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[Corp]

Vein Capital, on 04 September 2012 - 06:06 PM, said:

Roads enable commerce --> Commerce wears down the roads --> Therefore, roads are responsible for their own destruction, not the commerce ...

So why are businesses taxed to maintain the roads? Roads are an inherently failed system.

Roads are a failed system? I really hope you're just trolling right now or are tying to be funny.

Edited by Corp, 04 September 2012 - 08:08 PM.

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Corp, on 04 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

Roads are a failed system? I really hope you're just trolling right now or are tying to be funny.

We are in an economic recession which can only be attributable to the poor condition of the roads. Why then have we given huge corporate bailouts with money that should have gone to improve roads & bridges ?

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Vein Capital, on 04 September 2012 - 10:51 PM, said:

We are in an economic recession which can only be attributable to the poor condition of the roads. Why then have we given huge corporate bailouts with money that should have gone to improve roads & bridges ?

mostly because of the subsequent downturn half of those roads and bridges would not be needed. First you have to save whatever feeds people.

Now, whether they helped the right industries is a mater of debate.

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"During an interview with WWBT-TV, President Barack Obama said he regrets the “syntax” of his now-infamous “You Didn’t Build That” speech — but not the content.

“Obviously, I have regrets for my syntax,” said President Obama. ”But not for the point, because everyone who was there watching knows exactly what I was saying.”

Syntax, according to Dictionary.com, deals with the “formation of grammatical sentences in a language.” So in other words, Obama regrets they way he said it, but not what he said."

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tapirmusic, on 06 September 2012 - 06:41 PM, said:

"During an interview with WWBT-TV, President Barack Obama said he regrets the “syntax” of his now-infamous “You Didn’t Build That” speech — but not the content.

“Obviously, I have regrets for my syntax,” said President Obama. ”But not for the point, because everyone who was there watching knows exactly what I was saying.”

Syntax, according to Dictionary.com, deals with the “formation of grammatical sentences in a language.” So in other words, Obama regrets they way he said it, but not what he said."

Which means what exactly? Oh yea, you still didn't build that! He just didn't have his speechwriters phrase it for him in political jargon. He spoke straight from the socialist heart of ice he holds inside. Doesnt he know you can put lipstick on a socialist pig but it's still a socialist pig? I think he does.

[DieChecker]

http://www.thedailyb...build-that.html#

I like numbers 2 and 4 most. Think they are the funniest.

[DieChecker]

Some other funny ones I found:

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Is it for real, on 06 September 2012 - 06:49 PM, said:

Which means what exactly?

It means that Republicans have taken him out of context and continue to deliberately do so.

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Thanks tigg but I wasn't looking for an answer. I answered it myself.

[Tiggs]

Is it for real, on 06 September 2012 - 11:14 PM, said:

Thanks tigg but I wasn't looking for an answer.

Then don't ask a question.

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Tiggs, on 06 September 2012 - 11:04 PM, said:

It means that Republicans have taken him out of context and continue to deliberately do so.

tapirmusic, on 06 September 2012 - 06:41 PM, said:

Syntax, according to Dictionary.com, deals with the “formation of grammatical sentences in a language.” So in other words, Obama regrets they way he said it, but not what he said."

Everyone knows he meant what he said, which was a slightly different version of what "cherokee Nation" Warren said before him, which goes back a hundred or so years and is a democrat staple which boils down to class envy and the lie that "everything belongs to everyone"

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Tiggs, on 06 September 2012 - 11:04 PM, said:

It means that Republicans have taken him out of context and continue to deliberately do so.

Even looking at it in context, it is not a well thought out line. Even spinning it toward the best possible light, it is still offensively worded to anyone that has put their entire life into starting and expanding/growing a business.

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tapirmusic, on 07 September 2012 - 12:33 AM, said:

Everyone knows he meant what he said, which was a slightly different version of what "cherokee Nation" Warren said before him, which goes back a hundred or so years and is a democrat staple which boils down to class envy and the lie that "everything belongs to everyone"

Everyone?

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In speeches and videos, the Romney campaign has repeatedly distorted Obama's words. By plucking two sentences out of context, Romney twists the president's remarks and ignores their real meaning.

The preceding sentences make clear that Obama was talking about the importance of government-provided infrastructure and education to the success of private businesses.

Romney also conveniently ignores Obama's clear summary of his message, that "the point is ... that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together."

By leaving out the "individual initiative" reference, Romney and his supporters have misled viewers and given a false impression.

- PolitiFact

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Ryan, like Romney and scores of Republicans in recent weeks, has used comments Obama made at July 13 campaign appearance in Virginia against him. But the rhetorical jab takes Obama out of context. Republicans have seized on only part of Obama's quote — "If you've got a business, you didn't build that" — but the full quote makes clear Obama is talking about the conditions that help businesses and individuals succeed, such as teachers and infrastructure.

- The Associated Press Fact Check

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There’s no question Obama inartfully phrased those two sentences, but it’s clear from the context what the president was talking about. He spoke of government — including government-funded education, infrastructure and research — assisting businesses to make what he called “this unbelievable American system that we have.”

In summary, he said: “The point is … that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together.”

- FactCheck.org

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Obama certainly could take from lessons from Warren or Roosevelt on how to frame this argument in a way that is less susceptible for quote-snipping. And Romney certainly could answer Obama’s argument by engaging in a serious discussion about whether the wealthy should pay much more in taxes as a matter of social good and equity. That would be grounds for an elevated, interesting and important debate.

But instead, by focusing on one ill-phrased sentence, Romney and his campaign have decided to pretend that Obama is talking about something different — and then further extrapolated it so that it becomes ridiculous. That’s not very original at all.

Three Pinocchios

- The Fact Checker, Washington Post


So that's basically everyone as long as your definition of everyone is no serious fact checking journalist in the world. Or Democrats. Or people that aren't screamingly Republican.

Edited by Tiggs, 07 September 2012 - 01:40 AM.

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DieChecker, on 07 September 2012 - 01:37 AM, said:

Even looking at it in context, it is not a well thought out line. Even spinning it toward the best possible light, it is still offensively worded to anyone that has put their entire life into starting and expanding/growing a business.

How many Directors in diapers do you know, exactly?