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[DONTEATUS]

Well at least we can have a Great Cook out when they come to take us over !

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[TheMacGuffin]

DONTEATUS, on 20 July 2012 - 01:27 AM, said:

Well at least we can have a Great Cook out when they come to take us over !

This is a picture of Col. Korff, who is clearly a few french fries short of a Happy Meal.

[TheMacGuffin]

And what the hell is a Krav Maga instructor?  Anyway, Korff is being accused of impersonating one, as well as taking videos of himself in the shower and posting them on YouTube.

http://kalisanidiot.blogspot.com/


Now I recognize all too well that many people in Ufology have a shaky hold on reality, but Korff seems to set a whole new standard of nuttiness.

Edited by TheMacGuffin, 20 July 2012 - 02:35 AM.

[psyche101]

TheMacGuffin, on 19 July 2012 - 11:53 PM, said:

I can't claim to be an expert on 1947 teletype machines.  In her original version in 1973-74, Lydia Sleppy just made it sound like someone had tapped into it, and only many years later did she mention the FBI.  At this late date, in the absence of any records at all except this story she was telling for years, there's no way to know.

Kal Korff was the one who talked about the ringing bell and the switch, although from what I have heard about him, I'm surprised that he could even tie his shoes or get out of his own way.  I mean, literally.  Some people thought he was a CIA guy, but I have real questions about whether he could even walk and breathe at the time, much less walk and chew gum.  

I rarely say such things about anyone, but in Korff's case, well, that's just what I've heard.  I'm not sure that he knew what he was talking about at all, on any subject.  I don't think he could have hit his plate with a fork or found his way to the restroom.

What was that story about how he just flipped out completely and started pretending that he was an Israeli agent or something?  He was running around Europe insisting that everyone call him Captain Korff or Captain Crunch or some damn thing?

Well maybe, Korff did oust Mier, but I am not sure how hard that would have been to be perfectly honest. Whilst I am not an expert in the teletype machines of the era, I am proficient in communications installations, and Korff's sends/receive argument makes good sense. Still like that with many things today, even your email still uses a different part of your mail server to send and receive emails. And I think if his argument could have been challenged, it certainly would have been by now.

More than just the machine, Sleppy's account changes three times, and claims Johnny McBoyle gave her instructions and was present, yet he completely denies any such thing ever happening. With Karls comment earlier about Merel, Sleppy places her as being out of time in the same affidavit.

I just do not see Lydia Sleppy as strong evidence for the ET argument on the Roswell case.

[TheMacGuffin]

psyche101, on 20 July 2012 - 03:21 AM, said:

I just do not see Lydia Sleppy as strong evidence for the ET argument on the Roswell case.

I'm going to just skip over anything Korff says, no matter whether he's in the shower or not. LOL.




Or even if he's out on a classified operation somewhere. This was before he got "promoted" to colonel, of course.

Edited by TheMacGuffin, 20 July 2012 - 03:38 AM.

[TheMacGuffin]

It does sort of add a whole new meaning to Exposing the Truth, though, doesn't it?

[Jacques Terreur]

mcrom901, on 19 July 2012 - 04:28 PM, said:

"As the woman was typing the fantastic news item over the teletype to their other two stations, a line appeared in the middle of her text, tapped in from somewhere, with the official order, 'Do not continue this transmission!' "

uuuhm....sorry man, but i totally didn't get that. Why Wilhelm Reich?

[psyche101]

TheMacGuffin, on 20 July 2012 - 03:35 AM, said:

I'm going to just skip over anything Korff says, no matter whether he's in the shower or not. LOL.


Or even if he's out on a classified operation somewhere. This was before he got "promoted" to colonel, of course.

When I said "Karls" comment, I was referring to Karl, UM Member, and his post on Merle, sorry for any confusion.


Lydia has enough of her own discrepancies without worrying about Korff accusations. Johnny McBoyle being a main sticking point. He says her story is simply not true. But that is the problem with Roswell, for every ET witness, there is another who can counter a claim. Personally, I find Roswell pretty ordinary next to some other cases. It's an endless circle of he said she said.

[quillius]

Myles, on 19 July 2012 - 05:32 PM, said:

I don't believe that ex military is the same as being trustworthy.

The point isnt about trust its about what is claimed, I was highlighting that military/police/pilots etc do not make claims on bigfoot in comparison to that of UFO's/ET.

[Jacques Terreur]

quillius, on 20 July 2012 - 08:17 AM, said:

The point isnt about trust its about what is claimed, I was highlighting that military/police/pilots etc do not make claims on bigfoot in comparison to that of UFO's/ET.

Military People or Policemen might be better trained in observing stuff, given. But i guess what Myles refers to is that it happens a lot (e.g. in cheap TV documentaries) that mentioning this kind of profession is used to INSTANTLY give the claims of a witness credibility. A policeman can as well be just imagining stuff or misidentify something, just like the average joe.His/her rank doesn't necessarily make him a "better" witness.

[quillius]

Jacques Terreur, on 20 July 2012 - 09:15 AM, said:

Military People or Policemen might be better trained in observing stuff, given. But i guess what Myles refers to is that it happens a lot (e.g. in cheap TV documentaries) that mentioning this kind of profession is used to INSTANTLY give the claims of a witness credibility. A policeman can as well be just imagining stuff or misidentify something, just like the average joe.His/her rank doesn't necessarily make him a "better" witness.

Yes I dont doubt that and I wasnt using the examples as appeals to authority nor was I indicating they should be trusted, I was highlighting that the vast difference in the types of people who report bigfoot/pink unicorns etc versus those that indicate knowledge/belief in the ETH.

[Jacques Terreur]

hehehe, maybe one can draw the line between people who have regular drug screenings at work - or not!

[quillius]

Jacques Terreur, on 20 July 2012 - 10:39 AM, said:

hehehe, maybe one can draw the line between people who have regular drug screenings at work - or not!

if only the answer was as simple as that

[Myles]

Jacques Terreur, on 20 July 2012 - 09:15 AM, said:

Military People or Policemen might be better trained in observing stuff, given. But i guess what Myles refers to is that it happens a lot (e.g. in cheap TV documentaries) that mentioning this kind of profession is used to INSTANTLY give the claims of a witness credibility. A policeman can as well be just imagining stuff or misidentify something, just like the average joe.His/her rank doesn't necessarily make him a "better" witness.

You hit it on the head.   It bugs me when a profession is used for credibility.   Don't get me wrong, it does increase their credibility a little bit.   But without evidence, it is still just a persons story.

[quillius]

Myles, on 20 July 2012 - 11:37 AM, said:

You hit it on the head.   It bugs me when a profession is used for credibility.   Don't get me wrong, it does increase their credibility a little bit.   But without evidence, it is still just a persons story.

not really the point was missed to be honest. Its not about an appeal to authority, the initial question was why would they? and the comparison by me was that no ex military make claims of bigfoot at least no where near in the numbers they do about the ETH....

the question is a- why would the ex military all say this after retirement and b- how many do the same for bigfoot?

There is no argument about trust or validity of said claims, the appeal to authority is actually a strawman, however I would say this is accidently built due to misinterpretation of question.