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#16    booNyzarC

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 08:43 PM

Have you ever killed anyone?


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Posted 05 July 2012 - 08:45 PM

What are some of your favorite simple pleasures? Like eating ice cream, or being barefoot in grass.. those kind of things.

Your ad hominem connotes your sciolism. Now that is some funny commentary.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 09:04 PM

View PostDruidus-Logos, on 05 July 2012 - 08:39 PM, said:

"I'm currently pursuing a political career.  In ten years, I'll be where I want to be, politically.  I'm very aware of the deficits that are attributed to psychopaths.  For almost five years I've planned this, and I'm not letting it fail.  I'm not the average psychopath, and I will not allow myself to be destroyed by the false perceptions of the neurotypical masses."

I wouldn't call it false perception, it is a trait generally associated with psychopaths, amongst others, like egocentricity.

Would you consider yourself dangerous to someone who threatens your career.


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Posted 05 July 2012 - 09:40 PM

View PostDruidus-Logos, on 05 July 2012 - 07:42 PM, said:

"Other people are simple yet complex.  They are guided by emotions.  I am purely logical, and I do what I want based on my interpretation of this.  I have always been this way.  Neurotypicals are weak, they are unable to be themselves and are chained to the perceptions of other humans.  I am ME.  I will always be ME.  And anyone like me is truly free.  Truly able to do anything.  My operating system comes with more features than other ones, in some ways.  And in others, I lack.  Yet, the features I lack seem to be glitches; they seem to weaken and lessen the power of others.  I am glad that I am different. It makes me superior (emphasis mine), though others might not see it due too the masks I put on."

Ask your "friend" what he thinks the world would be like if there were more people like himself. How would the human race--civilizations, technology, etc.--be different if the world were composed entirely of individuals who think with the mind of a psychopath?

Edited by Cybele, 05 July 2012 - 10:00 PM.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:26 PM

One of our adopted children is a sociopath or maybe even a psychopath.

His entire life can be summed up as a guy who has never spoken to his neighbor in 5 years until he decides he needs his neighbor’s chain saw. So he waits to catch him outside and strikes up a “friendly” conversation with his neighbor so he can ask to borrow it. This sociopath is a “friendly” “charming” fellow so the neighbor feels free talking to him and tells a lot about himself. The sociopath files all this away for future reference to use his neighbor again.

We all might think “So what? Haven’t we all done that to borrow something or get something?”

But this is his entire world. It is how he makes life work for him. This "neighbor" in my example represents every single human in his life. We are objects to our son. He is a chronic liar and manipulator. He has no remorse when he has physically hurt someone or some animal.

Not being able to connect to him except on a very superficial level is heartbreaking. To be lied to and never know which end is up from him is frustrating. To hear of him with a new girlfriend, or a new pet is downright frightening. Seeing his current flame head over heels for him and believing he actually loves her is difficult and fearful.

He has never had therapy and not learned how to be a successful adult as he is.
We love him and can’t help him. We can’t trust him. We can’t allow him alone with our pets or his sister.

It took us 4 years to figure out what we were dealing with, how serious his behavioral issues were. He is an artist at manipulating people and had many years to study people being in and out of foster homes for years.

Anyway, sorry for the rambling but I really do have  questions:
Help?  Some insight? Some directions for dealing with him?  How do you "feel loved"? How might he prefer to be dealt with?
That's too many questions, so anything would be helpful.
PS He is an adult and does not live at home or even near us. But we are in contact with him frequently.

Edited by QuiteContrary, 05 July 2012 - 11:31 PM.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:43 PM

I don't like this thread, I think you are encouraging people to talk behind other people's back but assuming they wouldn't be offended anyway because they are unfeeling psychopaths or sociopaths or whatever. Sorry if it sounds like I am trolling :hmm:

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:44 PM

Of course, it seems rather clear that Druid and his "friend" are the same.
But that's OK, do carry on.


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Posted 06 July 2012 - 12:15 AM

View Postpallidin, on 05 July 2012 - 11:44 PM, said:

Of course, it seems rather clear that Druid and his "friend" are the same.
But that's OK, do carry on.

I was thinking the same. I work with people with severe personality disorders. In over 20 years I never met one that half as much insight. Psychopaths can't define themselves the way the rest of us might. They don't see themselves the way we see them.


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Posted 06 July 2012 - 12:48 AM

View PostVein Capital, on 05 July 2012 - 11:43 PM, said:

I don't like this thread, I think you are encouraging people to talk behind other people's back but assuming they wouldn't be offended anyway because they are unfeeling psychopaths or sociopaths or whatever. Sorry if it sounds like I am trolling :hmm:


Imo, that is the problem, "let's hide things in the closet, you might hurt someone's feelings". I say get it out, search it out. Whatever it takes.

Walk through life with a sociopathic or psychopathic son and see how desperate you become.

His feelings won't be hurt. I would pay the price not him.

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 04:35 AM

I somehow feel threatened but also attracted to this person (well, the idea of them as I don't know them). That got me wondering why I always like the bad guy, ask this person (I assume he knows more about human psychology than I do) why people are attracted to 'bad people'? Daddy issues? A sort of self protection? Curious. Danke.

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 05:36 AM

View PostZaraKitty, on 06 July 2012 - 04:35 AM, said:

I somehow feel threatened but also attracted to this person (well, the idea of them as I don't know them). That got me wondering why I always like the bad guy, ask this person (I assume he knows more about human psychology than I do) why people are attracted to 'bad people'? Daddy issues? A sort of self protection? Curious. Danke.
Why do you like the 'bad guy'?, probably because you're bored with your present situation. 'This person' that you spoke of, is a user. They will never bring something to the table. It's all about them.


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Posted 06 July 2012 - 07:06 AM

What was exact dx? Primary, secondary or dissocial? And its interesting that you and he have formed what appears to be a deep friendship or bond because most psychopaths are not able to form real attachments...so to Druidus, is he your friend or are you his??


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Posted 06 July 2012 - 07:07 AM

View PostLikely Guy, on 06 July 2012 - 05:36 AM, said:

Why do you like the 'bad guy'?, probably because you're bored with your present situation. 'This person' that you spoke of, is a user. They will never bring something to the table. It's all about them.
Hmm, I think you're right. I am very bored. Holidays are such a drag. :) danke!

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 09:26 AM

View PostDruidus-Logos, on 05 July 2012 - 07:42 PM, said:

"Other people are simple yet complex.  They are guided by emotions.  I am purely logical, and I do what I want based on my interpretation of this.  I have always been this way.  Neurotypicals are weak, they are unable to be themselves and are chained to the perceptions of other humans.  I am ME.  I will always be ME.  And anyone like me is truly free.  Truly able to do anything.  My operating system comes with more features than other ones, in some ways.  And in others, I lack.  Yet, the features I lack seem to be glitches; they seem to weaken and lessen the power of others.  I am glad that I am different.  It makes me superior, though others might not see it due too the masks I put on."
What would he think of another psychopath trying manipulate him? I don't think they would see him as superior, but just another tool to be used.


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Posted 06 July 2012 - 11:50 AM

View PostZaraKitty, on 06 July 2012 - 04:35 AM, said:

I somehow feel threatened but also attracted to this person (well, the idea of them as I don't know them). That got me wondering why I always like the bad guy, ask this person (I assume he knows more about human psychology than I do) why people are attracted to 'bad people'? Daddy issues? A sort of self protection? Curious. Danke.

You should only date women, Zara. :D





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