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#106    booNyzarC

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Posted 07 July 2012 - 02:37 PM

View PostCoffey, on 07 July 2012 - 12:21 PM, said:

This is where the tables turn you see and I know the facts... Drugs don't destroy a person, mentla illness or guilt does. The drugs or alcohal just don't help in those cases. I know people who have been taking coke for 10+ years, probably longer than Charlie Sheen and you wouldn't even think it to look at them.
I'm alright with agreeing to disagree on this point.



View PostCoffey, on 07 July 2012 - 12:21 PM, said:

Because Martin Sheen didn't make a public video asking the about it. Also Obama never replied to Charlie Sheen... So how was he given any answers?
As for Charlie's public video, are you really so surprised that Obama didn't respond to it?

If he had responded to it, what kind of precedent would that set?  Public videos about peoples' pet topics would come out of the woodwork.

As for answers, there are plenty of answers for CT claims.  You don't need Obama or any other president to deliver the answers, they are readily available for anyone willing to put in a few hours of honest investigation online.


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Posted 07 July 2012 - 02:41 PM

View Postbee, on 07 July 2012 - 02:11 PM, said:

I wrote a post in another thread about it........#137 here...

http://www.unexplain...c=219063&st=135

Not sure if you're just providing info or if this what you actually believe, bee.  If it is what you actually believe, I guess I'm confused because there's references by you I believe that maybe a truck with explosives was driven up to the Pentagon, and also a diagram showing how three missles from three different trajectories travelled roughly through the same outer hole in the Pentagon to cause three different exit holes.  I'm having trouble seeing how this all coalesces, if it's even supposed to I may be misreading you, into a coherent timeline of events.  Sorry if I'm jumping in the middle, if you've explained that in an earlier post, just let me know and I'll look for myself.

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Posted 07 July 2012 - 02:58 PM

View PostLiquid Gardens, on 07 July 2012 - 02:41 PM, said:

Not sure if you're just providing info or if this what you actually believe, bee.  If it is what you actually believe, I guess I'm confused because there's references by you I believe that maybe a truck with explosives was driven up to the Pentagon, and also a diagram showing how three missles from three different trajectories travelled roughly through the same outer hole in the Pentagon to cause three different exit holes.  I'm having trouble seeing how this all coalesces, if it's even supposed to I may be misreading you, into a coherent timeline of events.  Sorry if I'm jumping in the middle, if you've explained that in an earlier post, just let me know and I'll look for myself.

lol....it's what I said....and up to now it is still the best explanation I can come up with that fits in with the evidence,

In my post I linked to I was speculating that if a truck with explosives made a dash for the Pentagon building then

(3...?) small (ish)  missiles could have been fired at it by Ground Defence..... in the vacinity. Although it could have been just one missile...

if the other two holes were something else.


Or maybe a suicide bomber...or two..., on foot....made a dash for the building and were fired upon...? dunno....

Just trying to figure it all out to my own satisfaction...


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Posted 07 July 2012 - 03:08 PM

View Postbee, on 07 July 2012 - 02:58 PM, said:

lol....it's what I said....and up to now it is still the best explanation I can come up with that fits in with the evidence,

In my post I linked to I was speculating that if a truck with explosives made a dash for the Pentagon building then

(3...?) small (ish)  missiles could have been fired at it by Ground Defence..... in the vacinity. Although it could have been just one missile...

if the other two holes were something else.


Or maybe a suicide bomber...or two..., on foot....made a dash for the building and were fired upon...? dunno....

Just trying to figure it all out to my own satisfaction...

I find it is very strange that there is one relatively small entrance hole, no signs of wings, the second row I have seen no damage, possibly because the angle of view, and the third row there are 3 tiny exit holes which suggest 3 different trajectories, but it's not the one in the middle that corresponds to the "offical" flight approach.

Edited by lliqerty, 07 July 2012 - 03:10 PM.


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Posted 07 July 2012 - 03:34 PM

View Postlliqerty, on 07 July 2012 - 03:08 PM, said:

I find it is very strange that there is one relatively small entrance hole, no signs of wings, the second row I have seen no damage, possibly because the angle of view, and the third row there are 3 tiny exit holes which suggest 3 different trajectories, but it's not the one in the middle that corresponds to the "offical" flight approach.

That's right... it's what he labels number one exit hole.

Perhaps the Official Flight path had to fit in with the damage done to the generator?  Which would be number one exit hole...?


edit to add link with the pics....for anyone else wondering what the hell we're talking about... :D


http://www.911review.../spencer05.html


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Edited by bee, 07 July 2012 - 03:39 PM.


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Posted 07 July 2012 - 03:35 PM

View Postlliqerty, on 07 July 2012 - 03:08 PM, said:

I find it is very strange that there is one relatively small entrance hole,...

What small entrance hole?

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no signs of wings,

Actually, I have already posted a photo as they recovered the wing flaps.

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the second row I have seen no damage, possibly because the angle of view, and the third row there are 3 tiny exit holes which suggest 3 different trajectories, but it's not the one in the middle that corresponds to the "offical" flight approach.

On the contrary, it does. I have also posted where passenger and crew remains of American 77 were recovered within the Pentagon.

Edited by skyeagle409, 07 July 2012 - 03:35 PM.

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Posted 07 July 2012 - 03:46 PM

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only teasing Sky.... ;)

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Posted 07 July 2012 - 04:02 PM

View Postlliqerty, on 07 July 2012 - 03:08 PM, said:

I find it is very strange that there is one relatively small entrance hole, no signs of wings, the second row I have seen no damage, possibly because the angle of view, and the third row there are 3 tiny exit holes which suggest 3 different trajectories, but it's not the one in the middle that corresponds to the "offical" flight approach.
I'm not sure why so many people still appear to believe that there was only one relatively small entrance hole.  May I suggest giving this link a good look-see?


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Posted 07 July 2012 - 04:31 PM

View Postskyeagle409, on 07 July 2012 - 03:35 PM, said:

What small entrance hole?

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Actually, I have already posted a photo as they recovered the wing flaps.



On the contrary, it does. I have also posted where passenger and crew remains of American 77 were recovered within the Pentagon.

The stuff you are saying has already been proven to be wrong.

View PostbooNyzarC, on 07 July 2012 - 04:02 PM, said:

I'm not sure why so many people still appear to believe that there was only one relatively small entrance hole.  May I suggest giving this link a good look-see?

Because we have eyes.


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Posted 07 July 2012 - 04:31 PM

So what size hole you call that?


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Posted 07 July 2012 - 04:34 PM

View Postbee, on 07 July 2012 - 03:34 PM, said:

That's right... it's what he labels number one exit hole.

Perhaps the Official Flight path had to fit in with the damage done to the generator?  Which would be number one exit hole...?


edit to add link with the pics....for anyone else wondering what the hell we're talking about... :D


http://www.911review.../spencer05.html


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Why is it that people smelled cordite (explosives) but no jet fuel?

http://www.frederick...?storyID=130443


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Posted 07 July 2012 - 04:34 PM

View Postlliqerty, on 07 July 2012 - 04:31 PM, said:

Because we have eyes.
Then I suggest you use them to review this link.  :yes:


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Posted 07 July 2012 - 04:42 PM

View PostbooNyzarC, on 06 July 2012 - 06:39 PM, said:

Yes, I see a plane in the footage.



As for the supposed 'other footage', you might want to give this a gander.


(Edit: by the way, 911datasets.org is back up.  It was briefly down last December, but not for long.)
Wow, those earlier reposts of yours from the post above are excellent, especially when you do the compare between those two frames of the Pentagon video.  I hadn't really paid that much attention to this video and had always thought that this video just showed an indiscernable white blob.  But I think my perspective has been entirely off on where the camera position is and what I was expecting to see.  Am I correct that it appears that you can see the entire plane in one of the shots?  There are a few features I see:  you can see a purplish horizontal line running down a wider lighter horizontal line which is the entire fuselage with the AA red, white and blue stripes, what looks like the vertical stabilizer, and then a whiter portion that seems to continue of the right side of the frame which I assume is smoke or something; the point being, it appears that the entire plane is in the shot and part of it is not off frame?  I've been totally thrown-off, I was expecting the plane to be much larger in perspective relative to the pentagon, but I think it's because in the video I can't tell exactly how far down the pentagon outer wall the plane hits, there's just an explosion.  But from the camera's perpective because of the distance the plane looks smaller, and I also realize thinking about it that I don't know how much taller the Pentagon is relative to the height of AA77.  And the plane I think didn't hit at a straight perpendicular and was coming in at an angle.  Regardless, good post and great evidence and analysis, my perspective was way off.

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Posted 07 July 2012 - 04:47 PM

View PostThe New Richard Nixon, on 07 July 2012 - 04:31 PM, said:

So what size hole you call that?

Maybe you can correct me on the exact size of the hole. I estimate it to be about 15 m wide. If you look at it from straight above it looks like a square. The flight path is said to be 45 degree angle.

If the plane is as wide as a knife blade, it can go the diagonal, to get out on the other side. If it had any width at all (I believe it does) then it would need to fly an S in order to fit throught there.

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Posted 07 July 2012 - 04:51 PM

View PostbooNyzarC, on 07 July 2012 - 04:34 PM, said:

Then I suggest you use them to review this link.  :yes:

Yeah, shaterred windows and fires inside but the wall is still standing, duh. Are you saying it flew through the windows?





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