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#2926    Insaniac

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 09:32 PM

View Postskyeagle409, on 09 December 2012 - 09:08 PM, said:

What people? I have worked for the government for decades and would like to know who these people are, and what they are saying, but most of all, I want to see their evidence. I am trying to figure out why there are conspiracy folks who think that flying an airplane into the Pentagon will destroy a web of government records when such a web spans the country and extends around the globe.

Destroying your computer is not going to erase the email you sent to another computer.

It destroys your research, though. Why else would they send it into the pentagon?

I struggle to believe some poor Middle-Easterner's with box cutters had a 757. Probably because of it's unlikelyhood.

Bush on the other hand had access to many types of aircraft. Makes more sense for him to pull it off.

"He is wise in heart and mighty in strength. Who has hardened their heart against Him, and succeeded"? ~ Job 9:4

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 09:47 PM

View Postskyeagle409, on 09 December 2012 - 09:28 PM, said:

And such mistakes have caused millions of lives in the past.
Not from people who tell the truth, it doesn't. It's always deceitful Governments that cause these cluster****s.

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Truthers are guilty for spreading misinformation and disinformation and even outright lies and I can point them out in detail with facts and evidence.
Sounds like a case of the pot calling the kettle black, to me.

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Corrupt on not, there is no evidence of a 911 government conspiracy. As you mentioned, making mistakes is human, so in that respect, do you seriously think the government could have pulled off the 911 attacks and not get caught? All it would take is one simple mistake on the part of a participant and the whole wall will collapse.

Society has been poisoned with aspartame, mercury and fluroide, dumped into the water supply by God knows who. But the Government are being awfully quiet about it.

Is this not what Hitler had in his death camps, to make his slaves less likely to rise up and rebel?

The Government have gotten away with it because the vast majority of American's have been poisoned and dumbed-down over the last couple of generations, therefore less likely to rise up and start a revolution against the corrupt US Government.


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It has been over 11 years since the 911 attacks and yet, not one single  piece of evidence has ever surfaced implicating the U.S. government in the 911 attacks. How long did it take for the Watergate scandal to unravel?

True followers of truth have no interest in scandals, for they live for the truth, justice, freedom and liberty. Any 'Truther' that has had a hand in any scandal is probably paid-off by your Government to make actual followers of the truth look bad.

Thats my stance on it.

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 09:55 PM

View PostInsaniac, on 09 December 2012 - 09:32 PM, said:

It destroys your research, though. Why else would they send it into the pentagon?

Not to destroy evidence, that is for sure! Remember, bin Laden declared war the United States and it was no secret they planned to use aircraft as weapons.

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I struggle to believe some poor Middle-Easterner's with box cutters had a 757. Probably because of it's unlikelyhood.

Not difficult at all. After all, the aisles of an airliner are not that wide and one would only have to look at the commotion as people try to place their baggage in the overhead compartments. How many people would challenge a group of armed hijackers if they do not  fear imminent danger?

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Bush on the other hand had access to many types of aircraft. Makes more sense for him to pull it off.

The government acquired many  types of aircraft for many reasons however, those aircraft can be traced.

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 10:04 PM

View PostInsaniac, on 09 December 2012 - 09:47 PM, said:

Not from people who tell the truth, it doesn't. It's always deceitful Governments that cause these cluster****s.

You only have to go back to World War II to understand where similar mistakes have caused millions of lives. Should I mention Great Britain and France? Hitler's own mistakes on ignoring intelligence cost him battles and even  the war.

Sounds like a case of the pot calling the kettle black, to me.

Not when facts and evidence are stacked against 911 Truthers and I can point out the details as well using undenial facts and evidence.

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Society has been poisoned with aspartame, mercury and fluroide, dumped into the water supply by God knows who. But the Government are being awfully quiet about it.

And, who elected our government leaders to their positions?

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Is this not what Hitler had in his death camps, to make his slaves less likely to rise up and rebel?

The Government have gotten away with it because the vast majority of American's have been poisoned and dumbed-down over the last couple of generations, therefore less likely to rise up and start a revolution against the corrupt US Government.

Who continues to elect those same government officials during the elections?

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 10:17 PM

View Postskyeagle409, on 09 December 2012 - 08:09 PM, said:

Isnip

I dont have a time to debate you but be sure that if I would I would enjoy doing so.

@all
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About what I said. Use your brain. Those people were not nobody.

This is for you with ears. Bob Marley. To show you how Im thankfull that you people took your time to spread the truth.


Don't let them fool ya,
Or even try to school ya! Oh, no!
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So go to hell if what you're thinking is not right!
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Edited by the L, 09 December 2012 - 10:27 PM.

JFK: "And we are as a people, inherently and historically, opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths, and to secret proceedings.
For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy..."

#2931    Insaniac

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 10:28 PM

View Postskyeagle409, on 09 December 2012 - 09:55 PM, said:

Not to destroy evidence, that is for sure! Remember, bin Laden declared war the United States and it was no secret they planned to use aircraft as weapons.



Not difficult at all. After all, the aisles of an airliner are not that wide and one would only have to look at the commotion as people try to place their baggage in the overhead compartments. How many people would challenge a group of armed hijackers if they do not  fear imminent danger?



The government acquired many  types of aircraft for many reasons however, those aircraft can be traced.

Afraid you've put faith in lies of George Bush.

Do you seriously believe the stereotypical "hijackers, hijack plane" scenario? Has that ever happened, like, ever? Not in recent times.

What it boils down to is this:

The purpose of 9/11 was to get people like you to support a takeover of the Middle-East and scare you into giving up your civil rights. So far, it's worked because the American people are uneducated in the truth, naive, dumbed-down, and poisoned via chemicals in the water supplies.

Edited by Insaniac, 09 December 2012 - 10:29 PM.

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 10:39 PM

View Postskyeagle409, on 09 December 2012 - 10:04 PM, said:

Not when facts and evidence are stacked against 911 Truthers and I can point out the details as well using undenial facts and evidence.

Undeniable facts and evidence made up by those with a hand in covering-up the truth? Nothing is a "fact" that comes from wicked Government. It's truth mixed with lies.


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And, who elected our government leaders to their positions? Who continues to elect those same government officials during the elections?

I've never voted for a president as I've always seen through their facade, however if I had to give an answer, I'd say you and other people just as blind. We all need Jesus Christ and until we recieve Him, we'll live blind until God opens our eyes.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 01:01 AM

View Postthe L, on 09 December 2012 - 10:17 PM, said:

I dont have a time to debate you but be sure that if I would I would enjoy doing so.

@all
Mark 4:9

About what I said. Use your brain. Those people were not nobody.

This is for you with ears. Bob Marley. To show you how Im thankfull that you people took your time to spread the truth.


Don't let them fool ya,
Or even try to school ya! Oh, no!
We've got a mind of our own,
So go to hell if what you're thinking is not right!
Love would never leave us alone,
A-yin the darkness there must come out to light.


Don't let them change ya, oh! -
Or even rearrange ya! Oh, no!
We've got a life to live.
They say: only - only -
only the fittest of the fittest shall survive -
Stay alive! Eh!


To let you know, I have had my share of major disagreements with the government, but I also know the US government was NOT involved in the 911 attacks. After all, American Airlines and United Airlines reported the loss of their aircraft and I have posted fleet histories as well to make a point the aircraft involved in the 911 attacks were owned by those airlines and not by the US government. Do you really think the airlines would ground their aircraft for up to a year in order for the government to illegally modify their aircraft for the purpose of killing thousands of its citizens as an excuse to go to war? That is taking silliness to the extreme. In addition, demolition experts with no ties to the government have confirmed that no explosives were responsible for the collapse of the WTC buildings.

Having worked in the field of aviation and the government for over 40 years, I've watched as conspiracist pulled things out of thin air that are on par with Hollywood fiction movies and nothing to do with facts nor anything to do with reality in the world of aviation, which is why I have said that 911 conspiracist have been watching too many Hollywood movies because what they say does not reflect reality in the real world of aviation.

I have read comments where the B-757 flew over the Pentagon and landed safely at the nearby airport. That is silly by the fact the air and ground controllers would have instantly taken notice, but it seems the 911 conspiracist didn't take that into an account because they are not tuned to the way things work in the world of air traffic control, and once again, because they have watched too many Hollywood action movies, many of which do not reflect reality by any means.

Edited by skyeagle409, 10 December 2012 - 01:28 AM.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 07:12 AM

View PostInsaniac, on 09 December 2012 - 10:39 PM, said:

Undeniable facts and evidence made up by those with a hand in covering-up the truth? Nothing is a "fact" that comes from wicked Government. It's truth mixed with lies.

No matter how wicked the government is, you still have to provide evidence to back your claims.

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I've never voted for a president as I've always seen through their facade, however if I had to give an answer, I'd say you and other people just as blind. We all need Jesus Christ and until we recieve Him, we'll live blind until God opens our eyes.

Facts and evidence on the 911 attacks speak for themselves. On one hand, 911 conspiracist have said this, but provided no evidence, and have said that, and provided no evidence, yet those who've backed the government's version of events have provided such evidence. Let's take some examples.

1. 911 conspiracist have claimed that United 175 carried a modified pod, but where is that pod they spoke of? Definitely not in the photos I have seen, but why would the government spend millions of dollars to acquire a B-767 and many months of engineering and technical planning, and labor in order to  to attach a modified pod to carry a single ton of explosives beneath the aircraft when they could have loaded over 15 tons of explosives in the lower cargo holds without modifying anything? In other words, it doesn't make any sense what they have claimed. Photos revealed no such modification.

2. 911 conspiracist have claimed that aircraft were switched n flight, but how do you switch airliners and not account for passengers and crew on the  other aircraft? But most of all, how can you switch flights and not draw attention from air traffic controllers and of the airlines? You can't switch them on the ground and not draw attention nor switch them in flight and not draw attention, so who was the person who fed such disinformation to the 911 conspiracist folks? Think about it!

Transcripts nor radar data depicted no such switch.

3. Some 811 conspiracist have claimed that American 77 flew over the Pentagon and landed at the nearby airport. What better way to draw unwanted attention from air traffic controllers than to have an airliner cut through air traffic and  land without authorization. How would the aircraft identify itself to ground controllers and not reveal itself as American 77?

Landing an aircraft in the markings of  American Airlines will draw attention from American Airlines  as well because there will be a demand for landing, gate/parking fees, not to mention a review of its flight plan will be on the order of the day as well. What better way to draw attention of a conspiracy than to fly an airliner into an international airport without authorization. A check of flight plan arrivals for the affected airport will blow the conspiracy whistle loud and clear.

It seems that 911 conspiracist don't think of those little things before they speak out.

Edited by skyeagle409, 10 December 2012 - 07:23 AM.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 03:57 PM

View PostInsaniac, on 09 December 2012 - 09:09 PM, said:

So they've made mistakes. We all do from time to time. It's called being "Human." Do you remember that?

Atleast 'Truthers' aren't resorting to lies and deceit like Bush.

Why is it so important to you, that you defend your corrupt Government?

Sky is rather like a person with impaired color vision--he is unable to perceive the mountains of evidence contradicting the official story just as a color impaired person is literally unable to perceive a particular color.


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Posted 10 December 2012 - 04:22 PM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 10 December 2012 - 03:57 PM, said:

Sky is rather like a person with impaired color vision--he is unable to perceive the mountains of evidence contradicting the official story just as a color impaired person is literally unable to perceive a particular color.

Gave me a light hearted chuckle, cheers.

Bush has even admitted 9/11 was an inside job. It's sheer insanity people would still say his coverup is the truth.

Bush admits to explosives in building, to "keep people from getting out."

Edit: Felt I should give 'thanks' to Babe Ruth.

Edited by Insaniac, 10 December 2012 - 04:23 PM.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 04:22 PM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 10 December 2012 - 03:57 PM, said:

Sky is rather like a person with impaired color vision--he is unable to perceive the mountains of evidence contradicting the official story just as a color impaired person is literally unable to perceive a particular color.

Speaking of impaired vision, you were the person who threw in nukes in the 911 attacks despite the fact no such evidence exist. You threw in  a P700 anti-ship missile in the attack on the Pentagon, and then, turn around and in the same breath, claimed that American 77 passed north of the gas station, and that, after claiming that no Boeing was involved!! :whistle:   Speaking of "impaired vision." I think it's time for you to see an optometrist. :yes:  

We should also take a look where you mentioned that explosives knocked down the light poles despite the fact the light poles depicted impact damage and nothing to do with explosives. :w00t:

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 04:26 PM

View PostInsaniac, on 10 December 2012 - 04:22 PM, said:

Gave me a light hearted chuckle.

Thing is, Bush has even admitted 9/11 was an inside job. It's sheer insanity people would still say his coverup is the truth.

Bush admits to explosives in building, to "keep people from getting out."

He didn't say a thing about the government placing explosives in the WTC buildings, he said, "OPERATIVES," referring to the terrorist. Review the video again and listen very closely to what he has said about "OPERATIVES."

What president is going to go on national camera and admit to placing explosives in the WTC buildings? That is another clear example of how 911 conspiracist have clouded up events surrounding the 911 attacks.

Edited by skyeagle409, 10 December 2012 - 04:30 PM.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 05:15 PM

I blame THE US GOVERNMENT ON 7/7 bombings, the Spanish terrorist attack, The Indian terrorist attack, and many others


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Posted 10 December 2012 - 05:58 PM

View PostInsaniac, on 10 December 2012 - 04:22 PM, said:

Bush has even admitted 9/11 was an inside job. It's sheer insanity people would still say his coverup is the truth.

Bush admits to explosives in building, to "keep people from getting out."

But you just said, "Nothing is a "fact" that comes from wicked Government. It's truth mixed with lies."  So I guess this is evidence that it wasn't an inside job, Bush is a liar, right?  Except when he says something that agrees with you, then of course he's truthful?

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