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[quillius]

Myles, on 08 August 2012 - 02:49 PM, said:

I don't see it as obvious.

OBVIOUS - easily discovered, seen, or understood

hmm ?? are you suggesting the video is of someone else?

[Myles]

quillius, on 08 August 2012 - 02:52 PM, said:

hmm ?? are you suggesting the video is of someone else?

I think that if he did not exist in the first place, then the video could not be of someone else.   All we know is that the video is of someone.

[TheMacGuffin]

Myles, on 08 August 2012 - 04:45 PM, said:

I think that if he did not exist in the first place, then the video could not be of someone else.   All we know is that the video is of someone.

Do you mean that he might be a Pod Person or something like that?

[Myles]

TheMacGuffin, on 08 August 2012 - 05:57 PM, said:

Do you mean that he might be a Pod Person or something like that?

Not at all.    I mean that saying it is someone else is assuming you know who it was supposed to be in the first place.

[TheMacGuffin]

Myles, on 08 August 2012 - 08:10 PM, said:

Not at all. I mean that saying it is someone else is assuming you know who it was supposed to be in the first place.

I threw you a softball there, Myles, and you almost hit it.

[quillius]

Myles, on 08 August 2012 - 04:45 PM, said:

I think that if he did not exist in the first place, then the video could not be of someone else.   All we know is that the video is of someone.

Myles, on 08 August 2012 - 08:10 PM, said:

Not at all. I mean that saying it is someone else is assuming you know who it was supposed to be in the first place.

?? it was supposed to be John Maynard, which then means if he didnt exist then it cannot have been him in the video there it must have been someone else.

[HDesiato]

quillius, on 09 August 2012 - 09:13 AM, said:

?? it was supposed to be John Maynard, which then means if he didnt exist then it cannot have been him in the video there it must have been someone else.

Let's just assume that's his name. I think the point is: who is he?
He claims to be in a position of authority but does it mean conspiracy if we fail at research?
Because of this then this?

Edited by HDesiato, 09 August 2012 - 01:47 PM.

[quillius]

HDesiato, on 09 August 2012 - 01:23 PM, said:

Let's just assume that's his name. I think the point is: who is he?
He claims to be in a position of authority but does it mean conspiracy if we fail at research?
Because of this then this?

I dont believe that was the point Myles was trying to get across...

anyhow, the who is he? and where is he? are far more pertinent questions, I agree.

and no asking questions doesnt mean conspiracy at all....not that I think this was suggested.

[HDesiato]

quillius, on 10 August 2012 - 08:18 AM, said:

I dont believe that was the point Myles was trying to get across...

anyhow, the who is he? and where is he? are far more pertinent questions, I agree.

and no asking questions doesnt mean conspiracy at all....not that I think this was suggested.

Appologies to all, perhaps I am not following who said what to whom.

[Occams Razor]

Quote from White Unicorn:
The power to which you refer is part of the enviroment as well as the connection to the living person who also creates an active field that can magnify this residue and create different effects or reactions to it. It;s more than the sense of smell because this energy at times can bring physical manifestations. This other sense comes to you from  a subconscious level and its effects are somewhat like a hormone produced by fear, so its hard to control the reactions in yourself or the enviroment. I theorize that some occultists even try to tap this energy and control it.

I meant power in the literal sense. You can't have a "residual" electromagnetic field. A radio transmitter will generate an electromagnetic field whilst its power supply is being applied, turn it off and the electromagnetic field completely disappears, there is no residual electromagnetic energy. People may well generate an electromagnetic field whilst they are alive as we are bio-electric mechanisms powered by food and drink, fish and chips, coffee etc. But when we are dead there are no bio-electric functions going on, we don't eat or drink, there's no fuel to generate any electromagnetic field, no life, no field, residual or otherwise.

Quote from White Unicorn:
Actually, my search for explanations of certain aspects of different levels of consciousness has  lead me back to the "physical aliens" that were perceived as angels or messengers in ancient texts. I  try to translate from the original languages in order to get a better grip on what the original author was meaning without the belief in a religion or an alteration of translation. I was amazed at some of the astronomy and science contained in some ancient writings behind myths and mystical views.

Certainly some of the stuff written and painted in antiquity is interesting and indeed curios, but hardly proof.

Quote from White Unicorn:
Like TheMacGuffin, I know different intelligent species were and still are interacting with us both on a physical and even a mental level. I want to discover more of the reasons behind this phenomena. I wish that more was declassified so everyone could brainstorm freely and find the real answers faster without misinformation, but that's  the way it is.


And I just have to ask this: how on earth, no pun intended, do you "know different intelligent species were and still are interacting with us"?

Edited by Occams Razor, 25 August 2012 - 02:11 PM.

[Occams Razor]

DONTEATUS, on 07 August 2012 - 01:57 AM, said:

THis Maynard guy is just another Jason Borne kinda story Just a story !

Absolutely. Unfortunately the UFO scene is littered with these "I'm in the know, I used to be in military intelligence" types, some may have been in the military, some wish they had`been in the military, some probably wish they were intelligent. None can ever offer anything tangible, it's always "I was there, 'X' happened, it's all real, take my word for it". It's just the same as the "free energy" nutters, they all have these top secret power projects that can save the planet but they can't ever demonstrate them, there's never, ever, anything tangible. It's always just smoke and mirrors. Usually just more smoke.

Edited by Occams Razor, 25 August 2012 - 02:25 PM.

[DONTEATUS]

Occams Razor, on 25 August 2012 - 02:24 PM, said:

Absolutely. Unfortunately the UFO scene is littered with these "I'm in the know, I used to be in military intelligence" types, some may have been in the military, some wish they had`been in the military, some probably wish they were intelligent. None can ever offer anything tangible, it's always "I was there, 'X' happened, it's all real, take my word for it". It's just the same as the "free energy" nutters, they all have these top secret power projects that can save the planet but they can't ever demonstrate them, there's never, ever, anything tangible. It's always just smoke and mirrors. Usually just more smoke.

Its quite the problem trying to shift through all the reports,Even personal sightings. One thing is for sure true to form, We are Not Alone. Just look around theres Millions,even Billions of us !