with any gun is the largest mystery of the tale.

One correction: Night Siege mentions that they did have 35mm and larger 120 format (incorrectly described as "120 mm") cameras with them yet they only used them to take pictures of prints afterwards. Even in 1981 there existed powerful flashes that could light up a large backyard enough for ISO 100 film. They could have rented or bought powerful spotlights that would have instantly illuminated the area at any time they creatures appeared, yet it never occurred to these incompetent investigators to take pictures of the frightening creatures. They had several very close encounters which could have easily been photographed to some degree using high speed film and a tripod. At one point the story vaguely says they were photographing "to the best of our ability." Sounds like they didn't know how to do that.

Edited by scowl, 29 June 2012 - 04:58 PM.


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Posted 30 June 2012 - 11:40 AM

Here's a link Night Siege The Ohio UFO Creature Invasion by Dennis Pilichis

Edited by SunnyBlues, 30 June 2012 - 11:44 AM.

The object, known by the locals as "Bicho Voador" (Flying Animal), or "Bicho Sugador" (Sucking Animal), has the shape of a rounded ship and attacks people in isolation.

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 01:53 PM

Greetings! The Rome Ohio event was not a hoax. Any links to the original report are not legal or authorized. Please remove any links to the original report. :td:
The author dis-aasocated himself from Ron Shaffner having an intense falling out over 30 years ago. Ron mentions a Willaird McIntyre. Williard was the one obsessed with bigfoot.
One could write a whole book on Mcintyre.
The author was treated badly by certain sountern ohio "researchers"
There is much more documentation regarding this incident.
The original report was stolen out from under him by a southern researcher, posted on the net, and offered it to anyone who wanted it. As of 2005, he was still freely offering it.
I am sorry to bring this up but it is true. :td:
The author and some of the family witnesses were made fun of in a horribly mean newspaper article punlished in 2006. The "researcher" was an associate and buddy of Ron.
There was more then one family involved in the manifestation.
There was four families, three different police agencies, and a total of about 16 people involved. :yes:
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We have been silent all these years. after 30 years nobody changed their story.
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Posted 11 April 2013 - 05:41 PM

View Postpara-mythologist, on 11 April 2013 - 01:53 PM, said:

Greetings! The Rome Ohio event was not a hoax. Any links to the original report are not legal or authorized. Please remove any links to the original report. :td:
The author dis-aasocated himself from Ron Shaffner having an intense falling out over 30 years ago. Ron mentions a Willaird McIntyre. Williard was the one obsessed with bigfoot.
One could write a whole book on Mcintyre.
The author was treated badly by certain sountern ohio "researchers"
There is much more documentation regarding this incident.
The original report was stolen out from under him by a southern researcher, posted on the net, and offered it to anyone who wanted it. As of 2005, he was still freely offering it.
I am sorry to bring this up but it is true. :td:
The author and some of the family witnesses were made fun of in a horribly mean newspaper article punlished in 2006. The "researcher" was an associate and buddy of Ron.
There was more then one family involved in the manifestation.
There was four families, three different police agencies, and a total of about 16 people involved. :yes:
You all will hear from me again. I speak wiuth authority and honesty.
We have been silent all these years. after 30 years nobody changed their story.
Thank you peace! :tu:

Did I read the article correctly?
9-1/2 feet tall
six-foot stride
feet shorter than mine?
I wear a size 8 US

Northern Ohio?
Rome, Ohio?
Exactly where in Ohio was the location of this event?
Lived in one and went to school near the other, at the time, never heard about this.

Edited by QuiteContrary, 11 April 2013 - 05:42 PM.


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Posted 11 April 2013 - 07:16 PM

View Postpara-mythologist, on 11 April 2013 - 01:53 PM, said:

Greetings! The Rome Ohio event was not a hoax. Any links to the original report are not legal or authorized. Please remove any links to the original report. :td:


Where might someone be able to legally purchase it?

If it's not a hoax, it's one of the most important and well documented paranormal incidents in history. It is more important than the Patterson footage. Odd that no one knows anything about it.


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Posted 11 April 2013 - 07:18 PM

View PostQuiteContrary, on 11 April 2013 - 05:41 PM, said:

Northern Ohio?
Rome, Ohio?
Exactly where in Ohio was the location of this event?
Lived in one and went to school near the other, at the time, never heard about this.

That's one of the most confusing things about it. Rome is in Southern Ohio, right? Apparently the events took place in some unspecified farm somewhere in Northeastern Ohio, even though it says it's near Rome.


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Posted 11 April 2013 - 08:11 PM

View Postscowl, on 11 April 2013 - 07:18 PM, said:

That's one of the most confusing things about it. Rome is in Southern Ohio, right? Apparently the events took place in some unspecified farm somewhere in Northeastern Ohio, even though it says it's near Rome.

Apparently, the Rome, Ohio in Ashtabula County (northeast Ohio). Didn't remember a "Rome" town up there.
Again, not far from where I a from and have lots of relatives, friends up there. Never heard anyone talk about it.

These events are not isolated and "effect a cross section of microcosm Americana"!

Edited by QuiteContrary, 11 April 2013 - 08:29 PM.





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