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#31    DONTEATUS

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 08:13 PM

View PostCoffey, on 06 July 2012 - 07:04 PM, said:

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Pretty impressive that the Jet fuel could produce such a clean cut.
Just stop it please ! And drink lots less Coffee Coffey ! What part of It was Jets that Hit the Towers Did you miss ?

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 08:17 PM

View PostCoffey, on 06 July 2012 - 07:38 PM, said:

I know drugs, i know them very well. I know drugs never cause that behaviour. Drugs do not cause any of the things the media blames them for. They only enhance things.

If you are happy and take them, then youa re in for a good time.

If you are paranoid and take them, welcome to hell.

If you are upset and take them, well call an ambulance.

If you are angry and take them, call soemone else and Ambulance.

Obviosuly it depends on certian drugs, but those are pretty much the common rules. Drugs are often blamed for creating the problem, when it is people who createthe problem, drugs just make them worse like alcohal.

In fact alcohal is worse than msot ilegal drugs. Yet we are allowed it.

but that's another subject, my point is the majority of people read these BS media stories related to drugs and don't know anything about them. (If you haven't done drugs or lived aorund them daily, then you can't know about them, scientists who show reports on them lie, as they are the same scientists working for companies who sell legal medical drugs)
I'm afraid I can't agree with you on this.  Take enough of the right kind of drugs, especially over a period spanning years (if not decades), and you're going to mess up your brain.  Taken in moderation, some drugs are only moderately harmful, similar to alcohol.



View PostCoffey, on 06 July 2012 - 07:38 PM, said:

I don't beleive Charlie Sheen went crazy becaus eof drugs, I beleive he went crazy and then tried to use drugs as an answer to it. Which leaves the question, why did he go crazy?
I still contend that his condition is self inflicted, from years and years of excessive substance abuse.



View PostCoffey, on 06 July 2012 - 07:38 PM, said:

too many people dismiss Charlie Sheen quesitoning 9/11 because he went crazy on drugs. kinda convenient isn't it? But what about Martin Sheen... Why would someone as rich and famous as hm, wiho is always busy... Still question it? I find that strange.
Perhaps you should be asking yourself why Martin Sheen isn't batshit crazy?

I don't have a problem with people questioning 9/11, whether they are famous or otherwise.  I expect and encourage people to question things if they aren't familiar with them or if they are under the impression that they've been given bunk answers.  But when those questions are adequately addressed, the matter should be settled to some degree.


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Posted 06 July 2012 - 09:08 PM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 06 July 2012 - 06:26 PM, said:

Whatever was captured by the camera, and it appears something was, it was NOT a 757 :no:

Well, of course!
What else would you say?? :whistle:
You are expert on 757 crash sites, and know they can't make craters in the ground unless they're supersonic.  So, forget that the passengers and crew were identified, as was the airplane...this cannot be a 757 slamming into the Pentagon!

I know I have understood your "logic", and your theory very well.

I just wonder, as another Babe Ruthism invades yet another 9-11 thread, if this can possibly be fun for you?

:blush: :no:

Edited by MID, 06 July 2012 - 09:08 PM.


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Posted 06 July 2012 - 10:37 PM

View Postskyeagle409, on 06 July 2012 - 07:27 PM, said:



Perhaps, you missed these photos before. The cuts were made by clean up crews.

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I'm curious. How do we know that both of those pics are of the same coulmn? And why are they cutting it at a slant instead of strait across?


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Posted 06 July 2012 - 10:39 PM

View PostW Tell, on 06 July 2012 - 10:37 PM, said:

I'm curious. How do we know that both of those pics are of the same coulmn? And why are they cutting it at a slant instead of strait across?
They don't have to be the same column.  Many of the columns were cut that way, and I believe that they were cut that way to control how they came down, much like notching a tree before felling it.


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Posted 06 July 2012 - 10:47 PM

View PostbooNyzarC, on 06 July 2012 - 10:39 PM, said:


They don't have to be the same column.  Many of the columns were cut that way, and I believe that they were cut that way to control how they came down, much like notching a tree before felling it.

Kinda what I thought.

All in all, I'm just curious. I've seen that photo posted as a rebuttal everytime the first photo gets posted.


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Posted 06 July 2012 - 10:50 PM

View PostW Tell, on 06 July 2012 - 10:47 PM, said:

Kinda what I thought.

All in all, I'm just curious. I've seen that photo posted as a rebuttal everytime the first photo gets posted.
You might also want to watch this video of some of the workers who were there and directly involved with this part of the clean up.



You can see a whole row of similarly cut columns in the vid.


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Posted 06 July 2012 - 10:51 PM

Call you reason...

If it was a "real" terrorist operation on the Pentagon, why they are hiding so many videos ?

To hide sensitive data about Pentagon's structure, protection, video-surveillance or something else ?

I don't think they don't have many videos just showing a plane crash.

If this event wasn't planned by government they would show videos proofs of the plane crashing into the Pentagon.

When you're telling the truth you hide proofs ? If they're hiding proofs on such a terrible event it's because they have an implication on it or they're very very stupid.

We have this poor gas station video but the others cameras (more than 80) show sensitive building informations ?

I think they lie.


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Posted 06 July 2012 - 10:54 PM

View PostKLOSR, on 06 July 2012 - 10:51 PM, said:

Call you reason...

If it was a "real" terrorist operation on the Pentagon, why they are hiding so many videos ?

To hide sensitive data about Pentagon's structure, protection, video-surveillance or something else ?

I don't think they don't have many videos just showing a plane crash.

If this event wasn't planned by government they would show videos proofs of the plane crashing into the Pentagon.

When you're telling the truth you hide proofs ? If they're hiding proofs on such a terrible event it's because they have an implication on it or they're very very stupid.

We have this poor gas station video but the others cameras (more than 80) show sensitive building informations ?

I think they lie.
Honestly, have you even bothered reviewing this?


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Posted 06 July 2012 - 11:03 PM

So if I correctly understood, they took long time to release videos not showing the impact. Why not to release them ASAP ?
Even if there are no proofs it would calm people saying that was planned.
And there are only 10+ videos showing something interesting but that's all ?


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Posted 06 July 2012 - 11:05 PM

View PostCoffey, on 06 July 2012 - 07:04 PM, said:

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Pretty impressive that the Jet fuel could produce such a clean cut.


Who said jet fuel produced this severed beam?

here is that beam?  When was theis photograph taken.   Where?

Anyone take into consideration  the tens of billions of pounds of force imparted on the structures by a 757/767 at cruise speed?

Have any idea what I'm talking about here?

Edited by MID, 06 July 2012 - 11:10 PM.


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Posted 06 July 2012 - 11:10 PM

View PostKLOSR, on 06 July 2012 - 11:03 PM, said:

So if I correctly understood, they took long time to release videos not showing the impact. Why not to release them ASAP ?
Even if there are no proofs it would calm people saying that was planned.
And there are only 10+ videos showing something interesting but that's all ?
Unless I'm mistaken, the footage was being held as possible evidence in the Moussaoui trial.  This type of action is common in legal matters.


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Posted 07 July 2012 - 01:36 AM

View Postlliqerty, on 06 July 2012 - 06:14 PM, said:

The Pentagon is 77 feet tall
Therefore I estimate that you can see about 308 feet in front of the building
The length of a Boeing 757 is 155 feet
308 + 155 = 463 feet

If the plane flies at 500 mph
it flies 0.139 miles per second
that is 733 feet per second
a camera typically takes at least 24 frames per second
it flies 30.5 feet per frame

463 divided by 30.5 = 15.1
According to my calculation the plane should be visible at least partially in as many as 15 frames

However, except for the very tip, the flying object does not appear in any pictures at all.

Who can explain this?



The camera was operating at 1 frame per sec.


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Posted 07 July 2012 - 01:45 AM

View PostPaul Rubino, on 07 July 2012 - 01:36 AM, said:

The camera was operating at 1 frame per sec.
Thanks Paul, I thought it was extremely low but I couldn't find a reference to the exact frame rate in the few minutes I spent.  Do you happen to have a link which confirms this?


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Posted 07 July 2012 - 03:43 AM

View PostPaul Rubino, on 07 July 2012 - 01:36 AM, said:

The camera was operating at 1 frame per sec.

Try buying a camera that take 1 frame per sec. but that is exactly what it would require. Government parking lot. No concern for security. Right.





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