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[TheMacGuffin]

booNyzarC, on 02 July 2012 - 04:26 AM, said:

I'd be interested in seeing the original(s?) of picture 1 to see if there might be any context, and to know where and when exactly it was drawn.  Could the "UFO" actually be depicting caves?  Hard to say, but it sure would be interesting to see other artwork from the same area and time frame.

As for the second, I am somewhat familiar with the picture.  I don't know if this will be considered of value to you, but I'll share it anyway.  Explained?  As far as I'm concerned it's explained, but to each his own eh?

If you do find more regarding picture 1, please do post it.

Cheers.

Well, I'm 100% certain that DBunker was only posting these "ancient alien" pictures as a joke, since he always says that everything related to UFOs is pure nonsense.  

I'm not foolish enough to go out on a limb and pretend that I know enough about the Stone Age and ancient history to even begin to talk about these periods intelligently.  That Egyptian picture does look different when it's in sharper focus, so it is actually a vase of flowers.

This is DBunker's link to the "UFO Cave Paintings".

http://www.google.co...vLYuo8gTmrOCGAg


And if you click on that particular picture it links to this website.

http://www.12vn.net/...ufo-aliens.html

Edited by TheMacGuffin, 02 July 2012 - 05:13 AM.

[booNyzarC]

Cheers for that McGuffin.  Like you, I'm not really qualified to make an educated assessment of these images.  I still find the first image to be interesting though, despite that.  It looks like a picture taken from some kind of tv show?  Perhaps it was on Ancient Aliens or something.  Circa 6000 BC.  I really do wonder what the rest of that cave wall looks like.

Cheers.

[TheMacGuffin]

I'm still digging around, although at 34 seconds into this video there is some cave painting that really does look like a rocket, assuming that it is an authentic cave painting rather than something added in there later by a hoaxer.

Edited by TheMacGuffin, 02 July 2012 - 05:27 AM.

[TheMacGuffin]

booNyzarC, on 02 July 2012 - 05:09 AM, said:

Cheers for that McGuffin.  Like you, I'm not really qualified to make an educated assessment of these images.  I still find the first image to be interesting though, despite that.  It looks like a picture taken from some kind of tv show?  Perhaps it was on Ancient Aliens or something.  Circa 6000 BC.  I really do wonder what the rest of that cave wall looks like.

Cheers.

I know I've seen that first picture before somewhere, and I'd almost like to say that it was from Australia, but I can't remember.  I'll keep looking for it.

[booNyzarC]

TheMacGuffin, on 02 July 2012 - 05:25 AM, said:

I know I've seen that first picture before somewhere, and I'd almost like to say that it was from Australia, but I can't remember.  I'll keep looking for it.

Thanks McGuffin, I think you might be right.  It does have an Australian look to it.

[lost_shaman]

TheMacGuffin, on 02 July 2012 - 03:57 AM, said:

I admit that I don't know beans about the Neolithic Era, but when I see something like this I really do a double take.  What is this thing supposed to be, anyway?

Looks like a "hunt" to me, and the "UFO" is an "Eye" so that their Ancestors can watch them from the Spirit World.

Edited by lost_shaman, 02 July 2012 - 05:35 AM.

[SwampgasBalloonBoy]

Hazzard, on 30 June 2012 - 08:04 AM, said:

I have tried to make it through an entire episode of the (C2C George Nory) TV show Ancient Aliens without turning channels in disgust at its outlandishness, but Ive always failed. It disappoints me to realize Im not as open-minded as I once thought I was.  Ancient Aliens aside, I do wonder if there are authenticated reports of strange aerial phenomena occurring in earlier, including ancient, times in various parts of the world.

Through a Google search, I learned that in his book, Passport to Magonia, Jacques Vallee discusses  such sightings.  Ive never read the book, but Im curious about it,... Have any of you read it?  To those who have, is much of it woo woo?

Here is a link to a two-part interview with Jacques Vallee that I found interesting:  


http://www.ufoeviden...ents/doc839.htm

I dont believe ET is zipping around out there observing us, or that some form of multi-dimensional consciousness controls our thoughts.  I dont with a whisk of my hand discount the possibility of either idea, but I certainly am skeptical.  Is ET spying on us?  Are we, as Terence McKenna once said, “part of a symbiotic relationship with something which disguises itself as an extraterrestrial invasion so as not to alarm us”?  

To the UFO community I would say this - Present irrefutable evidence that your claims are true.  Bring us an alien or some other physical evidence supporting your claims.  Oh, and with regard to “UFOs are windows to other dimensions” hypotheses,... please stop pulling wacky-sounding notions out of your buttocks and presenting them as revelations.

Show us the evidence for them.

Hazzard, on 30 June 2012 - 08:04 AM, said:

To the UFO community I would say this - Present irrefutable evidence that your claims are true.  Bring us an alien or some other physical evidence supporting your claims.  Oh, and with regard to “UFOs are windows to other dimensions” hypotheses,... please stop pulling wacky-sounding notions out of your buttocks and presenting them as revelations.

Show us the evidence for them.

This is impossible unless they want to to know. It would be easier to ask a person to capture an eagle with their bare hand, and I assume we are more intelligent than an eagle.

[Slave2Fate]

lost_shaman, on 02 July 2012 - 05:34 AM, said:

Looks like a "hunt" to me, and the "UFO" is an "Eye" so that their Ancestors can watch them from the Spirit World.

Hey LS, good to see you around.

I'm no expert in pre-historic pictographs however if it's from a tribal culture that seems to be a fair guess.

[SwampgasBalloonBoy]

itsnotoutthere, on 01 July 2012 - 06:20 PM, said:

Yes, I too have seen strange things in the sky, but at no point did or do i conclude that they were of alien origin, they were merely unidentifiable.

I don't think anyone can be 100% sure of UFO to be alien in origin. My brother and I witness in broad daylight two silvery, round object making zig-zag maneuver from side to side at 90 degree angle, at an incredible speed. One flying behind the other and were in perfect synchronization with every movements. Then they fly up higher and higher until out of sight. Even I can't conclude that they are of alien origin, but I can only assume. As long as no one on earth came forward and claim ownership of these things, then I can only assume they are not from here.

Sorry folks, for the redundant post above. I am new to this thing, so I am still learning to navigate.

[quillius]

lost_shaman, on 02 July 2012 - 05:34 AM, said:

Looks like a "hunt" to me, and the "UFO" is an "Eye" so that their Ancestors can watch them from the Spirit World.

Hey LS, I dont see the eye myself, especially as it seems to have 'figures' in the eye/craft. I have been looking into rock art quite a bit lately and have never seen an 'eye' depicted in this way elsewhere, and one would think it would be quite common if based on the spirit world.

I would also note a majority of 'hunt' scenes always show the 'spear' when depicting a hunt and this is not easily visible in the picture.

so I am not convinced that the answer is as you suggest.....

[Slave2Fate]

TheMacGuffin, on 02 July 2012 - 03:57 AM, said:

I found this design at an online gift store kind of place.



This is a line of text underneath the image.

Quote

There is substantial evidence, in ancient art, that extraterrestrials have visited our planet in prehistory. Inspired by strange pictographs and cave art seen around the world.

I believe it is from the image designer and it would indicate that this image is 'inspired' by UFO's in ancient art/pictographs. It may be an legitimate pictograph although I've yet to find the original.

http://www.zazzle.co...003196817444226

(Mods, sorry for the link to a merchandise site, it was the only place I found the image so far. I'm not trying to sell or promote this or any other item from that site.)

[quillius]

Slave2Fate, on 02 July 2012 - 08:30 AM, said:

I found this design at an online gift store kind of place.



This is a line of text underneath the image.




I believe it is from the image designer and it would indicate that this image is 'inspired' by UFO's in ancient art/pictographs. It may be an legitimate pictograph although I've yet to find the original.

http://www.zazzle.co...003196817444226

(Mods, sorry for the link to a merchandise site, it was the only place I found the image so far. I'm not trying to sell or promote this or any other item from that site.)

ahh so the spear is visible

edit to add: they must have been fighting the aliens who were abducting all the cattle in a 'beam me up scotty' kind of way

Edited by quillius, 02 July 2012 - 08:35 AM.

[Slave2Fate]

quillius, on 02 July 2012 - 08:34 AM, said:

ahh so the spear is visible

edit to add: they must have been fighting the aliens who were abducting all the cattle in a 'beam me up scotty' kind of way

I'd probably throw a spear or two myself if they were trying to make off with my cows!

[quillius]

Slave2Fate, on 02 July 2012 - 08:40 AM, said:

I'd probably throw a spear or two myself if they were trying to make off with my cows!

braver man than me S2F....I would run for the hills



edit to add: they should make drive throughs wider to fit a UFO, this may bring an end to cattle mutilations...they have always struggled to replicate a big mac.......dumb aliens.

Edited by quillius, 02 July 2012 - 08:43 AM.

[Slave2Fate]

quillius, on 02 July 2012 - 08:42 AM, said:

braver man than me S2F....I would run for the hills



edit to add: they should make drive throughs wider to fit a UFO, this may bring an end to cattle mutilations...they have always struggled to replicate a big mac.......dumb aliens.

Yeah, you're right, I'd probably get 'probed' for my troubles.