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[Arbitran]

The Mule, on 15 July 2012 - 08:53 PM, said:

if evolution....or creation for that matter, was intelligent....then why do I have nipples?

Well, up until about three months into gestation, we're all sort of unisex; the organs which later become male and female sexual parts are indistinguishable up until around one-third of the way through the pregnancy. Females need nipples for nursing; males don't do this, but the substrate needed for the females to have nipples is present in males as well; males simply don't develop these in the same way that females do, and they remain essentially vestigial.

[The Mule]

spare parts that cant be used. would it be intelligent to put a non-fucntioning air conditioner in an automobile?

[WilliamW]

The Mule, on 15 July 2012 - 09:33 PM, said:

i rest my case

Really?  

Maybe you have them so you can pierce them?  

You are thinking intelligence would be perfect?

In your estimation imperfection is having nipples?  Because there is no 'need' for them?

Perhaps evolution will remedy the imperfection eventually?

After all, these thing take time.

And evolution has got buckets of that.  There was a whole other world of critters before the present lot came along.  Seems they ate themselves out of existence but them being here has helped us be here.


"I Rest My Case"  lol!  That is so funny!  What would happen if evolution were to say that so soon into its existence!

Edited by WilliamW, 15 July 2012 - 09:46 PM.

[Arbitran]

The Mule, on 15 July 2012 - 09:42 PM, said:

spare parts that cant be used. would it be intelligent to put a non-fucntioning air conditioner in an automobile?

No, it would not. Of course, I won't get into how incomparable human beings and automobiles are, but anyway...

[ShadowSot]

Wisdom teeth, the appendix, a back no intended for upright walking (which keeps physiotherapists in a job and makes chiropractors look like they're doing something), our brain itself is a layered construct of newer layers over older ones.

Then there's the Recurrent laryngeal nerve...

[The Mule]

right....spare parts that serve no purpose....creating species and killing them off....none of these things are intelligent. Is it intelligent to have hair under your arm? No its is not. Just admit that either God is flawed, or that evolution is random, just as it should be.

[Arbitran]

The Mule, on 15 July 2012 - 10:13 PM, said:

right....spare parts that serve no purpose....creating species and killing them off....none of these things are intelligent. Is it intelligent to have hair under your arm? No its is not. Just admit that either God is flawed, or that evolution is random, just as it should be.

Well, evolution isn't random... but it can certainly leave behind a lot of useless vestiges...

[ShadowSot]

The Mule, on 15 July 2012 - 10:13 PM, said:

right....spare parts that serve no purpose....creating species and killing them off....none of these things are intelligent. Is it intelligent to have hair under your arm? No its is not. Just admit that either God is flawed, or that evolution is random, just as it should be.

Evolution isn't random, it's worthwhile to look into it a little further before saying stuff like that.

[The Mule]

you guys do realize you're debating evolution with an evolutionary dead-end, dont you?

[Arbitran]

ShadowSot, on 15 July 2012 - 10:20 PM, said:

Evolution isn't random, it's worthwhile to look into it a little further before saying stuff like that.

Wow, great minds think alike I suppose. How many times is that today that we've independently written the same thing?

The Mule, on 15 July 2012 - 10:22 PM, said:

you guys do realize you're debating evolution with an evolutionary dead-end, dont you?

What?

[ShadowSot]

Arbitran, on 15 July 2012 - 10:22 PM, said:

Wow, great minds think alike I suppose. How many times is that today that we've independently written the same thing?

Heh.

While evolution's path may be random (if we were to rewind the clock and play things forward, it's unlikely the same course of evolution would reemerge. Something that was shown with a genetic study recently where bacteria were given a recreated genome of an ancient form of bacteria and took on a different path.
However, the actual process itself is non random.

[Arbitran]

ShadowSot, on 15 July 2012 - 10:25 PM, said:

Heh.

While evolution's path may be random (if we were to rewind the clock and play things forward, it's unlikely the same course of evolution would reemerge. Something that was shown with a genetic study recently where bacteria were given a recreated genome of an ancient form of bacteria and took on a different path.
However, the actual process itself is non random.

Indeed.

[WilliamW]

The Mule, on 15 July 2012 - 10:22 PM, said:

you guys do realize you're debating evolution with an evolutionary dead-end, dont you?

Broaden your horizons Mule.

Even if humans create a dead end system and run with that, there is time for another species to be evolved from the dust of human extinction.
Evolution has already proved that it is able to enhance and improve on the older forms.  

Not to mention that there are likely other human type species - even in this Galaxy which have chosen a different path which is not a dead end system and thus  thrive with their environment.

[MarvelAtTheWords]

Arbitran, on 15 July 2012 - 10:22 PM, said:

Wow, great minds think alike I suppose. How many times is that today that we've independently written the same thing?



What?

He means he is a mule... Evolutionary dead end = mules are sterile beings.

[Mr Right Wing]

WilliamW, on 02 July 2012 - 04:56 AM, said:

I think so.

Evolution is dependant on time.

When it comes to the philosophy of time we dont know if its a dimension or a creation of the mind. If its mind then evolution is connected to your mind.

Edited by Mr Right Wing, 30 August 2012 - 11:39 AM.